Trofeo Sud for sale £27,995

Started by Evan Bottcher, June 05, 2013, 08:40:13 PM

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Evan Bottcher

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Sheldon McIntosh

Love the battle scars.  Looks like fun.

aggie57

Its great to look at isnt it and those series 1 Sud Ti's are very hard to find regardless of the history.  But GBP28k is one heck of a lot of dosh and there is no mention of whether it actually runs, if there is any of the dreaded rust (the Trofea cars were standard Sud Ti's until they got the go faster bits), or such like.

But good luck to them.  Its probably the one and only chance to buy one of these.
Alister
14 Alfa's since 1977. 
Currently 1973 GTV 2000, 2020 911 C2S MT, 2021 Mercedes GLE350, 2023 Polestar 2 LRDM
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Evan Bottcher

Even if I could afford it - what would you do with it?  I don't think it'd be suitable for any historic classes?
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Paul Gulliver

Quotewhat would you do with it?

1. Mount a very serious campaign for the AROCOA Vic  R 1 Sprint series championship.

2. Lend it to Ray Pignataro so he could finally beat his wife Susan in a sprint.

3. Just show up and annoy Frank Musco.

Geez Evan, I haven't even put my mind to it . This is only scratching the surface.
Paul Gulliver
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2017 Silver Giulia Veloce
1979 Silver Alfa 116 GTV Twin Spark
1973 Red Alfa 105 2.0 GTV

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1989 White Alfa 164
2000 156

Evan Bottcher

Nice one Mr Gulliver.  However if it's original I don't think they were actually *that* quick - built for a parity series rather than to compete with other makes.  I'd expect a good 1.7 motor to make more power, and it'd be a shame to modify a historic race car just to compete...  I could be wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZOJ0-dcPCQ

Throwing money at the problem might be the way to finally beat Frank though.  Maybe.
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aggie57

Probably best to equate it to buying any classic car rather than looking at it as a serious competition tool.
Alister
14 Alfa's since 1977. 
Currently 1973 GTV 2000, 2020 911 C2S MT, 2021 Mercedes GLE350, 2023 Polestar 2 LRDM
Gone......far too many to list

Sheldon McIntosh

Quote from: Evan Bottcher on June 06, 2013, 11:36:35 PM
However if it's original I don't think they were actually *that* quick

122bhp and 820kg would go alright though, certainly enough to have loads of fun.  Were the engine internals modified at all?  It would probably qualify for Group C wouldn't it?  Or do they have to have actually competed in Group C contemporaneously to be eligible for historics?  It might be able to keep a Gemini honest......

Ray Pignataro


Frank Musco

If 122hp is correct, I'd say that car would be kind of fast, considering my car has 97hp. It wouldn't be keeping Gemini's??? honest, it would be keeping GTV's honest...

Paul Gulliver

#10
QuoteThanks for the support Paul,
Sorry Ray, gratuitous & uncalled for. But I know how you must feel sometimes. I can't play tennis ,squash or golf against my wife. So I'm not lending her the Alfetta anytime soon.
Paul Gulliver
Present
2017 Silver Giulia Veloce
1979 Silver Alfa 116 GTV Twin Spark
1973 Red Alfa 105 2.0 GTV

Past
2013 Giulietta QV
2006 Black 159 2.2 J
1970 Dutch Blue Series 2 1750
1975 Blue Alfetta Sedan 1.8
1981 Piper Yellow Alfetta GTV 2000
1985 Red Alfetta GTV2.0
1989 White Alfa 164
2000 156

Evan Bottcher

Quote from: Frank Musco on June 09, 2013, 12:06:05 AM
If 122hp is correct, I'd say that car would be kind of fast, considering my car has 97hp. It wouldn't be keeping Gemini's??? honest, it would be keeping GTV's honest...

With you behind the wheel perhaps  :)
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pep105

Quote from: Frank Musco on June 09, 2013, 12:06:05 AM
If 122hp is correct, I'd say that car would be kind of fast, considering my car has 97hp. It wouldn't be keeping Gemini's??? honest, it would be keeping GTV's honest...

I reckon so Zio Frank, Alfetta GTVs with 10520 cams had 122hp and were at least 200
kg heavier.

That Sud would be a hoot to drive

Must be a bloody powerful Gemini then, maybe with a Calibra turbo donk swapped in
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Evan Bottcher

Quote from: Frank Musco on June 09, 2013, 12:06:05 AM
If 122hp is correct, I'd say that car would be kind of fast, considering my car has 97hp. It wouldn't be keeping Gemini's??? honest, it would be keeping GTV's honest...

Frank your car has 97hp at the wheels?  That'd be somewhere 110-120 at the flywheel, am I right?

Yeah okay so it'd be quick-ish, but still an oddball in historic racing.

Quote from: Sheldon McIntosh on June 07, 2013, 03:46:26 PM
It would probably qualify for Group C wouldn't it?  Or do they have to have actually competed in Group C contemporaneously to be eligible for historics?
I think to qualify for Group C you need an original Group C logbook (someone will correct me here).  Ray Gulson ran a Sud at Bathurst in Group C as we've discussed here before - that would be an interesting option if you could find the chassis and logbook.  The tail end of the Group C field at the Island this year looks like they were lapping 2.06-2.07, so I guess you'd find someone to play with.

Or just build up a Sud with no history, and beat the snot out of it in club sprints... speaking of which, I can't wait for next weekend!
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'68 1750 GTV
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Frank Musco

Quote from: Evan Bottcher on June 09, 2013, 08:55:30 PM
Or just build up a Sud with no history, and beat the snot out of it in club sprints... speaking of which, I can't wait for next weekend!

Evan, I couldn't agree more. It would be awesome to see a Replica of a Trofeo Sud at club sprints.