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Sheldon McIntosh

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Alfa 90's rule
« on: March 17, 2006, 05:53:57 PM »
Yeah, 90's rule!!!!!     Styling has dated well, still a beautiful car, sooooooo luxurious, light and fast etc etc.

And it's got a removable briefcase.  Which of course I use every day.

C'mon 75 fans, what's so great about your not quite as pretty cars?  And don't get me started on 164's.  However if someone has a manual 164 which they wanna swap for a 90 i'll listen.  Just for a laugh obviously.  But if you have a manual 164 my number is 040..........


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Re: Alfa 90's rule
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2006, 10:42:31 PM »
I actually don't mind Robin's Alfa 90 Supertaxi - it's lowered sufficiently and looks mean enough to take seriously.

I also think the 90s looks are coming back into vogue - maybe it's going to be a key classic car for the year 2010?

If anyone has one going spare they want to get rid of give me a call - I'm looking for a cheap tow car.
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Re: Alfa 90's rule
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2006, 09:06:08 PM »
There's one on carsales.com.au for $2000 which looks okay.  It's been on there for about 6 months so he's probably open to neg.  Bugger the tow car, turn it into your race car and tow it with the sud!

Ps, Does anyone have a cheap sud or 33 they wanna get rid of?  Or preferably an alfetta gtv 2.0?  Might get myself a race car after seeing how much fun everyone is having at Winton.

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Re: Alfa 90's rule
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2006, 11:32:25 PM »
Not cheap but a very tidy Alfetta GTV 2.0 on EBay

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Re: Alfa 90's rule
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2006, 08:51:14 PM »
Very nice, but out of my price range for a project.   seen a nice one for $2100, not gonna say where, and if anyone else buys it before I raise the cash I'll kill them!!

If anyone has ideas for an alfetta gtv club car, please send them my way.  I don't know original weight and power figures (but I can guess, and am just about to research same)  but 900 kg and 180bhp would be nice for starters.

Can you get a reliable 180 out of these engines? I don't wanna go to a twin spark.

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Re: Alfa 90's rule
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2006, 08:00:02 PM »
hmmm, seemed like a good idea at the time.

Thanks for the info

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Re: Alfa 90's rule
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2006, 12:55:20 PM »
You will be spending quite a lot of money if you want it to be 900kg, and 180hp.
A standard car weighs about 1150kg.

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If anyone has ideas for an alfetta gtv club car, please send them my way.  I don't know original weight and power figures (but I can guess, and am just about to research same)  but 900 kg and 180bhp would be nice for starters.

Can you get a reliable 180 out of these engines? I don't wanna go to a twin spark.

If you want a good balance between reliability and performance, then the twinspark is the better option.  You will probably spend less buying and installing a twinspark than upgrading the carby engine to make the power, and instead of putting lots of money into an engine that will be pretty much undrivable on the road, you can have a nice smooth twinspark, which can also be upgraded to make more power, and you retain the driveability of the car and reliability.

You won't make 180hp on a twinspark with it's stock single throttle intake and still retain its drivability, it will run like a dog down low. Then you have to start looking at multi butterfly intakes , Motecs and valves, cams etc. All of a sudden an older single plug unit is a viable proposition again.
The twinspark is the best STOCK engine available, but once you start to chase a bit more go each step is more involved and expensive in a twinspark. Ultimately in a t/spark there may be a 4 or5  HP advantage in the better combustion shape (but disadvantage of less working valve area) but at a cost of more dollars and more weight. For the same specs; comp, cam timing, induction, exhaust etc, you can't tell from dyno results which is a t/spark and which is the "old" engine.

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Re: Alfa 90's rule
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2006, 12:26:52 AM »
Hi Vin,
there is a bloke on the internet selling Twin Sparks from Italy. he claims the Italian Police used T/S in their cars and reckons they got over 170HP just by changing the chip, it this possible?

I have a couple of T/S engines. I want to put one into my GTV. What is the realistic max power I can expect for a road car with only head mods ?
When you say multi butterfy intakes, do you actually mean a seperate full sized throttle for each cylinder?, what happens to the plenium in this case?

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Re: Alfa 90's rule
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2007, 09:01:28 PM »
You will be spending quite a lot of money if you want it to be 900kg, and 180hp.
A standard car weighs about 1150kg.

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If anyone has ideas for an alfetta gtv club car, please send them my way.  I don't know original weight and power figures (but I can guess, and am just about to research same)  but 900 kg and 180bhp would be nice for starters.

Can you get a reliable 180 out of these engines? I don't wanna go to a twin spark.

If you want a good balance between reliability and performance, then the twinspark is the better option.  You will probably spend less buying and installing a twinspark than upgrading the carby engine to make the power, and instead of putting lots of money into an engine that will be pretty much undrivable on the road, you can have a nice smooth twinspark, which can also be upgraded to make more power, and you retain the driveability of the car and reliability.

I hope you didn't listen to these idiots - the Grp S spec is the way to go and probably exceeds your original spec.  Probably 190hp and 950 kgs.  You were right on the money to start with.
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Re: Alfa 90's rule
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2007, 09:35:25 PM »
Like the idiot said "You will be spending quite a lot of money"  ;D
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Re: Alfa 90's rule
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2007, 09:37:29 PM »
Hmmm, it'll be fun getting Ironsides down to 950kg ::) ::)


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Re: Alfa 90's rule
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2007, 08:28:18 AM »
Hmmm, it'll be fun getting Ironsides down to 950kg ::) ::)



Fiberglassides doesn't quite have the same ring to it ;D
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Re: Alfa 90's rule
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2007, 08:43:35 AM »
Carbon/Kevlar-sides maybe...
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