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Technical => 116 Series (Alfetta Sedan/GT/GTV & Giulietta Sedan) => Topic started by: marinoci on June 04, 2012, 10:48:36 PM

Title: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: marinoci on June 04, 2012, 10:48:36 PM
I am looking for some Simmons rims for my gtv6. Does anyone know if these fit OK on my car without any mods to car. Size I have come across is 16x8 but my current 16x7 Alfa front rims come very close to the guard when turning.
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: BradGTV on June 05, 2012, 05:10:57 PM
depends on offset and tire size, ive hade 17x8's on my gtv no issue
are u still interested in mine? please let me know, as id like to advertise them if not...
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: marinoci on June 05, 2012, 06:34:16 PM
Brett yes of course still want them.
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: marinoci on June 05, 2012, 06:37:04 PM
Brad sorry :-)
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: John A Pucak on June 05, 2012, 07:12:04 PM
I have a set of 17x7.5 simmons on my 85 Alfetta, and they seem to work, even though I get constant critisism from fellow VRA members. I think you should look at your tyre dimensions . I have a set of 215x40 P7s and they have a rolling diameter close to the original 195x60s
John
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: martym00se72 on June 05, 2012, 10:57:26 PM
I have managed to shoe horn in a set of 17x8 with 225/45 rubber. Tight fit. But it is the offset that matters most - mine are ET35. And there is SFA clearance, but they fit... and that is what counts  ;D
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: BradGTV on June 06, 2012, 05:53:51 AM
marty and john, any chance of putting up a pic of your cars?
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: Ian Morris on June 07, 2012, 10:56:27 PM
I have 16 x 8 Simmons with 225 x 45 x 16 tyres on my bitumen rally car. It is lowered very slightly (25mm) and has 28mm torsion bars.
The rears are fine. The fronts touch the guards at the front very often when turning and other places very occasionally. I just beat the guard lips back into place and don't worry about the paint. It doesn't worry me. It might not be ideal for a pristine road car.
I'm always looking for 16 x 8 as that is my prefered competition wheel / tyre combination.
I you don't want them, PM me with the details and I will buy them.
Regards
Ian
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: martym00se72 on June 11, 2012, 10:16:51 PM
Hi Brad - old piccy but gives you a bit of an idea...
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: Storm_X on June 11, 2012, 10:46:35 PM
Quote from: martym00se72 on June 11, 2012, 10:16:51 PM
Hi Brad - old piccy but gives you a bit of an idea...
I've seen this car around before.
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: BradGTV on June 12, 2012, 09:27:13 PM
nice wheels. pretty similar to my wheels, anyone know off hand what these wheels are off (156?) and their offset?
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: Storm_X on June 12, 2012, 09:56:37 PM
Arnt they the same. ?  And i thought there where 156 turismo wheels.
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: Anthony Miller on June 13, 2012, 01:25:28 PM
Brad's look like GT wheels, 156/147 Update TI have finer spokes
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: martym00se72 on June 13, 2012, 11:11:24 PM
Mine are OZ Racing Superturismo - guy I bought them from had them on a 156 or 159 (can't recall) in NSW.

Storm - if you live in the Nth East Adelaide you probably see me around a bit and I go out to Mallala when I can (spectate only), go on club runs etc.

I get plenty of compliments on the wheels - I think they really suit the style of the car - totally changes the look of the car from standard wheels.  ;D
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: Storm_X on June 14, 2012, 09:57:35 AM
Quote from: martym00se72 on June 13, 2012, 11:11:24 PM
Mine are OZ Racing Superturismo - guy I bought them from had them on a 156 or 159 (can't recall) in NSW.

Storm - if you live in the Nth East Adelaide you probably see me around a bit and I go out to Mallala when I can (spectate only), go on club runs etc.

I get plenty of compliments on the wheels - I think they really suit the style of the car - totally changes the look of the car from standard wheels.  ;D

Last time I seen it was rundle street, I go to mallala also but I watch the drifting.
You taking your car to Alfas in clover ?
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: Tristan Atkins on June 14, 2012, 05:02:05 PM
My GTV has 16 x 8 Simmons, unsure of offset.

I had to roll the guards to that they cleared. Rear dedion also has some slight camber.

(http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/tt142/Tristan1337/DSC_0013-2-1.jpg)

(http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/tt142/Tristan1337/DSC_0012-2-1.jpg)

Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: Storm_X on June 14, 2012, 07:37:45 PM
very clean car, would look better with a lowering.
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: Tristan Atkins on June 15, 2012, 10:49:13 AM
I would love too but the roll center just does not agree :(
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: Andrew Bose on June 15, 2012, 04:46:37 PM

I believe Vin Sharp does ball joints to change the roll centre, perhaps someone on here has used them or is more knowledgeable about them, or try him at Pace engineering the details are on the sponsors page.
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: shane wescott on June 17, 2012, 08:16:22 PM
I have simmons b45's, not sure on size but I believe my car has no mods to guards etc.
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: marinoci on June 18, 2012, 10:56:50 PM
Hi Shane and Tristan, what size tires are you running?
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: Tristan Atkins on June 19, 2012, 07:49:36 AM
225 x 45 x 16.
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: John A Pucak on June 19, 2012, 07:15:29 PM
I have had 235x45x17 on the rear with no problem, and that on standard car with lower pace springs
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: marinoci on June 28, 2012, 12:48:53 PM
Does anyone know if there are any issues running big brakes with Simmons rims? Looking to fit rx7 4pot or Volvo 4 pot calipers with 164 rotors.
thanks Marino
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on June 28, 2012, 04:07:26 PM
I've got Volvo 4-pots and 164 discs on mine, and run 15x7 Simmons with no problems.
Title: Re: will 16x8 Simmons fit ok on a 1985 gtv6
Post by: Storm_X on June 28, 2012, 07:46:40 PM
I will post up some pIcs this weekend when I upgrade my brakes to Alfa 75 brakes, with my b45s on my giulietta. If anyone is interested in some 17x7 4x98 wheels let me know, painted professionally in any colour of your choice 2pac automotive paint.