Hello all
We are now providing ECU programming services, not tuning boxes, not cheap factory file but editing of your actual ECU program.
engine warranted, safe but impressive increases in performance
If interested drop me a line and I will provide details
hi there,
this is not to get you on the wrong foot to start with, but how about introduce yourself first, tell us about what you do and ur cars, i figure you dont have an Alfa and are more interested in making sales, so contact one of the committee and chuck in some $$$ to sponsor the club then im sure they will even put a little ad on their site for you.
Its better this way then just busting on and trying to sell your items.
And welcome I hope you get some custom, can you put a list up of all the Alfa's your gear is compatable with also.
Thanks Dehne
Hi Dehne,
Apologies if I have broken a rule here. Not I have not mentioned my company name, if you google APTUNING, you may find a company but it is not mine, you should find a lot of contributions to a number of car forums though. Point is I am not "getting my name out there" but simply contributing.
I tune ECU's in a number of different types of vehicles and when I do cars it is mostly european vehicles, I spend about 2-3hrs a day on forums answering peoples questions on ECU tuning and I am yet to make a sale from that but I do it because I am passionate about it.
When it is done properly, it is safe and totally changes the driving experience. The problem is most opt for the cheap tuning box option or some dodgy fly by nighter who flashes on some random factory file. I did an Alfa on the weekend and just thought -there is a forum I am not contributing to. So bring on the questions happy to discuss. If i actually make a sale from it would be a first and I would very happily become a sponsor
Apologies again here to make a positive contribution not upset
I will get that list up for you soon, there are a number - surprisingly I do very few Alfa Romeo's as they map up very well
Cheers
here's a contribution. It's ALFA Romeo... not exactly encouraging when pushing the idea you know how to program the bosch motronic ECU in ALFAs when you can't spell it. >:(
:P ;D
Well that blows all the credibility! Hope my programming is better Post edited accrodingly TY
Needless to say any questions on the topic happy to answer just can not guarantee spelling - cheers
Can you do The Fiat/Lancia Weber IAW ecu's?
Do you custom tune cars on a dyno or have preprogramed maps or what?
whats an approximate price for a 2ltr 156 twinspark worth to remap
First response to Dehne's post
The models we can do
145(II), 146(II), 147, 156, 156 (II), 159, 166, 166(II), Brera, GT,GTV, Giuiletta, MiTo, Spider
post 2001 most can be programmed via OBD port, that is to say we read the program (10min), go away and modify the program based on interview about what is required - previous mods etc, return and install the program (10min ).
Pre 2001 some require is a bit of a mix some still OBD some require chip change some can not be done.
Steve S
I will be happy to be corrected here but I believe IAW weber ECU's have a self tuning function already, if what I read is correct then this is a very good unit which enables you to play around yourself. Just be careful using as it may allow you to go over safe levels. If you do not have this function it appears there are readers that will allow it - would be interested to see how you go if you get one it is the first time I have come across one and if they work as they say they would be hard to beat.
We provide a ECU editing service of the original factory ECU optimising it to match your use, simpler in cars than say trucks where the variation on use and environment is greater. Net result it is the original file put back on the car with a few lines of code changed. This means no conflicts ( lights on dash etc ) and remote chance of detection for cars still under warrantee.
Dehne, For forum members I can offer a 25% discount but before we get to far down price levels what year is your car.
Quote from: APTUNING on January 11, 2012, 04:04:26 PMpost 2001 most can be programmed via OBD port, that is to say we read the program (10min), go away and modify the program based on interview about what is required - previous mods etc, return and install the program (10min ).
So it's not based on dyno feedback for torque at each individual rev and load point, air fuel ratio's and knock, but a conversation about what other changes have been made?
Could you remap a Motronic 4.1 for a 1990 75 3 litre V6 based on my list of stuff? It's fitted with a Vortech supercharger running about 10psi, water to air intercooler, water injection and 440cc/min injectors.
it is a 1999 mdl 156 2.0 twin spark selespeed,
Duk, correct it is not based off a dyno, we believe we can tune the car safely within the engine specs, the interview would certainly cover what additional modifications you have made to the vehicle and our programmer will adjust accordingly. We also take into account the age and typical use of the car. We warrant your engine after our tune so will not tune as aggressively as perhaps some people would like. So if we are tuning for the maximum we can warrant for what is the point of the dyno? Yes you can potentially get more from the engine but at what cost? Now if you are racing and are expecting a reduced engine life then dyno tuning makes sense.
I will investigate what we can do for your vehicle but first pass it might be too old at the very least it would be a chip change, happy to be corrected but i think computer chips from that era can be read but not written to. Your modifications can certainly be taken into account.
Dehne - it would be an interesting one to try and read, if we can not then it would be a chip change being 99 much more confident that can be done
Dehne b4 tune power 166bhp after 178min b4 tune torque 206Nm after 222min
Quote from: Duk on January 11, 2012, 06:49:35 PMDuk, correct it is not based off a dyno, we believe we can tune the car safely within the engine specs, the interview would certainly cover what additional modifications you have made to the vehicle and our programmer will adjust accordingly. We also take into account the age and typical use of the car. We warrant your engine after our tune so will not tune as aggressively as perhaps some people would like. So if we are tuning for the maximum we can warrant for what is the point of the dyno? Yes you can potentially get more from the engine but at what cost? Now if you are racing and are expecting a reduced engine life then dyno tuning makes sense.
You make some very ambitious claims to fame here :o.
I think I'll be sticking with tuning my engine. Tuning it via feedback from data logging with my wide band air/fuel ratio meter and my ears. A dyno will be used to get the best, safe ignition tuning once road tuning is near enough complete.
Thank sounds more than fair to me. We offer a service but it would be arrogant to think we had the best solution and only solution.
Happy tuning!
Quote from: Roger Carr on January 11, 2012, 06:12:49 PM
I will investigate what we can do for your vehicle but first pass it might be too old at the very least it would be a chip change, happy to be corrected but i think computer chips from that era can be read but not written to.
EPROMs have been around for a very long time, and are far more common in older ECUs than OTP ROMs.
The ML4.1 does use a socketed EPROM (27c256) for storing both the program and calibration, which can be re-written after UV erasing.
Replacing with an EEPROM or flash chip saves some time if you're developing a tune and trying different things.
Agree - given the computer chips are fairly cheap and it's a relatively easy to replace that would be my default. However this is only because I am not up with this UV erasing. Festy is it just a UV light or some pulse thing? Is there any potential impact on other components? Finally is there somewhere i could read up on it?
Cheers
It's just exposure to a specific wavelength of UV light - see Wikipedia's page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPROM for some background, it usually takes about 15 minutes to erase one with the correct light source.
I don't own a UV eraser (I usually replace EPROMs with flash chips which can be electronically erased) but when I do need to UV erase an old chip, I sit them on my bench and fire up my TIG welder next to them for 30 seconds ;)
There shouldn't be anything else in an ECU that could be damaged by UV exposure, but the EPROM will be socketed so you might as well pull it out to erase. You'll have to peel the sticker off the chip's window too, as that's there to prevent accidental erasure.
But with flash ICs costing under $5, your best bet would be to keep the original EPROM as a backup and copy it's data onto flash for tuning.