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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Evan Bottcher on September 20, 2007, 11:14:23 PM

Poll
Question: I think Sheldon should get some yellow and red flames painted/stuck onto Ironsides, what do you think?
Option 1: Hell yeah that would make her a sweet ride! votes: 10
Option 2: Yeah allright I suppose votes: 1
Option 3: Hmm - it's a bit lame votes: 0
Option 4: No way loser! votes: 0
Title: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Evan Bottcher on September 20, 2007, 11:14:23 PM
(http://www.sdpics.com/store_files/store_images/8000~Motor_Sport/9000~Cars/05~Car_Club_Track_Days/48~8_September_2007_-_Alfa_Romeo_Owners_Club_of_Australia/4~Red_Group/MQ0Y6174.jpg)
(http://www.sdpics.com/store_files/store_images/8000~Motor_Sport/9000~Cars/05~Car_Club_Track_Days/48~8_September_2007_-_Alfa_Romeo_Owners_Club_of_Australia/4~Red_Group/MQ0Y6175.jpg)

I was thinking something like this (from http://www.tricked-graphics.com)
(http://www.tricked-graphics.com/images/ii_1013.gif)
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Scott Farquharson on September 21, 2007, 08:33:10 AM
oh, look i am so on this it is not funny....YES, gotta do it.

I can't believe it has taken us this long to think of it.......great work Evan.
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: alfagtv58 on September 21, 2007, 09:32:45 AM
Maybe Evan can put these flames on the Sud, and Scott you could put them on Blue thunder.....then we create a new class that is not based on lap times but how "fully sick" the car looks. ;D
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on September 24, 2007, 09:33:28 PM
Hmmm, not sure about this.  Could look pretty sweet, like the attached pic, or could end up looking s**t.  Any photoshop wizards out there?

The other thing is, I'd have to clean the car first!  Maybe Scott and Evan can clean it for me?
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on September 24, 2007, 09:35:28 PM
some pics for photoshop wizards.......
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on September 24, 2007, 09:47:25 PM
Yep, Ironsides was built for comfort, not speed.

Following lyrics courtesy Spinal Tap.  Quite appropriate, and quite shouldn't be read by impressionable persons.

The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'
That's what I said
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand
Or so I have read

My baby fits me like a flesh tuxedo
I'd like to sink her with my pink torpedo

Big bottom, big bottom
Talk about bum cakes, my girl's got 'em
Big bottom drive me out of my mind
How could I leave this behind?

I met her on Monday, twas my lucky bun day
You know what I mean
I love her each weekday, each velvety cheek day
You know what I mean

My love gun's loaded and she's in my sights
Big game is waiting there inside her tights, yeah

Big bottom, big bottom
Talk about mud flaps, my girl's got 'em
Big bottom drive me out of my mind
How could I leave this behind?
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Scott Farquharson on September 24, 2007, 09:52:20 PM
Pimp my ride....
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Stephen Aarons on September 24, 2007, 10:38:05 PM
So Sheldon, is this kinda like what you had in mind? ???
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on September 24, 2007, 11:04:06 PM
very nice, I could be convinced.......

Would this be the first ever Alfa with a flamejob?
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Stephen Aarons on September 24, 2007, 11:09:07 PM
that wouldn't surprise me. but i must say it isn't a bad look.   not that i would ever do that to my car.
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Scott Farquharson on September 24, 2007, 11:28:05 PM
Yeah, that is awesome...do it!
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Stephen Aarons on September 25, 2007, 08:35:47 PM
if there is anyone else who wants to see what their car would look like with a flame job, just send me a side pic of it, and ill get it done asap.
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: alfagtv58 on September 26, 2007, 08:41:42 AM
Quote from: Stephen Aarons on September 25, 2007, 08:35:47 PM
if there is anyone else who wants to see what their car would look like with a flame job, just send me a side pic of it, and ill get it done asap.

C'mon Evan....you know you want to  ;D
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Scott Farquharson on September 26, 2007, 03:01:59 PM
A Sud with flames - cool......

Maybe we just get some spray cans and masking tape and do it ourselves........
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Fast Eddie on September 26, 2007, 03:28:28 PM
How about some nice dark clouds with lightning bolts for the "Blue Thunder" then Scott :D
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: nerineandgary on September 26, 2007, 03:59:13 PM
I feel at this time that I should weigh in to the argument. SHELDON DON'T DO IT!. It is your Alfa duty to restore old ironsides to it's former glory if you are going to do anything. I would like to see it with a new (grey) paint job, new or restored trim, a detailed engine bay and spotless underbody including all running gear. If I  can offer some advice, it is better to remove all doors bonnet and boot lid when you are doing a Sunday detail of door jams etc etc.  Polish (and your time) is cheap. So don't be misled by school boy opinion, you are above all that, being as you are a respected and revered Editor of an important publication. Do you use a brief case?
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Colin Byrne on September 26, 2007, 04:31:45 PM
I understand where your coming from Gary, I really do, but when your' looking at  a car you have to weigh up the originality vs performance.  This vehicle is undeniable a thoroughbred track machine and we are talking about a performance modification here.  I'm sure if this type of technology was available to alfa at the time I have no doubt that flames would have been a factory option
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: alfagtv58 on September 26, 2007, 04:40:57 PM
Quote from: Gary Pearce on September 26, 2007, 03:59:13 PM
So don't be misled by school boy opinion, you are above all that,

Sheldon isnt above that......go on Sheldon, what are you...chicken ;D
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Victor Lee on September 26, 2007, 05:54:46 PM
Paint it yellow!  We need another yello Alfa on the track!! (that's yello, not custard, Jim)

Then we'll put chequed black and white squares down the side and borrow a taxi sign!  Yellow on briefcase optional.
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on September 26, 2007, 07:04:54 PM
Thanks Gary, nice to have some sensible (or was that sarcastic, hard to tell in text) comment on this thread.

I know what you're saying.  I (against all of my better judgement) actually love my 90, and 90's in general.  I think they're a (reasonably) good looking car, and exceptionally well engineered, and perfect for their intended market. 

HOWEVER, Ironsides has been crashed, and the engine bay metal is slightly bent, which thankfully hasn't affected driving at all.  It would need pulling to get it straight.  I managed to eventually bolt some panels on but the shutlines are 80's Aston Martin quality.  I toyed with the idea of getting it fixed properly, but at the time was thinking I should buy another Alfa as a track car, or whether to buy another 90/164 as a road car, and turn Ironsides into a track car, and forget about fixing the metal.  Lo and behold, a beautiful blue 90 came up for sale and I got it for a bargain price. 

The blue 90 is in better condition than than Ironsides ever was, and has low kms and owners.  Hence, the blue 90 (I need a name) will be treated well, and restored to her former glory.  One day she may even be worth something!

Ironsides will be gutted and turned into one mean-ass stripped-out track b*tch.  24V one day!

Gary, I prefer a mix of schoolboy on the weekends, respected and revered editor during the week!  Cheers for the comments, I notice you haven't voted in the negative though!
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on September 26, 2007, 09:29:17 PM
QuoteThis vehicle is undeniable a thoroughbred track machine and we are talking about a performance modification here
sic

So true, so true.

The only thing that worries me is the added weight from the stickers/paint.  Any ideas gratefully accepted.  I was thinking of taking out the aircon, cutting out the spare wheel well, maybe replacing the windows with lexan.....    All good ideas.

Some fool suggested I take out the briefcase, but that's just ridiculous.  Then where would I put my cosmetics, razors, hairdryers/products/straighteners/curlers etc. Someone even suggested taking the slab out of the boot, but you should see how much she rolls when it's not there.  I might stick an ocky strap around it next time though, I broke a couple of bottles last time out.
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Evan Bottcher on September 27, 2007, 07:45:07 AM
Quote from: Colin Byrne on September 26, 2007, 04:31:45 PM
I'm sure if this type of technology was available to alfa at the time I have no doubt that flames would have been a factory option

I'm pretty sure that the Autodelta ITC and DTM Alfa 90s in their day had enormous flame jobs, and huge eagles airbrushed on the bonnets, and a big sticker on the back reading "This is Alfa country... on a still day you can hear the Mercedes rusting.".  This was a crucial element in their strategy at the Nurburgring!
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Gary Pearce on September 27, 2007, 10:03:38 AM
I've got the solution to save weight Sheldon. The Hot Rod guys have it. There is a kit available that you can buy that pipes a little bit of fuel down the sides.......and ignites it. There you go real flames! And I think that's what Evan was reffering to with the enormous flames coming out of them in the 90's
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Scott Farquharson on September 27, 2007, 11:52:58 AM
Quote from: Sheldon Mcintosh on September 26, 2007, 07:04:54 PM
Thanks Gary, nice to have some sensible (or was that sarcastic, hard to tell in text) comment on this thread.

I know what you're saying.  I (against all of my better judgement) actually love my 90, and 90's in general.  I think they're a (reasonably) good looking car, and exceptionally well engineered, and perfect for their intended market. 

HOWEVER, Ironsides has been crashed, and the engine bay metal is slightly bent, which thankfully hasn't affected driving at all.  It would need pulling to get it straight.  I managed to eventually bolt some panels on but the shutlines are 80's Aston Martin quality.  I toyed with the idea of getting it fixed properly, but at the time was thinking I should buy another Alfa as a track car, or whether to buy another 90/164 as a road car, and turn Ironsides into a track car, and forget about fixing the metal.  Lo and behold, a beautiful blue 90 came up for sale and I got it for a bargain price. 

The blue 90 is in better condition than than Ironsides ever was, and has low kms and owners.  Hence, the blue 90 (I need a name) will be treated well, and restored to her former glory.  One day she may even be worth something!

Ironsides will be gutted and turned into one mean-ass stripped-out track b*tch.  24V one day!

Gary, I prefer a mix of schoolboy on the weekends, respected and revered editor during the week!  Cheers for the comments, I notice you haven't voted in the negative though!

I hadn't thought of ironsides as a resto prospect - i like the "mean-ass stripped-out track b*tch" idea though - particularly the 24v v6......nothing beats the scream of the 24v - when?

Oh, and yes, do the flames....
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Evan Bottcher on September 28, 2007, 12:09:06 PM
(http://www.airbrushing-made-easy.com/Airbrush_E-Book4_600X600.jpg)
Title: Re: Should Ironsides get flames?
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on September 28, 2007, 03:18:57 PM
Quotenothing beats the scream of the 24v - when?

Well since I'm a Kiwi and don't get the whole footy thing, I thought maybe 2.30pm tomorrow I'll go round to a certain address in Toorak and jack a certain Mello Yello racecar with a nice 24v while the streets are empty.

You guys can keep a secret yeah?

Evan - what do you mean "average"?