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Title: WTB 105 Berlina 2ltr bottom end
Post by: Datso on May 24, 2011, 10:49:41 AM
Would like to buy 2000cc bottom end from a 105 series or Berlina prefer in Victoria.
Pm me for price and location if you have something to offer.
regards, Dave
Title: Re: 105 2ltr bottom end WTB
Post by: Davidm1600 on May 24, 2011, 11:27:05 AM
Hi Dave, just so you know, the 105 Alfa covers not just the GTV in all variants, but as well the Giulia, Berlina and Spider ;D

So a 2L GTV, Berlina and Spider motor are exactly the same.  While the Alfetta 1.8 and 2.0L 116 motors are essentially the same as the 105, there are some minor differences so that a straight swap is not possible with out making some changes, but it can be done.
Title: Re: 105 2ltr bottom end WTB
Post by: Datso on May 24, 2011, 09:31:01 PM
Sorry and thank you for the corrections
Im after the engines fitted to the with a gearbox
so will need the spigot on the crank.
This would be the 105 gt coupes and berlinas I suppose.
Title: Re: WTB 105 Berlina 2ltr bottom end
Post by: Datso on May 26, 2011, 09:33:25 PM
A bare block and crank will do
Title: Re: WTB 105 Berlina 2ltr bottom end
Post by: aggie57 on May 27, 2011, 07:47:27 AM
For what you're doing and the work you plan on doing an Alfetta bottom end is just as good. Better material, many more of them around in good nick and that spigot location hole can be easily machined into the crank. 
Title: Re: WTB 105 Berlina 2ltr bottom end
Post by: Datso on May 27, 2011, 09:30:34 PM
Seems like the way but do you know how much the crank mod will cost?
Apparently it needs a fair bit of time to setup properly for the drilling and
its quite hard material to work with.
Title: Re: WTB 105 Berlina 2ltr bottom end
Post by: Nick Shardey on May 27, 2011, 10:08:06 PM
Just call Vin Sharp 9844.0147 he can do it easily, he's also a nice guy to chat to about your plans.

Buy what ever 2L you like, take out the crank and ask him to fix it; you will need to swap your sump and oil pump over though.

Good luck

Shards
Title: Re: WTB 105 Berlina 2ltr bottom end
Post by: njh1964 on May 27, 2011, 11:04:31 PM
Quote from: Datso on May 26, 2011, 09:33:25 PM
A bare block and crank will do

Hi Datso,

Last time I was there, Centre Road Wreckers in Springvale http://www.autowreckers.com.au/Home/Home.asp (http://www.autowreckers.com.au/Home/Home.asp) had a couple of Nord engined 116 Alfas which, although they had been picked pretty clean, still had blocks and probably the cranks in place. Might be worth a look.

Regards,


Nick
Title: Re: WTB 105 Berlina 2ltr bottom end
Post by: Datso on May 28, 2011, 02:55:36 PM
thank you! I was going there soon as the bottom ends can be had for under 100aud.
I hope the 116 cranks are as good or as stressed as the early 105 ones as I feel there could
be more stress on the cranks that run the prop-shaft to the transaxle compared to a conventional
5 speed. The weight of the prop shaft has to be considered I thought on the crank at different
rpms where I thought it causes some kind of stress that leads to the cracked crankshafts
being more common on these models and gtv? can anyone confirm if my thinking if failed.

I know the clutch has some give but conventional gearboxes act as a stress reliever before
the connection to the tail/prop shafts. A good insulated balancer crank pulley would help on
the other end from torsional stress.