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Technical => 116 Series (Alfetta Sedan/GT/GTV & Giulietta Sedan) => Topic started by: minipete on November 15, 2010, 04:59:58 PM

Title: 83 Giulietta Harmonic Balancer
Post by: minipete on November 15, 2010, 04:59:58 PM
The harmonic balancer on my Giulietta has got a bit of a wobble up.  The rubber is on the way out.

I'd like a new or reconditioned one if possible.

I have contacted Foleys, Turin Imports and Milano Spares and no one has a new balancer.

Can anyone point me in the direction of someone who might have one?

I have read in the archives that there are aftermarket balancers, that sounds Ok but where do you get them? 

Pete
Title: Re: 83 Giulietta Harmonic Balancer
Post by: Barry Edmunds on November 16, 2010, 09:39:21 PM
Peter
Where are you located?
Suggest you try Hugh Harrison @ Monza Motors in Bayswater 03 9739 9946, or
Bruno at Maranello Pursang in Brunswick 03 9380 9650

Title: Re: 83 Giulietta Harmonic Balancer
Post by: minipete on November 16, 2010, 10:59:15 PM
I am in Sydney but I am happy to try anyone.  Thanks for the tips.

Pete
Title: Re: 83 Giulietta Harmonic Balancer
Post by: Barry Edmunds on November 17, 2010, 09:55:19 AM
Pete

You could try Tony McKone out west of Sydney on 4577 5144 or Rob Panetta at Manning Motors. Don't have Rob's tel number.
Title: Re: 83 Giulietta Harmonic Balancer
Post by: minipete on November 17, 2010, 03:42:59 PM
I spoke to Tony and he said 1.8's with AC had a solid pulleys.  Mine is the odd one out (I've had since it was almost new).  I have 2 spare engines with solid pulleys so will use one of those.  I wondered why my query was met with stoney silence, you must have thought I was mad.

Pete
Title: Re: 83 Giulietta Harmonic Balancer
Post by: minipete on November 17, 2010, 03:59:51 PM
Does anyone have a clever way of stopping the engine from spinning so I can get the pulley nut undone?

I have it in gear with the handbrake on and it just winds the donuts up, that can't be good for them.

Manual says to pull the starter and lock the flywheel which seems my only option unless someone has come up with a better (easier) way.

Pete
Title: Re: 83 Giulietta Harmonic Balancer
Post by: Barry Edmunds on November 18, 2010, 08:53:20 AM
Pete
Not sure if it is clever or not but a rattle gun can help to loosen the pulley nut.
Usually helps if you have a second body to stand (heavily) on the brakes, with car in gear, while you swing off the end of your spanner or socket handle. I have seen some instances of a long extension being added to the spanner/socket handle to get extra leverage.
Some years ago an inventive soul made up a tool using a small section of ring gear welded to a piece of steel that could then be bolted to the motor and effectively lock the motor. This enabled pulley removal to be done by one person.
Removing the starter motor to access and lock ring gear is another method but still needs a second body to be effective.
Barry
Title: Re: 83 Giulietta Harmonic Balancer
Post by: aggie57 on November 18, 2010, 10:21:49 AM
Dont stress the donuts like that.  Do what the manual says and lock it through the starter area.
Title: Re: 83 Giulietta Harmonic Balancer
Post by: MD on November 18, 2010, 01:15:30 PM
minipete,
I have sent you an email.
Title: Re: 83 Giulietta Harmonic Balancer
Post by: minipete on November 18, 2010, 08:16:37 PM
It took me 2 1/2 hours to get the damn starter out.  A big fat screwdriver in the pinion gear and the balancer was off in no time.

There is so much beauty in the design and engineering of these cars yet some of it is awful.  I had to pull so many bits off the car just to do what should be a simple job.  I'm glad I wasn't paying someone $100/hr to do it.

Once the new seal and (solid) pulley are in place and everything is go again I am sure I will forgive it these indiscretions.

I will try to attach some photos of the pulleys in an attempt to prove I am not crazy.

Cheers
Pete
Title: Re: 83 Giulietta Harmonic Balancer
Post by: aggie57 on November 19, 2010, 04:24:07 AM
Imagine how annoyed you'd be if the donuts were damaged by trying the "alternative"!
Title: Re: 83 Giulietta Harmonic Balancer
Post by: minipete on November 19, 2010, 06:29:39 PM
I would never have tried it.

Pete