* VIN information added below.
* Photos sent. Please let me know if you have not received yours.
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* 1974 Silver / Black Interior - This car is the rolling chassis and is
> hideously rusty < but with 'all' parts. Last registration: [... ...]
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ALFA ROMEO 1600 GT
2/74 2206696
ALFA ROMEO MILAN ITALY
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* 1973 Red (Ochre Undercoat)/ Black Interior - This car is crashed;
> rolled twice <, but is 'complete'. Last registration: GTJ 105
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ALFA ROMEO 1.6 GT
3/73 2205452
ALFA ROMEO S.P.A. MILAN
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* Original Post:
I'm looking for offers for the whole lot or wrecking for parts. I am at NSW 2758.
More information will be added here once I produce notes/photos and as time permits. (VIN's, extras that are available, what's missing etc)
Reason for sale: No plans for their use. Moving to smaller home without the necessary space.
Description: Two GT Junior 105 both with 2L engines, complete*.
Background: I bought them at the same time, while they were registered and in full use years ago (1993); to create a single pristine and original example. I got within a final exterior spray of that goal and had an accident in it.
So, one car is now crashed badly but is 99% together. The other (the donor) is a rolling chassis with boxes and boxes of parts.
They have been kept undercover all these years but have been deteriorating over time, of course. Hopefully they will provide some needed parts for running cars.
Please email or post here with requests for information or photographs of particular things and I will do my best to accommodate. However, I will be posting photos regardless, as people from a NZ club have already been in touch with requests. (I am not an AROCA member anymore but for their club it was not necessary to do anymore than contact them, and they placed the ad for me.)
Hello there.
A personal message has been sent to your gmail account.
Kind regards.
Yep
PM sent.
Love to see some pics
Cheers
Hey there
PM Sent
Cheers
Pep
hi pep105 and Blue Flame. PM or Email sent to you all. (Henry too, yesterday)
I'm very happy there is still love for the 105's!
pep105, If you send me your email I can provide more than general shots of the cards. Once i can post at alfabb.com, I will be able to join in on the threads there.
Many trim components are in excellent condition. These cars have been protected during their long sleep since the accident over 15 years ago.
G'day,
PM sent with email address
Ohh yeah we love 105s!,
My GTJ is 4/74 2206797 so is a very close relative to your 74 model
Thanks
Cheers
Pep
Lots of parts left.
I've no indication to know what price to put on these as a set. Can someone please give an idea of what I should be asking for them?
Images are of a driver and passenger seat, and complete rear seat (will not include the chrome retention strips that screw to the car body)
Thanks in advance.
Hi, just answered the 'rear vision mirror' question again in a PM. There are two.
Also, the interior is all black and all GTJ; there is a professionally restored dash in perfect condition, and another which is sound but has a cracked skin in the common places.
Just to clarify, where I say 'rear vision mirror' above and that there are two, I don't mean side mirrors.
There is one internal rear view mirror per car - with bolts, that is advertised in the original post of this thread. Two cars, two internal mirrors. I wasn't talking about two side mirrors on one car :)
A little help please. Can someone please take a stab at the price for those seats?
Another request about mirrors came along, so here are some images. Neither car had a very good example but they would restore easily.
Hi
Sent You a PM
Thanks
Jon
Sorry, both full and complete engines/gearboxes are gone jon1750.
Lots of things left, mostly small items... Including a reskinned dash, emblem rubber mats, grill trim, gauges, lights, etc. Most all mentioned above, otherwise just ask for a specific thing. Bodies and engines gone but a lot left behind that I will need to get rid of eventually.
PM sent, Cheers, McAnnik
Answered PM's. Hopefully the last of this stuff will actually get into some cars, this next batch of time I put into it might be the last. Then again, the stuff could sit for a few more years, then Ill try again!
Someone is enquiring about the dash (dashes, this is about the reconditioned one). I will get more info into here, later, for the other items being asked about.
Sorry for pic quality as I did it with a phone cam in near dark conditions.
The dash skin is in near perfect condition and is fully fitted at the moment with gauges, lights and switches all in good condition. The silver surrounds are about the only blemish. Instruments are all Jaeger. (have a set of V Borletti too)
As usual, when I get asked for a part, and I have time, I photograph it and post it here.
Got 4 of these and all other door hardware from both cars, including 1 pair of small window frames - other than outside door handles of which I have only 3.
The remaining gauges. Vegli Borletti. Also have the loom with toggle switches, lamps, and lenses. The badly deteriorated dash still available.
Two Carello tail light housings in good nick. One lense in good nick shown in P1050463.JPG. The other lense is cracked, near the rectangular insert (lense not pictured below but belongs to back shown in P1050468.JPG)
Here are some other lights/lenses I decided to take pics of today. The Carello side lights are a mixed bag of not-much-good! Eberything else is good.
I have a near perfect set of 105 bumpers (never restored or repaired) to go with the number plate lights shown below. Over riders included in near perfect condition. The mounts for the bumpers and gaskets for all of the lights are here too - all in excellent condition.
As with most all of the things I had on the restored car, all chrome and metal was professionally polished, hence much of the bright stuff is still OK after nearly 20 years sitting in my shed.
Still on offer are one lone Carello headlight, and a Matched pair, all un-restored 08.480.700 type headlamps in good condition:
There are other shots somewhere or I could just photograph them again. (PM answered)
There is some interest in the lamps, should I put them on eBay with a bunch of better pics?
I had this in mind to do with the bumper bar set, since it is so good and nobody wants it here. The set of rubber floor/boot mats (everest) should go there too. I wouldn't be able to throw anymore of these cars out. The bodies and engines were a sorry sight going to the scrap metal dealer (person with highest offer)
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More about the lamps:
Unrestored originals.
The glass is not chipped or cracked. I inspected the pair and didn't even see any scratches on the glass. The brown coating on the back of each has some flakes missing and surface rust. Both of the pair have some deterioration of the silvering inside.
There are three stainless rims, two in very good condition where only one of them has one small dint in it. The third is a little rough and really too dirty for me to assess.
There are two headlight housings in good condition including most, if not all, screws and lugs.
Refer to other tail light pics above with this one, this is the cracked lens mentioned (only it's back is shown above):
ed. sorry for photo quality; night shot with torch!
Blinkers, rims, radio, wipers. Self explanatory (for those in PM and email requests). Anyone else interested in the open thread here please just ask.
Hi...
just sent you a pm re parts that I am chasing..
hope you can help out
yours
Michael B.
Headlamp tabs. Washer bottle motor.
Hi all, Now that a pic of that peculiar little Carello headlight tab is on the board,if anyone has interest in fitting modern 7" H4s into those cars so equipped with those tabs, I have devised a method where the H4s can be fitted into the headlamp bucket without damage to any standard Alfa fittings.If any interest i will start another thread describing how you can DIY.... Thanks for putting up the pic Cameron, no, it wasnt me who enquired. Cheers.........Ian
Nice idea Ian. Apologies to people that are midway in PMs with me about parts, I've been delayed over the last week and have managed to misplace the storage key too, so, nothing has been done. Will break the lock once I have a proper look for it and reckon it's gone.
Anyone want or know what the assorted things are on the bag, so I deal with them? I came across them looking for something today and I forget what any of it is; it has been so long.
The grab handles in the other pics show two that are plain rubber and one lone one that has some silver stripes inlaid into the rubber. Among them are two good switches, and two not-so-good insulator plates. The metal is very good and the spring action is as well, as to be expected. I bet they are hard to break at all!
The pic at the bottom of this message shows: Couple of good grilles and a couple bad ones. All are un-restored, so the good ones are not ever 'repaired' and have original rivets and clips. They would reshape easily except for the worst one. Brightwork 'good' or better.
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Some notes about the sale of these cars (now parts only):
Of course I keep getting asked for prices, which I rarely will ever give. The reasons are a few.
One; I don't think I am a good place to get a price from, this is not my hobby or car type anymore.
Two; it isn't an earner for me as what I want is to see this stuff back into the hands of people interested in the cars. Therefore I am reluctant to spend even more time looking at things I don't want to look at to find prices that I can't agree or disagree with unless they are $0 or $silly. ('silly' meaning massive $; sellers putting junked parts forward as if they are long lost treasure) There are a couple of items that I have done this with and I wish now that I had not bothered.
These reasons mean that I will accept an offer, if the interested person offers me an amount that I think proves the item is of some reasonable value to them.
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As I have said earlier, without the time and the right people to talk to, I ended up selling the bodies and engines of both cars to a scrap metal dealer. (Due to giving the highest offer. It was worth more to them than the available dealers and collectors I spoke to) So they were thrown in the skip with detritus such as old fencing including chicken wire and bent old star posts.
That was in the face of contacting a wrecker that is in the neighbouring suburb to me, on a few occasions where time and my interest allowed (during almost 20 years), owned by someone who is not only a club member but a NSW official, IIRC.
All because the market price was $0 from him, after deciding the worth of the cars was equal to his pick-up fee. "Take them away at no cost to me!" It is sad that this seems to indicate that dealers can't get enough, often enough from owners of these cars.