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Technical => 105/115 Series (105 Coupe/Spider/Berlina) => Topic started by: Stuart Thomson on December 07, 2009, 11:15:49 PM

Title: The project begins...
Post by: Stuart Thomson on December 07, 2009, 11:15:49 PM
Hi All,

After much hair pulling out etc. I have decided to chuck the Motronic FI on the Twinspark.

I found out from the AlfaBB that Suzuki GSXR750 throttle bodies are a good match to the Alfa intake.

So the project begins.

Here they are modified to fit the intake.  Essentially you disassemble them and space them out with some 12mm tubing, attach them to the intake by Silicon hose and clamps.  I have since replace the hose clamps with the ones the turbo guys use as they have a much higher clamping force.

Next is mounting and wiring of the Landrover V8 ignition coil set...

Cheers
Stuart

(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z247/rat156/Throttle%20bodies/ThrottleBodies.jpg)
Title: Re: The project begins...
Post by: Paul Gulliver on December 07, 2009, 11:19:18 PM
I don't suppose it is one of those projects that will be completed by  Philip Island this weekend???
Title: Re: The project begins...
Post by: Stuart Thomson on December 08, 2009, 07:58:45 AM
Hi Paul,

You don't suppose correctly.

Cheers
Stuart
Title: Re: The project begins...
Post by: alfagtv58 on December 08, 2009, 08:34:57 AM
Where did you source the TB's Stuart?  I have been toying with this idea for my 105.
Title: Re: The project begins...
Post by: Jekyll and Hyde on December 08, 2009, 09:56:32 PM
Quote from: Stuart Thomson on December 07, 2009, 11:15:49 PM
Hi All,

After much hair pulling out etc. I have decided to chuck the Motronic FI on the Twinspark.

I found out from the AlfaBB that Suzuki GSXR750 throttle bodies are a good match to the Alfa intake.

So the project begins.

Here they are modified to fit the intake.  Essentially you disassemble them and space them out with some 12mm tubing, attach them to the intake by Silicon hose and clamps.  I have since replace the hose clamps with the ones the turbo guys use as they have a much higher clamping force.

Next is mounting and wiring of the Landrover V8 ignition coil set...

Cheers
Stuart


Now that looks disturbingly familiar....  A bit after the fact, but normal hose clamps would have held them on fine, even under race conditions.  What year are those throttles, out of curiousity?  As 2001-2003(?) GSX-R 750 throttle bodies are 42mm ID at the exit (fully tapered from 50mm at the inlet), but later ones are smaller...

Quote from: Phil Baskett on December 08, 2009, 08:34:57 AM
Where did you source the TB's Stuart?  I have been toying with this idea for my 105.

The best option is to look on Ebay in the US.  Australian wreckers want silly money for them, but I think I've paid under $200 per set (GSXR 750) on both occasions through Ebay US.

Title: Re: The project begins...
Post by: njh1964 on January 15, 2010, 02:13:22 PM
Hi Stuart,

Please keep the posts and pictures coming. Have you decided on which ECU you will go with in place of the Motronic? I'm also interested in going down this path, but I've heard it might be difficult to get the car road registered if I use an aftermarket ECU.

Cheers,


Nick
Title: Re: The project begins...
Post by: Stuart Thomson on February 03, 2010, 08:49:24 PM
Next installment.


Unseen in these photos


Cheers
Stuart
Title: Re: The project begins...
Post by: Colin Byrne on February 04, 2010, 08:40:29 PM
Looking good Stuart, Having fun with the wiring harness I see ;)
Are you going to run some kind of air box?, I reckon it's going to sound mean as with it setup like you have.

Any chance of doing a deal on the old intake support bracket? (my engine didn't come with one)
Title: Re: The project begins...
Post by: dehne on February 04, 2010, 08:52:13 PM
colin i think ive got 1 lying around you can have it  as ive moved up a couple of cylinders and or sparkplugs
Title: Re: The project begins...
Post by: Stuart Thomson on February 05, 2010, 10:09:56 AM
Hi Colin,
I'll bring the bracket on Wednesday, if I remember.

Cheers
stuart
Title: Re: The project begins...
Post by: Colin Byrne on February 05, 2010, 05:25:34 PM
Thanks heaps guys, Stuart unfortunately I'm in Sweden this month for work so I'll grab it off you when I get back if that's ok
Title: Re: The project begins...
Post by: Paul Gulliver on February 07, 2010, 11:36:09 AM
Stuart,

You have probably seen this thread on Alfa BB but just in case.

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/engine-conversions/59967-105-twinspark.html

The gallery on the conversion looks like it is also an excellent reference source.

http://picasaweb.google.ca/alfadave/AlfaTwinSparkFuelInjectionConversion#

Hoping you can see the light at the end of the  tunnel.

Gully
Title: Re: The project begins...
Post by: BradGTV on March 20, 2011, 09:37:24 AM
any updates on this project?
is it running yet?
am about to do the same to my 2.0 nord
cheers, Brad