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Technical => 900 Series (Alfasud, Alfasud Sprint, 33) => Topic started by: Andiroid on July 25, 2009, 11:15:55 PM

Title: 33 Air Filter Hoses....What do they do?
Post by: Andiroid on July 25, 2009, 11:15:55 PM
Hi, I'm loving the process of doing up my new toy, but I have something that is nagging at me.

On top the air filter there are 2 outlets (or inlets) that don't have hoses on them. I have seen pictures of other cars with the hoses on. Can anyone tell me what they are and what they do. Should the hoses be on or off?

Thanks!
Andrew
Title: Re: 33 Air Filter Hoses....What do they do?
Post by: philpot on July 26, 2009, 12:09:32 AM
Greetings fellow Sud/33 owner!  The inlets on the top air cleaner cover of twin carby suds/33's take exhaust gases from valves on the exhaust manifolds back into the air cleaner/induction system. Basically an exhaust gas recirculation system; an Australian ADR emission add on. I think a lot of cars dont have them because a:  Would you like to breathe your own exhaust gas? I don't think so!; and b: Factory front exhaust replacements are almost impossible to find, those that have the popper valve inserts. Even if you can get them they are ridiculously expensive.  The aftermarket versions you get at your local exhaust centre (eg:Proex) dont have these probe brackets on the pipes at all. Hope this helps. Cheers, Phil.
Title: Re: 33 Air Filter Hoses....What do they do?
Post by: philpot on July 26, 2009, 12:28:15 AM
Oh, PS: Not a good idea to leave the inlet pipes open/unblocked. They inlet downstream of the air filter! Phil
Title: Re: 33 Air Filter Hoses....What do they do?
Post by: Sportscar Nut on July 26, 2009, 07:48:55 PM
105 HP ATW in a 81 Sud is awesome power. Do you have a 1.7 engine?? Standard 1.5 twin carbs produced 83 HP ATW from the factory. My 1.7 in an 83 Twin Carb Sud produces 99 HP ATW (Beninca dyno & Beninca engine rebuild).

Happy Boxer motoring.

Paul
Title: Re: 33 Air Filter Hoses....What do they do?
Post by: philpot on July 26, 2009, 09:53:33 PM
Brochure/flywheel/published specs to differentiate from 95 hp (not 'A.T.W.') Twin Carb Sud ti Aus Spec vs engine from 1985 33ti; 105hp (not 'A.T.W.')
Title: Re: 33 Air Filter Hoses....What do they do?
Post by: Andiroid on July 26, 2009, 10:35:53 PM
Thanks Phil for explaining all that!
Title: Re: 33 Air Filter Hoses....What do they do?
Post by: Sportscar Nut on July 27, 2009, 01:45:21 PM
Thanks Phil; you have the true Euro twin carb spec. Heads and cams differ to the Aust versions from memory.

Paul
Title: Re: 33 Air Filter Hoses....What do they do?
Post by: philpot on July 27, 2009, 07:26:10 PM
Glad to help. 'The Alfasud' by David Owen - A Collectors Guide- ISBN 0-947981-00-4, is a great source of info for anyone interested.

Cheers,

Phil.