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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ray Pignataro on June 14, 2009, 02:11:55 PM

Title: dyno day
Post by: Ray Pignataro on June 14, 2009, 02:11:55 PM
Any results from the dyno day. or photosof the same.
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: WilliamB1750 on June 14, 2009, 02:56:04 PM
Um I score for most smoke produced  :D  The Green 1750 for those that were there, I was late finishing work so I got there a bit late and left the camera at home, got a very bad video on the phone. The only thing that I have done to the car since I took posession a few weeks ago is a new set of plug leads so I was really happy that it didn't misfire under load and now I have a base line to work with.
Produced 79.4 hp (59.2kw) @ 4851rpm and 138.6 Nm @ 2233rpm

Cheers to all the friendly people I met.
William
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: Mat Francis on June 14, 2009, 05:54:55 PM
No photos sorry, but here's my sheet. 1.8L alfetta with a good set of extractors and 10548's. 96.7HP and 132Nm of torque. Waaaaaaaaay better than what i was expecting. I had a great time in general. again thanks to all involved.
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: shiny_car on June 15, 2009, 09:50:36 AM
unfortunately, i missed it because i was working (interstate). but i too am interested to hear of results. 'well done' (if that's the right thing to say!) to the above.

i have, however, recently had my V6 GT on the Beninca dyno, doing some before/after power runs, following some exhaust upgrades. the best i've had is 144.1kW at the wheels, and 238.6Nm. thought that was pretty decent; car has high flow cats, foam drop-in air filter, and rear muffler upgrades. next upgrade is equal length front pipes, then back to Beninca i think, for another run.

:)
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: John Hanslow on June 15, 2009, 12:36:21 PM
Thanks to all who participated and also those who assisted in BBQ matters, hosting and the running on the day.

The Dyno Days are always good and I look forward to the next one (hopefully not 2 years away).

We will have the results for you soon.

Did the 105 GTA get the highest output? 

Cheers.
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: Evan Bottcher on June 15, 2009, 10:58:45 PM
No photos but you have to be impressed by the enormous power generated by the Mighty Alfasud!

68.1hp @ 5950rpm  88.6Nb @ 4764rpm

Hmm - wondered why she felt a little poorly around Sandown.  I'm quite pleased really - still managed a reasonable time.  Off to Bruno's to find out where the rest of the horses went to...

I think the results will get published in the magazine next quarter...
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: luca on June 16, 2009, 06:50:07 PM
Are you guys up for organising a Dyno day with Dyno Dynamics?
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: Alfalfa on June 24, 2009, 12:26:56 AM
Hi all,
got a few videos from the day, I'll post them up.

I made 95HP (71.1kw) @ 5100rpm, but I lost the printout so I can't remember exact torque figure but I think it was around the 140 mark, definitely @ 2100rpm though.

Not bad, was hoping for maybe a little better considering the amount spent on my rebuild. But I question the accuracy of the dyno...how old is that thing??

Cheers,
           Christian


3 litre 75 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JiQ5LxSnCs
105 GTAM- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vpfwgEpHZk
Charlie's Delta Integrale- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5MDlY0Jp60
My baby- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uC-pU0icP0
Rx7-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbXHsQxCLZU
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: jimnielsen on June 24, 2009, 07:33:19 AM
Great videos, Christian - I enjoyed watching them. Thanks for going to the trouble of posting them.

cheers, jim.

Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: luca on June 24, 2009, 11:19:47 AM
That Delta looks a bit sick
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: david sammartino on June 24, 2009, 12:55:22 PM
Not bad, was hoping for maybe a little better considering the amount spent on my rebuild. But I question the accuracy of the dyno...how old is that thing??

on a side note i just couldnt let this comment pass.
is actually not that old. although me personally, i didnt think the way horsepower and kilowatts were measured actually changed in the past few years to warrant a new dyno. lmao as far as i know, could the measurements have changed and nobody told me???? is all good, although one must now go back and question the integrity of the rebuild, was it really worth rebuilding to achieve what any standard 200 000km + engine could make???

cheers

dave

p.s was a great day
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: Sportscar Nut on June 24, 2009, 01:55:49 PM
Pity I missed the Dyno Day at Beninca's but must say that their dyno is one of the most accurate and advanced in Australia. I know the time, effort and dollars that went building and installing the dyno and is apparently equal to anything Holden or Ford have (opinion of a mate who is an engineer at Holden).

Unfortunately you can't question the accuracy of the results - just the condition of the motor being tested! From experience, engine rebuilds and modifications do not always result in improved power!

Paul
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: GTAM1 on June 24, 2009, 03:11:41 PM
Hey guys,
A quick note of thanks to the organisers and Benincas for their time and ability to put a number of cars through the dyno so quickly with minimum fuss.
For interest sake my 105 (GTAM1) returned 126.5HP@6500 and peak torque was around 155nm@4500 and flat through to 6000. (I'll have to confirm the nm figure it's close to that my printout is not handy here at work).
Some fettling of the carbs and timing should liberate another 10 or so HP and some more with the removal of the fan (changing to thermo) and the fitting of an electric waterpump in place of the standard belt driven one.
When Vin @PACE built the engine street driveability was the focus. More 'aggressive' cams were considered for more power but driveability went out the window.
Cheers
 
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on July 16, 2009, 06:01:42 PM
Hi all.

I'm hoping to run a list of the dyno day figures in the next magazine.  The good news is that I have all the data from Beninca, and can hopefully reproduce any graphs.  The bad news is that I assumed Beninca were entering entrant/car data at the same time, but unfortunately they weren't.

So I have a list of all the data produced on the day, but no way of matching it with owner/car.  Hence, I have given a list here of all the peak hp figures, and the approximate time (going off the data, don't know how accurate the clock is) they were produced, and the few cars that I know of.

So, if you recognise your hp figure could you please send me a PM or email to let me know your name/your car/any mods.  Also, if there is anyone there that you think might not read this forum, could you please pass on this message to them.

Please send emails to editor@alfaclubvic.org.au, or send a PM here.  No need to reply to this post.


HP         Time

202         10.41      ?? - 156GTA
97.2         10.49
68.1         10.57      Evan - Alfasud
98.3         11.04
109.0         11.11
104.7         11.18
181.4         11.25
160.4         11.31
157.4         11.37
126.5         11.43      ??- GTAM
99.2         11.47
129.9         11.51         John - Giulietta TS
95.3         11.55
79.4         11.59      William B - 1750 105
78.0         12.03
65.4         12.06
96.7         12.10      Mat -  Alfetta 1.8
152.9         12.14
110.4         12.17
192.7         12.22
106.6         12.27
110.5         12.32         Paul G - GTV TS
122.3         12.35
124.7         12.45
108.5         12.54
87.7         1.00
89.0         1.03           Paul G - 105 2000
59.5         1.51
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: jimnielsen on August 05, 2009, 05:33:36 PM
Had my own 'dyno day' at Beninca's today!
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on August 05, 2009, 05:47:23 PM
No excuses now Jim!!

Does anyone else have any info from Dyno Day that they want to send me please, I've only had a few replies, it's not going to make for much of an article in the magazine at the moment.

Mat, which one is Jimmy's?

David Sammartino, you seemed to know a lot of the guys there whose names I don't know, would you be able to pass the message along to them?

I've updated the list on page 1 with what I have so far.

Cheers
Sheldon
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: Jimmy Gray on August 05, 2009, 07:02:40 PM
I think i can answer that.

65.4HP (48.8kw) and 98.5 Nm and a cleansing, healthy puff of smoke.

Recently discovered the fuel relay is dodgey and the fuel pump cut out every few seconds :-\ might explain why the graph looked like a 2yo's drawing  :)
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on August 05, 2009, 07:08:54 PM
Thanks Jimmy.  Sorry, didn't realise you were part of this forum.  Time to get an Alfa maybe?
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: Mat Francis on August 05, 2009, 07:13:09 PM
Heh, you shoulda heard what came out of his mouth the other night after a few beers...  ;) ;D
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: Jimmy Gray on August 05, 2009, 07:31:00 PM
Yeah mate, if anything major happens to the lil white beast.........GTV6 ::)
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: Simon Aarons on August 05, 2009, 10:51:50 PM
Just buy a GTV6... nothing has to happen to the BMW except selling it!
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: Jekyll and Hyde on August 06, 2009, 08:40:10 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on August 05, 2009, 07:31:00 PM
Yeah mate, if anything major happens to the lil white beast.........GTV6 ::)

We can arrange this.......
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: stustustu123 on August 15, 2009, 09:32:45 PM
Hi there!

The 160.4 is mine (Black 1992 164Q) & the 157.4 belongs to the Red 164Q that followed me (spoke to the owner but have forgotten his name!).

Was a great day - thanks so much for the effort you guys put in organising everything.  Looking forward to attending some more AROC events soon.

Cheers,
Stu.
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: Domenic on August 17, 2009, 07:52:06 PM

My 75 3ltr
152.9 hp @ 12.14pm

My 75 TS
122.3 hp @ 12.35pm

Regards
Domenic
Title: Re: dyno day
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on August 18, 2009, 09:25:27 PM
Thanks guys.  Last call for any claimants, putting finishing touches on magazine this week.

Cheers
Sheldon