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Technical => 105/115 Series (105 Coupe/Spider/Berlina) => Topic started by: Ash Gordon on March 22, 2009, 07:18:37 PM

Title: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: Ash Gordon on March 22, 2009, 07:18:37 PM
Hi,

Finally started some work on car today, the easy bits to start with ...
Taking a few photos so I know how it all fits back together, including wiring for brake lights etc..
Found some large "flakes" of bog in behind the bumper, underneath there's plenty of surface rust but no holes...  the metal work is quite bumpy so presuming it from previous accident damage and has been beaten back into near enough shape, then bogged to within and inch of it's life.. Bog is quite thick in some areas, which will take some removing..

Here's a few photos of before and progress shots.. ( apologies for the quality of some shots )




Title: Re: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: Ash Gordon on March 22, 2009, 07:20:00 PM
and a couple more ...
Title: Re: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: Evan Bottcher on March 24, 2009, 07:30:12 PM
SNAP!  Two '69 white GTVs.  Bet yours is done before mine :-(

Title: Re: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: Ash Gordon on March 24, 2009, 08:37:02 PM
It's a start just got to keep going on with it now as I have been driving it on & off since I bought her 4 years ago.

As it has been running rough decided to take it off the road . It's still registered and would prefer to keep the plates so hopefull it wont take years ! Don't want to be paying for reg that I am not using. Fortuantely I can adjust insurance to reflect it's current situation.

What with a little pressure from my mates and a little more time on my hands thought it was about time to get stuck in.
The more I remove, the more potential issues I find. Left front corner is also out of shape, the headlights are crammed in there nice and tight on one side and a massive 1/2 inch gap in the top corner !

Title: Re: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: Davidm1600 on April 01, 2009, 02:01:27 PM
Hey Evan, not snap two '69 white GTVs to be/being restored.  I also have a white '69 to restore, so make that snap 3x.  I am currently on the hunt for parts (panels), next trim etc.  I need to finish my Guilia Super first though !! Dave
Title: Re: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: spoynter on April 08, 2009, 02:51:41 PM
Can I start placing bets?!  ;D
Title: Re: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: alfagtv58 on April 08, 2009, 03:49:07 PM
My money is on Ash, looks like he has a pretty good starting point, David is half through a Giulia Super resto (pics or ban David!!) and Evan is spending all his cash on new selespeed parts  :P
Title: Re: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: Tim Jobson on April 09, 2009, 12:16:53 PM
At least you have had 4 years of driving enjoyment before the resto work began.   It has been 6 months since I purchased my GTV and only driven it up and down the lane (200m), I reckon it will be another 6 monts till it is at the registration stage.

Will look with interest in what you find and how you repair it!

Tim
Title: Re: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: pep105 on April 10, 2009, 01:20:32 AM

Ash looks like our cars were repaired in the past by the same butcher Ive got a chunk of bog in the form of a bumper mount on the rear panel as well

Dave as Phil said pics of the Guilia resto please

Evan forget the selespeed spend the money on the 1750 
Title: Re: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: 1750GT on April 10, 2009, 07:37:19 PM
Ash whilst you've got the car apart you may wish to consider turning your car into the following beast, follow link to the stangalfa! the add on may even get you over some of the body issues!

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/09/alfa-romeo-gtv-with-ford-mustang-v8.html

1750GT
Title: Re: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: Ash Gordon on April 11, 2009, 10:43:25 AM
I think a more sympathetic / original resto is the order of the day rather than dumping a monsterous V8 under the hood. it would "solve" a few issues though..

The orignal 1750 still pulls well, 86,000 miles on the clock - although it's probably been around twice..

Going to stick to the Hawthorne White colour and the Black interior. Seats need some attention but the rest is in quite good nick. A small 2cm long crack in the dash running back from the window side to the vent should be easily repaired . The headlining is still in a1 cond, but does anyone know why above the rear seat there is a raised section, added headroom perhaps ???

The body work is the hurdle. The "repairer" that "fixed" the bodywork last time was lazy with the work and rather than align the panels, whacked them on ( rear and front panels have been replaced)  with some B grade welding then bogged the surface up to make them level. TOP WORK !!

Then there's a smothering of deadner under the car, well it actually runs up about a 3 inches on the side too, a go faster stripe that probably weighs 10 kgs...

loads still to do - so place bets with care...
Title: Re: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: 1750GT on April 11, 2009, 07:53:38 PM
Yeh, just joking about the stangalfa, but it is interesting how spastic some owners will go. I agree I love the engine note and handling of the Alfa 17fidy. We are currently at Ocean Grove for easter and my son and I took it out today for a bash along the Great Ocean Road!

Aside from the occassional geriatric driver, we had a ball, the road holding at ten tenth's (after having all of the various front and rear suspension rubbers renewed) is spectacular. A great afternoon, this was our third trip down this section and it was just as thrilling as the first time. I reckon we should do an EMR or day thing down this road.

About the headlining at the rear, I am told that the origianl headlining did not meet clearance spec's for racing homolgation, so Alfa (rather than re-design the roof profile) raised the headlining by putting in the raised section. Don't get rid of this as it is an original feature on all 1750's.

I am not sure whether they fixed this in the GTV 2000, but I am sure that someone on this forum would know?

1750GT
Title: Re: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: Ash Gordon on April 19, 2009, 09:35:53 AM
About to start removing Engine , gearbox etc and just wanted to know if there are any tips for storing these mechanical parts longer term. i.e removing plugs and pouring a small amount of oil into each cylinder??

Any tips would be appreciated.
Title: Re: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: Davidm1600 on April 21, 2009, 08:19:39 AM
Ash, yep your ideas re pouring a little oil down the cylinder after removing the plugs is definitely worth doing. If you can occasionally turn the motor over by hand this also will help.  The key is to try to ensure that seals don't dry up since otherwise when you put everything back in the restored GTV, you may encounter a few problems (smoke from burning oil getting past seals, valve guides, oil leaks etc).  I am guilty of this as my GTV is in storage and I really need to go and turn its motor over a few times. 

Depending on how long your car is stripped down for the resto, you should also think about the brakes etc since once again the hydraulic seals can also dry out from a lack of use. Another reminder to myself  ;D ;D  Good luck with your project and hope to see more pics to help inspire.  Dave
Title: Re: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: Davidm1600 on April 21, 2009, 08:22:32 AM
Oh bugger guys I will have to try to take some more pics of the project Super and GTV and post them.  Couldnt stand being banned !! ;D  Just one question how do I post pics (eg. use the additional options key, and ??  )
Title: Re: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on April 21, 2009, 02:46:29 PM
Posting pics.....http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=55.0 (http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=55.0)
Title: Re: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: Davidm1600 on April 21, 2009, 08:01:26 PM
Damn it didn't work.  I tried to post some pics of my stash but the photos obviously are too large and given I have no idea of any photo reducing programs or much about this sort of thing I am stumped.  Funnily enough I have no trouble in posting my pics on the Alfabb. Perhaps photobucket or similar may be of use, but otherwise I am open to suggestions on what to try.  I would like to post some pictures to satsify people's curiosity.  Dave
Title: Re: 1750 project underway ...
Post by: Mat Francis on April 21, 2009, 08:06:34 PM
Dave:

http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=1837.0

try this link. find my post in there somewhere on resizing photo instructions. good luck  :)