I'm feeling adventurous and am going to have a crack at doing an upcoming brake replacement myself on my 159. I've done a bit of Youtubing and it doesnt look overly complicated (famous last words? :P)
My only issue is I have no clue where I should get the parts from or indeed what brand of parts to get. My knee jerk reaction was to check Repco (having used to work there many years ago). But that just gives me a list of theoretically compatible parts. But all I see are price tags. Also I have no idea of these parts from the likes of Bendix etc. have the brake pad monitoring cable.
I wouldn't mind getting Brembo's like the ones that car comes with, but I cant seem to find any catalogue which gives me the part numbers I need.
Any suggestions?
Italian automotive spares will have what you need.
maybe even a club discount if you ask (not sure)
Try here -
https://shop.alfisti.net/Tuning-Styling/Alfa-159/Brakes/Brembo-Caliper-Set-For-330-mm-Brake-System::6952.html?language=en
Quote from: Alfa-mad on December 16, 2020, 04:23:19 PM
Try here -
https://shop.alfisti.net/Tuning-Styling/Alfa-159/Brakes/Brembo-Caliper-Set-For-330-mm-Brake-System::6952.html?language=en
Solid. I assume they ship to Oz. What ETA would I be looking at?
Cost of those front calipers are around $1500 to $1600aud and shipping will cost you anywhere from $100 to $200aud.
That page shows pics of front and rear calipers but the description says only left and right front caliper so I would double check exactly what you're getting for that price.
ETA? Your guess is as good as mine :-\
Try Arese spares located in Sydney at the following link'
https://www.aresespares.com.au/browse/cn1_model/alfa-159/sort/name/display/list/master-cat/brakes/slave-cat/brake-pads
Ahhh, why would you be replacing the calipers??
Aren't you looking for replacement Pads & Discs/Rotors only?
If so, as already suggested, try Italian Automotive Spares in Melb or Arese Spares in Syd.
Between them you will find what you want, & usually at prices that make getting parts in from overseas not really worthwhile. Especially if there is a problem they are only a phone call away.
I normally say go OS as it's cheaper for OE Alfa parts, however brake rotors/discs are heavy fuckers and unless you really want AlfaOE then just use a local supplier.
That said, if you need OE fast, Arese (Vlad) is very good/value. He also has OE Brembo branded stuff in stock, he supplied pads and rotors overnight (syd-bris) for my GQV just recently. If you don't really care, SuperCheap has what you need also (Bosch, DBA and Bendix have all been OE suppliers to Alfa at some stage in the last 100yrs). Just call Vlad at Arese, it's simpler. You may need a piston wind in tool for the rears
What 159 is it.. 330Brembos or weedy Ate/Bendix ?
Quote from: Craig_m67 on December 17, 2020, 01:21:22 AM
What 159 is it.. 330Brembos or weedy Ate/Bendix ?
Big boy Brembo's. I dont need the calipers (at least I hope so). Car only has 88k on it.
haha I see the confusion here, in your first post you said you wanted to do a brake replacement and wanted Brembo like the car comes with, I assumed you mean the whole package.
In that case, you don't need overseas, can get everything local as suggested.
Quote from: Alfa-mad on December 17, 2020, 11:47:39 AM
haha I see the confusion here, in your first post you said you wanted to do a brake replacement and wanted Brembo like the car comes with, I assumed you mean the whole package.
In that case, you don't need overseas, can get everything local as suggested.
Haha no worries. Sorry for the confusion
And replacing rotors / pads is simple, even for the non-mechanically inclined. You'd easily recoup the cost of buying a trolley jack and axle stands from the labour a workshop would charge.
I should replace my rear pads during the shocks upgrade.
I did my front and rear pads last weekend.
The front pads are extremely easy - 20 mins a side max, including jacking the car and taking the wheels off.
The only thing holding in the front pads are the two pins which you'll need to knock out with a punch. Before doing them I read horror stories about rusted pins and needing heat or cutting to remove. I assume this is because of salt on the roads in Europe/UK. They were in perfect condition and came out easily for me!
The rears are also very easy. It really helps to have a caliper winding tool though!
And make sure you get slotted discs, so it looks "cool" 8)
https://www.vmaxbrakes.com.au/slotted-vmaxj-fits-alfa-romeo-159-2.4-3.2l-v6-06-o
Quote from: Alfa-mad on December 16, 2020, 05:06:08 PM
Cost of those front calipers are around $1500 to $1600aud and shipping will cost you anywhere from $100 to $200aud.
That page shows pics of front and rear calipers but the description says only left and right front caliper so I would double check exactly what you're getting for that price.
ETA? Your guess is as good as mine :-\
Actually the Alfisti store ship really fast, using DHL I think. I ordered from them earlier this year and it left Frankfurt and got to Melbourne in the space of about a week. Sure beats regular mail – but note that the postal system requires an extra COVID-19 surcharge so yes, postage will be about €100 I'm guessing.
Had I known you needed these, I could have added them to my last order and we could have saved on postage! Oh well, next time!
Maranellon used an Aussie branded Remsa on mine. Not the sports version, but decent brakes and much cheaper than the above.
Of course, if you want performance, then go all out. And add one of these to your cart while you're at it: https://shop.alfisti.net/Fan-Articles/Office-Articles/Stelvio-Pepermint-Lozenges::9310.html?language=en 8)
Quote from: jezzathep on December 22, 2020, 10:56:34 AM
And make sure you get slotted discs, so it looks "cool" 8)
https://www.vmaxbrakes.com.au/slotted-vmaxj-fits-alfa-romeo-159-2.4-3.2l-v6-06-o
Not bad, but I'm not really a fan of the slot shape, prefer these ones from DBA Rotors (DBA2298S)
..... and the benefit is?
It allows "Outgassing".
Basically - When pressure is applied to the pads against the disc while turning at speed, gasses are created from the brake pad material. This thin layer of gas inhibits braking action, the grooves allow the gas to escape and full contact between pad and disc.
Quote from: Alfa-mad on December 30, 2020, 11:35:04 AM
Quote from: jezzathep on December 22, 2020, 10:56:34 AM
And make sure you get slotted discs, so it looks "cool" 8)
https://www.vmaxbrakes.com.au/slotted-vmaxj-fits-alfa-romeo-159-2.4-3.2l-v6-06-o
Not bad, but I'm not really a fan of the slot shape, prefer these ones from DBA Rotors (DBA2298S)
any pad recommendation to go with?
Quote from: Craig_m67 on December 30, 2020, 05:10:43 PM
..... and the benefit is?
I'm sure you're well aware of the benefits that slotted rotors can provide, so I assume it was a loaded question.
In the context of the person who was asking about changing rotors, they probably won't see the benefit of slotted rotors at all since the brakes won't see high temperatures just cruising around the streets, which I have a feeling is the point you were going to make.
However, they do look more aesthetically pleasing that plain solid rotors and if you can get slotted rotors for around the same price, why not?
Quote from: Alfa-mad on December 31, 2020, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: Craig_m67 on December 30, 2020, 05:10:43 PM
..... and the benefit is?
I'm sure you're well aware of the benefits that slotted rotors can provide, so I assume it was a loaded question.
In the context of the person who was asking about changing rotors, they probably won't see the benefit of slotted rotors at all since the brakes won't see high temperatures just cruising around the streets, which I have a feeling is the point you were going to make.
However, they do look more aesthetically pleasing that plain solid rotors and if you can get slotted rotors for around the same price, why not?
Actually it wasn't a loaded question. I honestly had no idea, or more likely had forgotten when somebody told me 30yrs ago.
The outgassing benefit I understand, although I can't imagine this adds any benefit on the street. Maybe coming down the Clyde mountain with a caravan/trailer. The aesthetics.. subjective and I leave to each individual.
Quote from: Craig_m67 on December 31, 2020, 03:48:48 PM
although I can't imagine this adds any benefit on the street.
They do help prevent brake fade in certain situations, and when it comes to brakes, I won't argue with any bit of help one can get in stopping other people from running me down. ;)
As for benifits, the same goes for many performance items, especially spoilers/wings. To my knowledge there are only a handful of aerodynamic devices for road legal cars that give any benefit in down-force, at anywhere near legal speeds. They do however create a lot of drag for no gain, and usually make the car look ridiculous and scream to the world what a complete and utter numpty you are. ::)
Happy New Year everyone.
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Resurrecting this topic as I previously posted in here over 2 years ago about some DBA rotors I liked the look of. Well, finally my front rotors needed changing and I got the ones I referred to, they were easy to change and very happy with the look.
For reference, I got the following front rotors and pads:
- Discs: DBA Discs, T2 Slotted Street Series, 330mm, part no: DBA2298S
- Pads: Valeo, part no: 670772
alfa-romeo159_DBA-brake-disc_small.jpg
So - roll your eyes if you must, but I have a 1750 TBi Ti and the rotors are very, very grooved so I need to replace both pads and rotors. Would this be achievable for someone who's comfortable changing a wheel or an air filter? I gather I would need a trolley jack. Otherwise, I'm happy to get my mechanic to tackle it but wondered if there's a cost saving if I ordered the parts myself.
Quote from: MattK on October 10, 2023, 01:02:21 PMSo - roll your eyes if you must, but I have a 1750 TBi Ti and the rotors are very, very grooved so I need to replace both pads and rotors. Would this be achievable for someone who's comfortable changing a wheel or an air filter? I gather I would need a trolley jack. Otherwise, I'm happy to get my mechanic to tackle it but wondered if there's a cost saving if I ordered the parts myself.
I'd definitely recommend order the parts and do it yourself, it's not hard to do at all, only slightly more complicated than changing a tire.
I assume you have basic tools...sockets etc?
Just remove the wheel, remove the brake caliper (easy with the Brembo's especially), remove the small bolt with
an allen key (its for stopping the disc rotating when the wheel nuts aren't in place) and just spray a little WD40 around the edges of the holes and wait a few minutes so it can penetrate and loosen grip a bit, then whack with a hammer on the backside until it comes off, easy.
Put the new disc on and do everything in reverse. Of course, make sure you order those new brake pads too, and when everything is back together, make sure you go through the bed in procedure. These parts come with instructions so refer to those.
Save yourself some dosh.
Why are we rolling our eyes, it's the best engine available for that platform?