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Title: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: cranberry on July 05, 2016, 08:06:51 PM
Hi. I have come across a rust free barn find 1977 Alfasud Ti. It has not been started or driven in 20 years. It will obviously need some TLC to get going again. These are the things that will probably need doing:

- timing belt
- master cylinder
- complete brake overhaul
- full service including plugs, points and fluids
- replace fuel lines
- new tyres
- new battery

Can you think of anything else that will need doing? I have attached some pics for your viewing pleasure.

Can anyone advise what possible value I can place on this car so I can make an offer that is fair to both sides?
Title: Re: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: Italian Supermodel on July 05, 2016, 09:58:52 PM
Nice find Cranberry.....
I'm not an expert on Suds ( years of fun with Alfettas though)but my 22c worth(gst inclusive)screams, don't pass this fabulous car up. If its as good and true as it looks it is rare to see something as clean and 'solid'(read rust free)as those images.
Yes those maintenance items are expected but that's nothing to revive this gorgeous thing from its two decade slumber.
Splurge out and give it a 40th birthday to remember!
Title: Re: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: bazzbazz on July 05, 2016, 10:02:01 PM
All I can say is . . ."You lucky, lucky b*gger!"

Check Six

Baz
Title: Re: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: cranberry on July 05, 2016, 10:22:28 PM
More pics...
Title: Re: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: cranberry on July 05, 2016, 10:23:04 PM
Another couple...
Title: Re: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: aggie57 on July 06, 2016, 09:19:38 AM
You're in Adelaide right?  And you've been looking for a car for a while?  And you've offered $2k but been rejected?  Well, that all came from your other posts so I'd say you have about, oh 24-48 hrs to sort out a price before someone else interstate or in the UK gets in the trail.

Me, I'd happily pay $10k for a car like that. Assuming it's as good as you say.
Title: Re: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: cranberry on July 06, 2016, 09:59:38 AM
The car is not advertised anywhere and it's hidden away so no fear. It's mine until I say no. Get it?  ;D ;D ;D

But anyway, thanks for your constructive thoughts in answer to my original question. Sheesh!
Title: Re: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: pasey25 on July 06, 2016, 10:22:48 AM
you've said fluids but be sure to flush the cooling system as thoroughly as the oily bits
Title: Re: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: aggie57 on July 06, 2016, 12:20:18 PM
Quote from: cranberry on July 06, 2016, 09:59:38 AM
The car is not advertised anywhere and it's hidden away so no fear. It's mine until I say no. Get it?  ;D ;D ;D

But anyway, thanks for your constructive thoughts in answer to my original question. Sheesh!

You asked for input a number that's fair to both parties, you got it. An early Ti without rust and original is the Holy Grail for most Sud collectors.  $2k is way too low. Forget what it costs to do maintenance, that's irrelevant. It's the chassis, the interior, and how complete it is that determines the value.
Title: Re: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: poohbah on July 06, 2016, 12:31:12 PM
That must be one hell of a barn cranberry! A climate controlled one by the look of the car.
Title: Re: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: cranberry on July 06, 2016, 01:34:27 PM
Quote from: aggie57 on July 06, 2016, 12:20:18 PM
Quote from: cranberry on July 06, 2016, 09:59:38 AM
The car is not advertised anywhere and it's hidden away so no fear. It's mine until I say no. Get it?  ;D ;D ;D

But anyway, thanks for your constructive thoughts in answer to my original question. Sheesh!

You asked for input a number that's fair to both parties, you got it. An early Ti without rust and original is the Holy Grail for most Sud collectors.  $2k is way too low. Forget what it costs to do maintenance, that's irrelevant. It's the chassis, the interior, and how complete it is that determines the value.

Respectfully disagree but thanks anyway. There's always a limit. It's a nice thing but not something I feel comfortable throwing bucket loads of money at. Past experience has proved to me that whatever figure you come up with for repairs times it by 2.
Title: Re: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: aggie57 on July 06, 2016, 01:41:46 PM
If it was bodywork I'd agree, but everything you've listed is maintenance stuff. The sort of things you'd do on any 40 year old car when you bought it.
Title: Re: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: carlo rossi on July 06, 2016, 02:45:41 PM
I regonise that garage
thats uncle gerard just out of adelaide
ONly joshing NO idea really

Your on the right track and forgive us for our impetuous ways
but you dont see a clean ti very often
at a quick glance if its a 1.2 ti that motor looks like a 1.5
not sure whicjh way does the inlet manifold go under the carby
ie the 2 barrells of the carby  run length wise across the manifold or front to back
great buy !
ps check around the windscreen most have had a new panel put in
if not it will need it this is their worst rust area
tap it you can tell ther difference the old ones had foam filler
and or bog the new ones are tinny( better)
Title: Re: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: BBRT on July 06, 2016, 07:15:30 PM
Cranberry,
Because you appear to concerned about the cost of ownership of the car, I believe that you have never owned nor driven a sud or 33. You do not understand the passion that a car like one engenders in those on this website who have. It is your duty to take it on and see it through and be one of us or pass it on now to someone who will.
Title: Re: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: cranberry on July 06, 2016, 07:54:49 PM
I've owned 2 Alfasuds, both 1.5 Ti's. Thanks for your advice.
Title: Re: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: prova on July 10, 2016, 07:32:13 PM
Hi mate .... I think what everyone is trying to convey in many different ways is that the Sud you have found is special. Even needing a decent mechanical freshen up, not registered, etc, I feel that it is still a 10K plus car in that condition .... if you can get it cheaper then we'll done. It is the exceptional bodywork and interior that makes it so desirable. Hope you go for it!
Title: Re: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: Alfa.mg on September 15, 2016, 07:14:11 PM
Wow that is an awesome find! I wish my sud plastics were like that! Sud mechanicals are easily maintained and cheaply. Ive just built a twin carb engine on one hell of a budget without skipping anything. 20 years!
Title: Re: Advice sought on barn find car - 1977 Alfasud Ti
Post by: cranberry on September 16, 2016, 10:09:26 AM
The owner of this car will no longer respond to my persistent requests for me to buy it. I've been told I'm a pest but this might confirm it.  :o