Alfa Romeo Owners Club of Australia Forum

Technical => 900 Series (Alfasud, Alfasud Sprint, 33) => Topic started by: herbyj on October 27, 2014, 06:27:03 PM

Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: herbyj on October 27, 2014, 06:27:03 PM
Hi

I'm after an original radio/cassette (which I believe was a Pioneer) plus the electric aerial. The aerial is stuck up halfway so I would like to get one of those too but want to keep the car as original as possible.

Please PM me if you've got either item for sale.

Jonathan

Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: colcol on October 27, 2014, 06:47:16 PM
I don't know who has one, but it was the same one fitted to Ford Fairlanes of the same era,  they were fitted when the Alfasud's were landed in Australia.
It broke down, so i took it to Pioneer in Boundary Road in Braeside, and the repair service guy, said, mmm Fairlane, we have had some problems with these, i said, no Alfasud, he said, there is a fix, with a new circuit that has 10 AM and 5 FM radio stations, to please the conservative tastes of 80 year old Fairlane drivers.
So jump on Ebay and search for early 80's Fairlanes being wrecked, Colin.
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: herbyj on October 27, 2014, 06:53:03 PM
Thanks Colin.
is it the same unit that was used in early 33s?
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: Victor Lee on October 27, 2014, 08:24:40 PM
My '85 33 GCl had the 2 channel Eurovox.  The 33 TIs had the 4 channel Eurovox.
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: colcol on October 27, 2014, 09:30:17 PM
The 33's had the 2 channel Eurovox's, as pointed out by Victor, if other 33 driver's had the experience's i had with them, they would be long gone, my TI had a 2 channel, but i replaced it with a 4 channel.
Most of the twin carb Suds i have seen have aftermarket units.
For absolute originality, you would have no radio cassete, as when imported to Australia, Colin.
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: Craig_m67 on October 27, 2014, 10:59:03 PM
My '87 QV Sprint** had an Alfa Romeo radio/cassette in it. Even had Alfa Romeo on the cassette door.  Pretty sure it was stock as there were instructions in the manual on how to use it.  The GT Junior I bought back in August has the same unit fitted, brought back memories and i was quite surprised at how good it sounded.


** not a Sud obviously.
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: Victor Lee on October 27, 2014, 11:04:48 PM
Col, your 33 Ti came with a 2 channel?  A mate's '85 33 Ti came with the 4 channel...I remember being very jealous of it!  They came with the nice Alfa logo on the cassette flap.

I reckon I saw some radios of that era down at Monza Motors.
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: colcol on October 28, 2014, 06:43:42 PM
They sounded good, but were always having to be repaired, Eurovox went broke about 10 years ago, didn't shed a tear.
I had a 4 channel in the 33, out of the Passat and the 2 channel out of the 33, then i did a swaparoo.
An Alfa Romeo wrecker may have an original twin carb Sud Pioneer, try calling Monza repairs and if that fails, Pinch A Part have lots of Radio Cassetes for $15 or so in the bargain bin, Colin.
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: Sportscar Nut on October 28, 2014, 09:01:34 PM
Jonathon

Also been on the hunt for an original Pioneer stereo with no luck so far! My understanding is that they did not have the Alfa cursive on the cassette 'flap' but like Col's suggestion that were also fitted to Fords. I found an original set of Pioneer square door speakers in the UK so wonder if the same units were fitted in most QV Suds globally???

Cheers
Paul
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: Craig_m67 on October 28, 2014, 11:41:16 PM
The one in my Sprint was a Pioneer. Speakers in the door were Pioneer. Head unit had AlfaRomeo in cursive on the cassette door. I'll see if i can find a picture of it, car is in storage otherwise you could have it :)
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: herbyj on October 29, 2014, 10:17:00 AM
Hi
Thanks everyone for the replies and suggestions.
The antenna on my car is broken so I think I'll get that fixed and see if the current radio, an old JVC radio/cassette, works without too much static.
If I can get it going I'll keep it otherwise I'll start the search for the original Pioneer unit.
Jonathan
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: amichie on October 30, 2014, 07:08:00 PM
Hi there

Mine has the original radio and it is Pioneer and has the Alfa Romeo print on the cassette door.

Andrew
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: herbyj on October 31, 2014, 10:04:43 AM
Thanks Andrew for the photo, that clears up the conjecture.

As I said above, I've got an old JVC unit in the car which looks ok and it's from the 80's but it's very crackly. I'm replacing the broken antenna and then I'll see how the current unit works.

If it doesn't come up I'll start looking for a Pioneer unit.

Jonathan
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: amichie on October 31, 2014, 11:15:13 AM
Hi Jonathon

Just for the record the sound of the Pioneer is not the greatest anyway.

Andrew
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: herbyj on October 31, 2014, 12:16:41 PM
Thanks again Andrew.
I wouldn't be putting the Pioneer, if I get one, in for the sound more for the look and the originality.
Jonathan
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: Mike on January 11, 2015, 01:03:21 PM
This is mine in my 12th month 1983 sud Ti QV, for reference.

regards
Mike
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: Craig_m67 on January 11, 2015, 02:13:17 PM
That's the one I had in my SprintQV

Fond memories :)
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: colcol on January 11, 2015, 09:20:39 PM
Mike, the good thing about that stereo, is that it had AM Stereo, remember that?, it was going to save AM Radio from the onslaught of FM Radio, AM Stereo gave you bad sound in the two speakers, what brand of Radio was it?, i know it says Alfa Romeo, but who made it?, was it JVC?, at least in the olden days there was no code to put in after a flat battery, something quite common in older Alfa Romeo's, Colin.
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: Mike on January 11, 2015, 11:58:41 PM
Haha, yeah I think it's JVC, but at the mechanic's so will check when it's back.  It still works, but won't set your world on fire that's for sure!
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: lombardi on January 12, 2015, 12:30:48 PM
I had what looked like the same as photo in my 33 ti 1985,it's a pioneer,maybe for that time it was ok, but now not so good.remember cassette's.ie tape's.
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: alfafarm on January 12, 2015, 01:31:38 PM
Hi  I have a pile of steros from alfas up to 164 which is a pioneer as well  john
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: colcol on January 12, 2015, 06:21:30 PM
My 33 TI had a Eurovox, quite unreliable, Uncle Col blew a poofer valve one night and smashed it up [while driving], see 'Violence against cars' post.
I used to love cassettes when they would unwind themselves and tangle up in the winder, then it would be radio out, pull apart and pull out the remaining tape with pointy nosed pliers.
MP3 is much better, Colin.
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on January 12, 2015, 08:06:11 PM
Quote from: colcol on January 11, 2015, 09:20:39 PM
Mike, the good thing about that stereo, is that it had AM Stereo, remember that?, it was going to save AM Radio from the onslaught of FM Radio, AM Stereo gave you bad sound in the two speakers

Wow, never heard of AM stereo before.  Thanks Uncle Colcol, yet again you teach me something.  Interesting Wikipedia article about it.....  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AM_stereo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AM_stereo)
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: Garibaldi on January 13, 2015, 08:41:50 AM
Col, I'd forgotten all of those annoying issues with cassette tapes, getting tangled up inside the player or getting caught up when you ejected it leaving half the tape inside the unit. I remember like it was yesterday using a pencil or a pen to rewind a tape full of kinks because it was chewed up by the player. Just thinking about that makes me very angry. >:(
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: colcol on January 13, 2015, 11:23:11 PM
I remember, in the olden days you would pull up at an intersection and there would be an unwound tape with all the tape flapping in the breeze on the ground flung there by an angry motorist, i threw out about 500 cassette tapes about a year ago, don't miss them one bit, i imagine in about 20 years people will be looking for cassette tapes to put in their classic 70's-80's cars.
I think the last Alfa Romeo car to have a Radio cassette was a very early 156 of about 98 vintage, as i have seen them in old owners manuals, Colin.
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: Bourney on October 08, 2016, 07:43:27 PM
Hi,
Does anyone know the model number of the stereo in the 1983 Sud QV Ti? Was it a Pioneer KEH 4008? Or can you post a pic?
Regards David
Title: Re:Alfasud Ti Qv 1983 radio
Post by: Bourney on October 08, 2016, 10:10:25 PM
Hi,
I just saw the pic from page 1 - it is a pioneer KEH 4008. I also have a Peugeot 205 gti and when I was looking at a 1983 Peugeot 505, I thought it had the same stereo, so finding a stereo from a 505 is another option. You can list a "wanted request" on the Aussie Frogs website. I have picked one up this way.
Regards David