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Technical => 116 Series (Alfetta Sedan/GT/GTV & Giulietta Sedan) => Topic started by: Storm_X on July 20, 2013, 03:28:46 PM

Title: 105 sump swap with 116 sump.
Post by: Storm_X on July 20, 2013, 03:28:46 PM
Hi all I'm just wondering if I bought a 2.0 with a 105 sump and swap it with a 116 sump , do I need to change the oil pickup ?
Title: Re: 105 sump swap with 116 sump.
Post by: Rob Berson on July 20, 2013, 05:45:25 PM
The pickup on the 116 oil pump is very different to that on a 105. It is possible to modify a 116 sump with baffles and gates to use a 105 pump. Might be easier to swap out the 105 pump for a 116 one.

Rob
Title: Re: 105 sump swap with 116 sump.
Post by: aggie57 on July 20, 2013, 05:59:27 PM
Don't forget to change the dipstick.
Title: Re: 105 sump swap with 116 sump.
Post by: Storm_X on July 20, 2013, 06:08:20 PM
I'm thinking of buying one and the dip stick is on the exhaust side and has a flat sump. I thought on the 105s the dip stick was on the intake side ?

I can't remember but does the oil pump easily come out once the sump is off ?
Title: Re: 105 sump swap with 116 sump.
Post by: Davidm1600 on July 20, 2013, 06:47:48 PM
ahm, possibly a dumb question but why exactly would you wish to do that Storm_X, I am assuming there must be a perfectly good reason to do so ??
Title: Re: 105 sump swap with 116 sump.
Post by: Storm_X on July 20, 2013, 08:11:45 PM
Apparently a fully reconditioned motor that has only done 50 laps of Mallala in a clubman car, but I'm more interested in the EFI setup that was on it.
Title: Re: 105 sump swap with 116 sump.
Post by: Davidm1600 on July 20, 2013, 08:33:37 PM
Right , that makes sense, but why the need to change sumps ?? 
Title: Re: 105 sump swap with 116 sump.
Post by: Storm_X on July 20, 2013, 08:43:14 PM
Will a 105 flat sump even fit straight into my giulietta ?
Title: Re: 105 sump swap with 116 sump.
Post by: Davidm1600 on July 20, 2013, 09:01:36 PM
Well at least that now makes sense.  No I suspect a 105 sump may not fit in a giulietta.  At least now I understand the original question.  ;D
Title: Re: 105 sump swap with 116 sump.
Post by: Storm_X on July 20, 2013, 09:16:59 PM
Ill wait and see if anyone can help me out.
Title: Re: 105 sump swap with 116 sump.
Post by: Storm_X on July 20, 2013, 09:27:58 PM
Also the engine was originally out of a alfetta , but a 105 sump had to be fitted so it could fit into the clubman.
Title: Re: 105 sump swap with 116 sump.
Post by: Evan Bottcher on July 20, 2013, 09:33:07 PM
Quote from: aggie57 on July 20, 2013, 05:59:27 PM
Don't forget to change the, dipstick.

Change the what? And don't be so rude to Stormy! :)
Title: Re: 105 sump swap with 116 sump.
Post by: Storm_X on July 21, 2013, 05:17:58 PM
Sorry ?
Title: Re: 105 sump swap with 116 sump.
Post by: aggie57 on July 21, 2013, 06:16:19 PM
Quote from: Evan Bottcher on July 20, 2013, 09:33:07 PM
Quote from: aggie57 on July 20, 2013, 05:59:27 PM
Don't forget to change the, dipstick.

Change the what? And don't be so rude to Stormy! :)

Me?  Not me Sir!!  I do protesth my innocence :)