Hi there all
Apologies for the delay.
Here are the entry form and supp regs for AROCA Winton Sprint on Sunday 30th March.
Looking like a field and first one for 2008.
Short track as usual, and you all know how much fun the short track is.
Neil
woohoo! first to download :P
Hi there all
AROCA Winton Sprint is this Sunday, come up and have a look and catch up with other members.
If you are wanting a run, I can still accept entries up to the day.
Give me a call 0433 11 66 47
Neil
Looks like it was a good day, lots of laps and some pretty fast times on Natsoft.
The link being ... http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?30/03/2008.WIN (http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?30/03/2008.WIN)
Well Brad , what you feared came to pass . Its time for your sibling to get his own car . The rules of borrowing is not to beat the owner . Just point zero eight of one second - that hurts . JJ .
It's OK I'm having him deported ... won't be a problem again.
Brad first they beat you by a little bit then it becomes sport to
beat you as much as possible. Victor has this problem with Mary and I have this problem with Susan. Nip it in the bud now dont let it get any worse. Cheers Ray
Hmmm... Brad being beaten by 0:00.08 must hurt!
But Raymond, 0:01.21 must definately hurt! Have u got that gender recognition device working yet? Mine doesn't work, so now I'm thinking about a weight sensor hooked up to the drivers seat that instructs the ECU to knock off 2000RPM! I'm telling u... these girls have a definite weight advantage!
Ok, Ok, Ok, to save u looking it up, Mary beat me at Phillip Island last December by 0:00.21.
Cheers
Victor
Next time on the short track, I'll be using octane boost and dropping the front sway bar in an attempt to wipe out the 80 thousandth of a second deficit... plus learn to drive. Get this the tip from my brother was to practice with computer games. ;D
Maybe with no skin in the game Jeremy had the 'no fear' factor . I suggest you have the 'you bend it - you mend it chat' .
Any way i always manage to beat my dad by a considerable margin but i never point it out as he is the team finaciaer and he is in his middle 70's so i should probably doing a lot better .
How great is it to read this thread, the real subject between the lines... one heck of a fast sprint!!!
(i'm chossing to ignore "No Fear" Musco for the time being).
the green machine of Mr Mussco was a truly great sight . He must have 8 lives left the way he pilots that sprint . The NATSOFT times are a good guide of a top day with perfect conditions . Apart from a few quickly recovered offs[ i contributed here ] the day ran faultlessly with the four run groups clocking up massive run totals . Am a little unsure of the standard under 2l class times . They seem espeacilly quick figures compared to how they looked in the flesh ?
Would be good to get back to transponders even if a small charge applied ? This would reduce time irregularities that understandibly happen .
Ed just come over in future , Brad is happy to loan his car out....
Just a quick note to let you know how much I enjoyed the my first sprint meet with the club. The assistance by club members was very much appreciated.
Hey Ray, that was great session! Lots of fun. If my wife looks as though she wants a run in the car, I'll think long and hard !
Justin,
I think a few of the cars don't really qualify as standard, based on how I read the 2006 rules.
Jeff for instance (car 30) who was at his first sprint and may not even know the class structure, ( I know I struggled to find details when I started).
His car is quite extensively modified just from a quick look, stripped out interior, non-standard exhaust, and what I think were R-spec tyres.
One other of these cars also runs what I think are R-spec tyres, and another runs some pretty trick Michelin's that might even be considered R-spec but who knows.
I don't know if it really matters, but it does make the system of having different classes a bit pointless.
As for Brad, well I think he should set up an arrive and drive service.
His brother had the best service I have ever seen.
Just wandered up to the dummy grid, and the car was ready and waiting.
Bring it in at the end of the session and park it.
No mess no bother!
Alan.
Justin
Neil & I made the decision that we will move to dorians for the timing from Sandown. Spending some time in the timing tower tapping the button gives a very clear indication of how much the manual system sucks. I've taken photos & dimensions of the dorians and I'll publish this in the next week so everyone can see them and figure out how to fit them. The units that we will use are different from those used for the 6 - hour which are no longer available.
Doug
Thanks Doug and Neil for making the move to dorian based timing . I under stand the main aim is enjoy the driving and to have new faces attending . The stop watch is a big factor however as the crowds around the freshly posted run sheets attests . Great move gents !
Winton was the smoothest sprint i have attended with the likes of Brian Canny , the two youngest Arrons boys and a whole host of other volunteers carring the weight of organizing . Cheers to you all . JJ .
Alan from point of view of getting new people involved then of coarse what class they fit into is not an issue . We may need to do a bit more on the communication front going forward . As new entrants turn up for second and third sprints then it can be pointed out at scruitineering what mods may be doing to the class they should run in . Its all fun , but even more fun to know how your measuring up to fellow compeditors ! Thats my 10 cents worth . JJ .
Justin,
Yes it is all fun. I'm really just out to see how I am improving (or not).
I tend to look at the times of a few other competitors for comparison.
For instance you are always substantially quicker than me, but your dad seems to run at about my pace.
This gives me an idea at a new track whether I've got any idea of the right lines etc.
The dorians should eliminate any 'fast' laps due to human error.
I hope this doesn't slow down my best times by too much!
Alan.
Note to Brad ,Jim is selling his race car. The arrive and drive day worked a treat for your brother.I was wondering, If you brought Jims car and promise{fingers crossed} not to go faster can we all have a drive?Please give this some thought thanks Ray.
Quote from: Justin Jacobs on April 02, 2008, 12:15:08 PM
Alan from point of view of getting new people involved then of coarse what class they fit into is not an issue . We may need to do a bit more on the communication front going forward . As new entrants turn up for second and third sprints then it can be pointed out at scruitineering what mods may be doing to the class they should run in . Its all fun , but even more fun to know how your measuring up to fellow compeditors ! Thats my 10 cents worth . JJ .
All competitors should complete a annual declaration stating the modifications made to the car (should be available for download on the site) which is then provided to the Comp Sec and the class is then determined. If you haven't done this then i suggest you do. It probably hasn't been enforced as much over the past couple of years with the regular group knowing which class they are in, with new competitors is should be done as it does do away with any confusion and puts everyone on the same even playing field.
Neil, maybe you should send it out with the next set of sup-regs?