Hello,
I have had my 1973 105 GTV since 1980 and she is desperatleeeeee in need of a total engine rebuild.
Can anyone suggest a good place to have this done... my regular mechanic cannot do the job at the moment... I have pistons rings and liners... I am after a great job... as it needs to last me for another 27 years...???
At the moment is is sitting in a workshop - head off - ready to check the bottom end... but while we are at it... lets do it properly.
while she is being worked on are there any simple mods that will give some more sparkle... valves, porting... etc...and perhaps let her run on unleaded???
I look 4ward to your advice... until then I have to drive my sons sprint...
::)
Thanks
There is a handful to choose from and all advertise on this site - Maranello, PACE, Alfpa/Monza etc. Simply pick the one closest to you as they willa ll do a top job and know where to get the replacement and / or go faster bits from.
Hi all,
I am new to this forum, so this is my first post :)
I was hoping to get everyones opinion on the cost of my engine recondition.
Like Mark (the OP), I have 1973 GTV 2000 105.
Living in Perth I always get my car tuned/repaired by Ciliberti Motors who have always done a good job.
I am currently getting my engine reconditioned by them, as well as new extractors, cams, engine balance etc.
I was very surprised to find the cost of my engine recondition coming to $7000, with another $3000-$4000 for the cam/extractors/etc. I can post a complete quotation and list of repairs if anyone is interested.
Is this quote about average for a 105 engine? Would have there been a cheaper option?
Thanks :)
Ishamael,
depends on what needs to be done and what improvements are being done at the same time (always worth considering).
Cileberti have a great reputation for putting solid Alfa engines together but everything has it's price. 2nd opinions are always valuable so why not come down to the All Italian Car Day this Sunday @ the Technology Centre, Bentley where you ask this questio to a dozen Alfa 105 owners all of whom will have done similar.
Never consider getting this work done by anyone other than an Alfa mechanic and there are about 3-6 in Perth.
If you do make it, try and find me - Edward and i will endeavour to introduce you to the right people to chat with.
(i'll be pretty much running the AROCA WA section and be there with my black 156 GTA.
Hi Ishamael,
I would love to see a breakdown of the costs. I have 4 105 engines and am deciding which will be the cheapest to rebuild once I get to that point with my Sprint GT Veloce.
Thanks Derek and Edward for your replies.
Unfortunately I am in Port Hedland until Wednesday so I will not be able to attend The All Italian Car Day at the Technology Centre :(
Once I am back in Perth I will be sure to post the complete quotation for you Derek :)
As promised here is the detailed quotation of my engine rebuild currently underway:
Description Amount
Piston Line 880
Engine Gasket 280
Valve Guide 88
Top Chain 65
Bottom Chain 40
Spark Plugs 53.76
Points 27
Air Filter 35
Oil Filter 17
Fuel Filter 13
Headstand 468
Gudgeon Pin bushes 158.32
Main bearing 106.20
Con Rod Bearing 96.14
Bay Pass Hose 25
Carby Mounting 204
Carby gasket kit 138
fan belt 18.78
grand crank shaft 140
fit gudgeon pin bushes 90
fit valve guide 88
Sand blast block 37
sand blast head 37
con rod 110
Weld and machine block line bor 600
clean radiator 88
coolant 44
Engine oil 41.25
Steam clean top and bottom 37.50
Radiator cap 20
Overhaul carby 356
Crank shaft plugs 41.34
Retreat block head stand 176
Overhaul engine 1760
strip and reassemble all accessory under bonnet and clean 1400
face valve and seat 132
Brake fluid 18
Total 7929.29 :o
On top of this I requested bigger cams - here is the hand written quote given:
cams 1000
extractors 600
Something about 'ports' (the writing was really rough) 700
Engine balance 250
Clutch 363
Pistons? 300
Total 3213 (approx) :o
So pretty much after budgeting for the engine recondition and panel beating, I've had to put restoring the interior on hold.
Also if anyone could help out finding a second-hand boot lid for sale (the original is too rusted out to repair), that would be much appreciated :)
theres $1400 worth of cleaning in the quote that you could save by doing yourself (although a lot easier to do with the engine out) and $600 worth of engine welding so it sounds like your engine isnt up to it to start with and you might be better off with a new (old) block. Not sure what the $468 for headstand is.
But, other than going to one of the other Alfa specialists in Perth, Cilebertis will do a good all round job.
As for cams and extractors - there is only one source for those and they have been Alfa proven over time - PACE in Melbourne. Depending on cams you could get these and extractors for about $1200 plus delivery (and if you do, i might be able to help with delivery as i want to buy some extractors and 2 piece fronts spoiler of PACE too shortly).
Yes, if I was still working back in perth I would have done as much as I could, to save myself money.
I have already given the go ahead to Cilebertis for the cam and extractor replacement, but I'm not sure if they have ordered the parts in yet...it might be worthwhile calling them on Tuesday and checking.
I did suggest to Leo, if this would all have been cheaper if I just bought a second hand engine in good repair and reconditioned that - he said it would not make any difference.
I will keep you posted anyway Edward :)
Hi Ishamael,
thanks for posting that. Its exactly what I needed to see. Gives me a really good idea of what I may need to address when I pull my engine soon.
Ciao
Derek