Twin Spark Berlina

Started by Divano Veloce, March 06, 2013, 09:18:21 PM

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Colin Byrne

yea its crazy how much bump steer these cars can have in them with semi standard setups

what ride height are you running? we're both running fairly standard ride height to get some decent ground clearance
72' 105 2000 GTV Red (tarmac rally/race car)
74' 105 2000 GTV Blue (road car)
68' 105 1600 Giulia Super White (Not sure yet)
01' Nissan Pathfinder (Tow car/Alfa support vehicle)

LaStregaNera

lower than you I would imagine, but not super low, see pic

66 GT Veloce
Bimota SB6

Paul Byrne

Just to clarify track rod end points change to reduce bump steer with the risers in place.
I meant that I changed the pivot points so that there was a 15 to 20mm increase in the height of the outer pivot relative to the inner. I raised the outer by about 5mm and dropped the inner by about 10mm.
Hope this clarifies!
74 GTV 2000 tarmac rally
75 Spider
EX 51 Jowett Jupiter

LaStregaNera

66 GT Veloce
Bimota SB6

Divano Veloce

#49
The gearbox did NOT want to be left behind so they both came out... I think it was binding on the spigot bush which pulled out with the gearbox

Improv torture rack



next off with the head. Again I used the block and tackle to save my back




1968 Berlina TS
1989 75 TS
1990 75 TS
2007 147 JTD

Divano Veloce

Off with the battery tray

Engine bay after a wash.... When the TS motor was installed the owner had the engine bay painted... Thanks Nigel!
1968 Berlina TS
1989 75 TS
1990 75 TS
2007 147 JTD

Divano Veloce

All pistons look like this on the inlet side, the rest of the skirt looks perfect


Big ends all look pretty good




1968 Berlina TS
1989 75 TS
1990 75 TS
2007 147 JTD

Divano Veloce

1968 Berlina TS
1989 75 TS
1990 75 TS
2007 147 JTD

Evan Bottcher

Quote from: Divano Veloce on July 11, 2015, 09:11:43 AM

By the time I'm done I will have a car that's probably too nice to enjoy the way I have....

https://youtu.be/A-oLGZRoRWI

Nice video, but you should have had your sleeves rolled down. Pit lane marshall slacking off  8)
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Divano Veloce

Fark.. That's why I hadn't posted this vid...  Whoops
1968 Berlina TS
1989 75 TS
1990 75 TS
2007 147 JTD

Divano Veloce

Turns out spare sills are a mixed bag. At best 1.5 lhs sills.... However unlike coupes the sill profiles are straight/parallel so can be easily made.
1968 Berlina TS
1989 75 TS
1990 75 TS
2007 147 JTD

GTVeloce

Nord rods perhaps? Bump up that CR...

GTVeloce

I think you should be able to re-use most of the TS bottom end. I doubt there is any issues with the block itself. A set of second hand nord rods in good condition would be very cheap. Get the original crank checked out for balance and condition. New (probably over-size) big end bearings. Have the pistons and liners checked for out of round etc. Then maybe have your pulley checked for balance as well.

Should be fairly cheap; be balanced; have slightly more compression and still have the TS motor. Only potential major problem would be if you need to replace the pistons and liners or crank.

I'm just envious you were able to pull the head off so easily! I'm guessing it has been off not that long ago.

LaStregaNera

I vaguely recall the nose being slightly different.
I'd re-use the TS crank - alfa cranks are pretty solidly overbuilt - maybe throw a can of dye-pen at it to check for cracks, but i reckon you'll find it's ok. They're Nitrided, so it's pretty rare that the crank needs re-grinding.

I must have missed it, what's the reason for engine stripdown?
66 GT Veloce
Bimota SB6

AikenDrum105

The nord cranks are a little different on the nose - but there's also a difference on the radius on the edge of the bearing journals. earlier nords have a sharp edge where TS cranks have a 2mm radius.   You have to be careful to check the bearing shells you use are chamfered on the edges to allow for this radius in on a TS crank  (or just chamfer an earlier set with the edge of a steel ruler - thanks Vin...) 

I've been using an earlier 2L nord crank in the last two iterations of the TS in my super.  (because that was the crank I'd tapped grub screws into the galleys on already... :)  )

Ben's right - the nitrided cranks are super tough... 

Scott
'66 Giulia Super 105.28.720988 TS+MS3+ITB+COP
'65 Giulia Sprint GT 105.04.753710
'04 156 JTS Sportwagon

Earlier follies...
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'85 GTV6
'71 1750 GTV