Using Mobil 1 in 75 Twin Spark engine

Started by GioGTVTS, October 11, 2011, 10:32:07 PM

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GioGTVTS

Hi, I am new to posting, but have been a member for quite sometime. I am currently using Penrite HPR 30 in by car (Alfetta GTV with 75 Twin Spark engine). I would like to try a fully synthetic oil like Mobil 1 15W - 50 with my next oil change. Has anyone with a 75 2L Twin Spark used this oil before and what is/was your experience? Appreciate any advise. Cheers. John
'85 Alfetta GTV Twin Spark

Darryl

Why do you want to use it?

How many kms the engine done?

At a glance, once warmed up the Mobil 1 15W 50 will be substantially lower viscosity than HPR30.

I've use Penrite SIN 10 for the *higher* viscosity vs HPR30 when hot and lower at 40 degrees or so. But its in a worn engine... I *think* its reduced oil use and I *hope* its doing a good job of minimising further wear, but I could be kidding myself on both...

GioGTVTS

Hi Darryl, Reason for switch is mainly to reduce wear, although another benefit will be reduced power loss through lower friction. The engine has done about 130,000kms. Hopefully, it may also reduce oil use. Currently my engine uses less than 1 lit per 5000kms.
'85 Alfetta GTV Twin Spark

Tristan Atkins

Hi GioGTVTS,

I've also got a GTV with a TS engine and I too looked a various synthetic oils.  The problem is most full synthetic's are designed for modern engines with tighter clearances. Considering the engine was designed for mineral oil, the HPR semi synthetic should be more than capable of doing the job.

I've always used HPR with both the original NORD and the TS engine whilst sprinting without issue and I highly recommend it to any Alfa owner.

Gary Pearce

Hi Darryl, the thing with oils is....everybody will have an opinion about the oil that they are using, and in the absence of problems they will all declare that their choice is the best.
Mobil 1 15w50 is a superior motor oil with very few peers. I don't support the argument that 'the engine was designed to use mineral oil' because if good quality synthetics were available 40 years ago we would have been using them then too. The 15w component will provide quicker oil delivery when cold and at operating temperatures the 50 will give serious protection at all speeds and temperatures with reduced friction. . (By way of comparison HPR30 is 20w60) In addition Mobil 1 is virtually impossible to breakdown under extreme temperatures and stress. Just ask Grant Tander. Another misconception often bandied around is the lack of zinc content in modern synthetic oils. In Mobil 1 there is no reduction in zinc with better than 1600 p/m. Use the Mobil 1.
1966 Giulia GTC
1967 Giulia Sprint GT Veloce
1974 Metalic Green Montreal
1966 Giulia Super Blue
1980 Mazda B1800
1989 MX5
2013 MB C250 Coupe

Brad M

Quote from: Gary Pearce on October 12, 2011, 11:29:32 AMJust ask Grant Tander.
That would be Garth, I expect considering his recent victory at the mountain in the V8 SUPER "SEDAN TAXI" CARS.
06 147 JTD 1.9
76 116 GT 2.0
72 105 GTV 2.0

Gone... 2x 147 GTA, 2x 90, 2x SudSprint

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Neil Choi

Hi Gary

I know you are not being biased.

Neil

colcol

Not wishing to be a smarty pants, but i purchased some Mobil 1 yesterday from Repco and it was 5-50, i think the other Mobil 1 is 0-30 for some Japanese cars, i remember looking at the viscosity that i purchased it was 5-50, and i needed 10-60, so i will run it in winter, its a good price at Repco at the moment $50 for 5 litres, just don't run it for 20,000 klms, Colin.
1974 VW Passat [ist car] 1984 Alfa 33TI [daily driver] 2002 Alfa 156 JTS [daily driver]

Brad M

I'm currently using Mobil 1 15w50 in a 147GTA, I went this way Gary's recommendation (hope he got the commission).
06 147 JTD 1.9
76 116 GT 2.0
72 105 GTV 2.0

Gone... 2x 147 GTA, 2x 90, 2x SudSprint

Next? ... http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=17067

colcol

I just went and looked on my MOBIL 1 bottle and it said 5-50, not 15-50, is there a Mobil 1 that i don't know about as i have only seen 0-30 and 5-50, i am not trying to be a smarty pants, its just i have never seen 15-50, Colin.
1974 VW Passat [ist car] 1984 Alfa 33TI [daily driver] 2002 Alfa 156 JTS [daily driver]

Jekyll and Hyde

Quote from: colcol on October 13, 2011, 09:51:45 PM
I just went and looked on my MOBIL 1 bottle and it said 5-50, not 15-50, is there a Mobil 1 that i don't know about as i have only seen 0-30 and 5-50, i am not trying to be a smarty pants, its just i have never seen 15-50, Colin.

5 seconds on Google.

http://www.mobil1.com.au/products/index.aspx

Datso

Pennzoil Platinum is cheaper and just a good as Mobil 1.
Mobil one has the biggest oil company to sponsor everyone.
Both fine oils but PP gets my pick for price cant go wrong.

colcol

Have not seen Mobil 1 15-50 at my local Repco, looked up specs, seemed good for pushrod engines, but not recommended by as many car company's as Mobil 1 5-50, but it gets back to what i keep asking, how do you know what a good oil is, unless we are petroleum Scientists, Colin.
1974 VW Passat [ist car] 1984 Alfa 33TI [daily driver] 2002 Alfa 156 JTS [daily driver]

Gary Pearce

Hi Col, I'm happy to talk to you about it at Winton if you like. Mobil1 15w50 is the race spec oil as used in V8 Supercars etc etc and is only available on special orders in 20 litre drums. It is without question the best oil money can buy with plenty of scientific tests to back it up. A good website to gain an understanding of oils is 'engineoilbible.com' . The 5w50 Mobil1 oil from Repco will be perfect for your car, giving instant protection on start up and unlimited protection when hot. The 0w30 is for new model modern cars and the 0w40 was specified by Holden for their HSV cars and the like. I think you would have to use a zinc/phosphorus additive in the Penzoil to bring it up to the Mobil1 spec.
1966 Giulia GTC
1967 Giulia Sprint GT Veloce
1974 Metalic Green Montreal
1966 Giulia Super Blue
1980 Mazda B1800
1989 MX5
2013 MB C250 Coupe

alanm

Hi all,

For those of us on a budget, I wonder if it's better to change your oil with $40 Semi synthetic every 5000klms or change your $80 fully synthetic every 10,000 klms? I am going with the former option at the moment with my twin spark.

Al
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1986 GTV6 Grand Prix
1988 33