A few months back I restored some 4.5x15" rims for the Duetto and have been waiting for 155HR15 Pirelli Cinturato tyres to be made available. I'm pretty sure these were period correct for the early 105s with the Michelins available later.
Can anybody add any experience, advice or historical nuggets on the three choices available ??
Whilst period correct is kinda the aim, I also want to make a sensible choice.
1. Pirelli Cinturato
2. Michelin XAS FF
3. Verdestein classic (not original but cheaper)
I'll be importing unless anybody knows a local supplier (with stock) ?
Cheers
Craig
I saw a tyre seller display outside at the Melbourne Exhibition Buildings not long ago as part of the Motorclassica show and they had a large range of re-made historic tyres available. I have a brochure somewhere at home , however some time spent Googling should locate them eventually. I didnt enquire about price etc though, but they had tyres for all cars dating from 1920's to 60-70's etc so may be easier than importing and at least you can have a good look at them before purchase etc.
Craig - There's a vintage tyre mob in Heidelberg Victoria you can try.
Btw your package left today.
Craig, don't know whether this helps or not but original tyres on my 1900 Berlina were metric sized Michelin X and my local dealer can still supply! These were actually the first steel belted radial in the world. Original tyres on my 1968 Super were Pirelli Cinturato and I gather there maybe some expensive recreations still available. The first car I had Michelin XAS on was my 1974 Montreal and I think they were original.
So there you go!
Google up Longstone Tyre Supplies, UK. and get what you want, Michelin and Pirelli air freighted FREE to Australia,(set of four prefered).Read the fine print!!!!,MICHELIN tubes of the correct size if needed can be provided F.O.C. in the order if you order PIRELLI tyres,as the main request.A worthwhile request!Dunno how they can do that but they do! Don't forget to order your Free copy of Longstones naughty 1920's style repro girlie poster, just the thing for the Alfisti garage! I got a couple of 'em,it shows a nifty flapper in near naked poses with a real vintage Citroen. Don't all rush at once!!!!!!!!...............Cheers.
That's an awesome deal McAnnik!
http://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/
They'll do Michelin XAS 165HR14 for my 1750 GTV, landed in Australia for £526.00. That's impressive. I'm not buying just now, but will definitely consider this in the future.
cheers,
Evan.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/longstonetyres
Cheers guys,
It's Longstone I was talking too, they've just advised the Pirellis are available again and their simple delivered pricing is hard to beat. I guess my question goes to the tyres themselves, anybody driven on either - know the differences ?
I think I've already decided to go with the Cinturato, I'm developing a nice OEM OCD streak :)
Old post but rather than start a new one......I'm looking at new tyres for my 1970 gt junior (now with 2 litre nord). Currently has 195/70R 14's which are old and I think too wide for the car.
Originality would demand 165 but with a 2 litre I'm thinking 175's or 185's.
Are the CN 36 cinturato's worth the price ($306 each from stuckey's) or is a modern tyre of that profile the smart choice?
Any recommendation on a modern 165/175/185?
Thanks
Neil
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Quote from: McAnnik on July 10, 2012, 08:45:16 PM
Google up Longstone Tyre Supplies, UK {snip} Michelin and Pirelli air freighted FREE to Australia,(set of four prefered).
That's changed. Last time I looked (last year), they were very pricey on shipping (and that was without even looking at the price of the tyres!), and Dougal ignored my queries on the AlfaBB about why there was a massive step up in sipping cost between a set of Avon CR6ZZs and a set of Michelins in the same size.
I've sent an email to longstone, no reply yet
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Reply from longstone.
"Shipping would be £150.00 for a set of Pirelis, I would ask you to contact Stuckey Tyres also as they are our Autralian Pirelli Dealer."
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The only Australian supplier of Michelin classic tyres is Stuckey's at Brunswick.
If you want Pirelli you will need to ship them from UK, as Australian Dealers won't stock them.
Jeff from Stuckeys quoted me on pirelli's - said they are cheaper than Michelin XAS
$306 for a Pirelli 185/70 VR 14
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Quote from: Campbeli on July 26, 2019, 01:48:15 PM
Jeff from Stuckeys quoted me on pirelli's - said they are cheaper than Michelin XAS
$306 for a Pirelli 185/70 VR 14
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I just can't see the value in that, as much as I hate the current set of tires on my car.
I can't believe I asked this innocent question ten years ago.... restorations take a long time (in between life) :-[
Quote from: LaStregaNera on July 30, 2019, 10:23:49 AM
Quote from: Campbeli on July 26, 2019, 01:48:15 PM
Jeff from Stuckeys quoted me on pirelli's - said they are cheaper than Michelin XAS
$306 for a Pirelli 185/70 VR 14
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I just can't see the value in that, as much as I hate the current set of tires on my car.
Exactly what I'm wondering
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I have the XASs on my Giulia which i really like.
I'll be watching with interest, need to get 3 new sets in 13" for two Fiats and the alfasud. Much as I'd really like CN36s, I can't justify the expense.
I'm planning on going for Continental ContiEcoContact 3 in a 175/70R13 as they are cheap and cheerful (hopefully)!
Quote from: Craig_m67 on July 30, 2019, 05:43:58 PM
I can't believe I asked this innocent question ten years ago.... restorations take a long time (in between life) :-[
I can't believe we're all still here and haven't disappeared in some sort of holocaust. I'm amazed that 10 years on this internet thingy still works! :o
They are not Cinturatos though.
Buy the Michelins XAS
Quote from: spoynter on July 31, 2019, 04:28:37 PM
I'll be watching with interest, need to get 3 new sets in 13" for two Fiats and the alfasud. Much as I'd really like CN36s, I can't justify the expense.
I'm planning on going for Continental ContiEcoContact 3 in a 175/70R13 as they are cheap and cheerful (hopefully)!
What ever you do, don't buy Falken RE712s - they're effing terrible in the wet - it's like I have 500hp. Stupid "Eco Tyre" crap.
Quote from: LaStregaNera on August 02, 2019, 08:42:02 AM
What ever you do, don't buy Falken RE712s - they're effing terrible in the wet - it's like I have 500hp. Stupid "Eco Tyre" crap.
I've got Falkens on the 124 coupe - I've never liked them!
So, has anyone invested in the vintage tyres? How do they go and how do they compare to modern "eco" tyres available for 14 inch rims?
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I bought vredestein sprint classic tyres from antique tyres in Heidelberg for my Fulvia. A great period tyre in the right size. I suspect you'll be able to find a size for the 105
Quote from: Campbeli on August 08, 2019, 07:25:48 PM
So, has anyone invested in the vintage tyres? How do they go and how do they compare to modern "eco" tyres available for 14 inch rims?
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The CN36s are supposed to be very good, but at $300+ a corner, I can almost put 2 sets of Falken RT615Ks on the car.
I like the Xas Michelins i have on my Giulia Super, but they are very expensive
Quote from: rowan_bris on August 09, 2019, 12:00:03 PM
I like the Xas Michelins i have on my Giulia Super, but they are very expensive
What width are you running?
How would you rate road noise?
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They are 165s and super quiet