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State Divisions => New South Wales => Topic started by: alfagtv58 on October 23, 2007, 11:45:17 AM

Title: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: alfagtv58 on October 23, 2007, 11:45:17 AM
Thought I would kick NSW Board off ;D

Wakefield FoSC was held on the weekend, there were 20 Alfa's entered, and the Continental Capers races were a lot of fun, although there were about 4 Porsches and one (quick) Fiat 124 the rest of the field were Alfa's, congrats to Peter Tillet who put a good move on Bill Magoffin to take out the honours.  Personally I didnt have the best weekend, a bit of damage done in the first Group S race.....and I struggled with the Wakefield circuit, I felt slow.  A good excuse to get back next September for the Veloce Racing Assoc "East Coast Challenge" between QLD, NSW and VIC.
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: alfagtv58 on October 23, 2007, 12:17:47 PM
Sorry, I should ammend my previous comment.....From a competition/racing point of view the weekend wasnt that good.  From a social point of view I had a ball, both fellow Alfisti and family/friends.  We caught up with family for dinner on Friday night and more family come out to see us on Saturday at the track, all the Alfisti from the VRA got together for dinner on Saturday night (a good night too) and we spent Sunday night in Canberra with some friends!!
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Scott Farquharson on October 23, 2007, 01:28:01 PM
Who hit you?
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: alfagtv58 on October 23, 2007, 03:41:04 PM
I stuffed it up the inside of a 240Z into turn one, but when I gassed it up coming out of the corner I looped it and he had nowhere to go and his drivers side glanced my drivers side.....as a consequence he DNF'd and I finished "stone motherless last"!!!!!
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Fast Eddie on October 23, 2007, 09:02:52 PM
excellent badge of courage Phil.
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Scott Farquharson on October 24, 2007, 07:59:29 AM
Excellent!  Is this your first "touch up" or "racing incident"?

rubbing = racing
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: alfagtv58 on October 24, 2007, 08:50:29 AM
Quote from: Scott Farquharson on October 24, 2007, 07:59:29 AM
Excellent!  Is this your first "touch up" or "racing incident"?

rubbing = racing

I am embarrassed to say no, I 'rubbed' the back of Nittis' GT350 at Winton earlier this year. :-[  I dont think its all that excellent, to me rubbing = $$$$

On another note, I dropped my car off to Hugh and said someone stole some horsepower, it just doesn't feel the same.  He rang me last night to tell me I was only getting about 3/4 throttle :o  Stating the obvious, but maybe this is why I felt so damn slow the last two weekends!

Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Paul Newby on October 25, 2007, 03:47:25 PM
As I'm probably the only NSW person on the Vic Forum I should contribute to the only thread that's listed on the new NSW Forum...  :)

Also, as I was there at the Wakefield FOSC I can legitimately contribute.

Having heard on the grapvine about these super Group S Alfettas, I was thinking I would have my doors blown off by Phil, but that wasn't the case! Was it really a throttle problem Phil?

I had a frantic qualifying session whereby I ran out of fuel mid-session and had to go into the pits for a top-up. The fact that I managed to go back out and set my fastest ever lap at Wakefield was something of a surprise, as it was a bit slippery out there. That 4.3 diff does make a difference! Like Phil, I managed to spin at Turn 2 of the first Group Sc race, but this was on the first lap, having got a great start and keeping those dreaded Zs behind me. Luckily I didn't get hit. For the second Group Sc race I made a great start (on the restart - after John P's blow up, my first start was a real shocker) and went down the outside of everyone into Turn 2. It took me three attempts to finally get past Lloyd Hughes in his genuine Porsche Carrera RS - how I didn't hit the most expensive ($300K) car in the field I don't know... No one else made it past Lloyd, but I think his cage was sufficiently rattled that he drove it home shortly afterwards!

Both Continental Caper races were good fun and I managed to keep some faster Alfas behind me in the first race, but they got past me in the second race. Good clean racing, but I always seem to go backwards in these races - must be my "little" 1.8 engine.

My final race was a Group S race and again I went backwards. This time I had Norm Singleton in the second most valuable Group S car, a Fiat 124 Abarth Rallye go around me on the outside of me through the fast Turn 1 kink. He cut across, and how we didn't touch I will never know. It caused me to have a moment - having the back step out in an Alfetta at 150km/h is a real heartstopper...  :o

Anyhow it was a great meeting for VRA and Alfa, both socially and competitively. There were a total of 7 Group S Alfas including 4 Alfettas plus one (Danny Gatto's) who didn't get his car logged in time. Up here we have another three Group S Alfettas out there not doing much at present and another couple running in supersprints that could make the jump up to Group S soon. Here's hoping.
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Scott Farquharson on October 26, 2007, 09:01:05 AM
Quote from: Phil Baskett on October 24, 2007, 08:50:29 AM
Quote from: Scott Farquharson on October 24, 2007, 07:59:29 AM
Excellent!  Is this your first "touch up" or "racing incident"?

rubbing = racing

I am embarrassed to say no, I 'rubbed' the back of Nittis' GT350 at Winton earlier this year. :-[  I dont think its all that excellent, to me rubbing = $$$$

On another note, I dropped my car off to Hugh and said someone stole some horsepower, it just doesn't feel the same.  He rang me last night to tell me I was only getting about 3/4 throttle :o  Stating the obvious, but maybe this is why I felt so damn slow the last two weekends!


Yes, the panel damage does hurt the wallet.

But you must admit 2 pretty good "racing incidents"

As to the throttle, that just really sucks but does explain a lot.
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Alistair Liles on October 26, 2007, 05:27:08 PM
Paul, you're not the only NSW one on the forum...

I've been lurking for a while but have plucked up the courage to join.  I have been scared the Paul will bag me out because i don't have a Group S car.

Anyway, bad luck for JP last weekend.  Good lap time Paul.  Danny's car looks great.  I came across it on the M5 while going home on Sunday.  We had 2 red GTV's, one on the road and one on the trailer

Regards
Alistair
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: alfagtv58 on October 29, 2007, 08:37:09 AM
Welcome Alistair, great to have you on board!!
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Paul Newby on October 30, 2007, 10:30:26 AM
Hi Alistair, welcolme aboard.

And no I won't bag you out because you already have a Group S car, it just needs a roll cage and an external cut-out switch and it's there. Too easy. :)
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Scott Farquharson on October 30, 2007, 10:44:20 AM
Hi Alistair,

Welcome also.  Sounds like you already have a Group S car.......it has become an irrisistable force...resistance is futile..
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: John A Pucak on October 30, 2007, 08:51:27 PM
Hi folks, Im new to the forum. My name is John Pucak, some of you might know my cars.
I am the proud owner of aGroup S Alfetta GT( she threw a rod out the side at Wakefield)
I am also lucky enough to be the original owner of 1985 GTV 2.0.
Come on Alister get that cage put in your car, and come out racing
John
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Scott Farquharson on October 31, 2007, 09:52:34 AM
Welcome John, great to see you on the forum.  Love to have your views on the many Group S topics in the Group S section as well.
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Enforcer on November 07, 2007, 01:47:27 PM
Is this only for Group S punters or can blokes who prefer VB and sausages (Group N) join in?

Regds

Bill
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: alfagtv58 on November 07, 2007, 02:57:40 PM
Welcome Bill, group N punters are always welcome, regardless of what people are saying about the riff raff Group N produce ;)

So if the Group N boys prefer VB and sausages....what is it Group S partake in, Apertiffs and Sauvignon Blanc?
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Enforcer on November 07, 2007, 03:34:32 PM
I think us Alfa steerers are collectively the Chardonnay Racers, but you would have to ask Paul, he was the one who dubbed me a lover of beer and snags!

Regds

Bill
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Paul Newby on November 08, 2007, 01:05:42 PM
I know that Bill loves a beer and a snag. But he also likes quaffing Chardonnay, like he did to excess at Sandown back in 2003. He usually races better when he's had a skinful of Chardy too, hey Bill...  ;D

As long as Bill races an Alfa in Group N then we will hold off on the beer and snags references. If he starts racing a Capri, or dare we say a Mustang then it's Game On  >:(

Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Evan Bottcher on November 08, 2007, 01:45:47 PM
Totally off-topic... would the VRA like a dedicated board on this forum?  We share a lot of members.

Your current yahoo mailing list works good so no reason to change unless you want to, just let me know if you'd like one.

cheers,
Lefty.
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Scott Farquharson on November 08, 2007, 02:04:21 PM
Hey Bill, why don't you buy my Group C GTV6....
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Enforcer on November 08, 2007, 02:59:46 PM
Evan-no need for separate VRA board here they serve different purposes and this area highlights what us VRA racers have in common with other club members..

Scott, you know you should not be parting with that car don't you?

Regds

Bill
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: vin sharp on November 08, 2007, 10:16:48 PM
Quote from: Enforcer on November 08, 2007, 02:59:46 PM
Evan-no need for separate VRA board here they serve different purposes and this area highlights what us VRA racers have in common with other club members..

Scott, you know you should not be parting with that car don't you?

Regds

Bill
Hi Bill good to see you here!
Scott, 
Bills right, you will regret it.
Bill now owns a gpC 105 that I once owned, but.....    Note to self: kick yourself again!
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: alfagtv58 on November 09, 2007, 06:19:45 PM
Love the Avatar Bill!!
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: AndrewO on November 10, 2007, 08:38:59 AM
Hi,

If you'll take people that eat sausages and VB how about people who don't know what they want to eat?

I bought a ratty old 105 just over a year ago and soon realised I was in over my head.  Then I took it to a super sprint and despite going either slow or backwards I was hooked.  Now the suspension is decent I'm starting to drive it instead of just hanging on but the engine is old and tired.  Hopefully it might be log booked as group Sb by the end of the year, but it will stay road registered as well.

But....  I've heard about you group "S" for Sycho drivers and after seeing Phil's car (and hearing of Spencer's rocket being shunted) I'm not sure I want to take the plunge (or if after just one year I could even get close to you guys).  I might try a FoSC regularity next year just to see how it all goes.

I've also heard the comptetion CAMS license is pretty tough to keep (I only have 2S) and you can't just do a meeting or two but need to do a lot of races to first get off your P's and then to keep it.  I can't find the details on the CAMS web site.

Is there an easy (and cheaper) way to get the feel for a race meeting without going through the bump and grind?

Bill, Is there any truth to the rumour that VRA is holding an open day at Wakefield early next year, I haven't heard anything official from the VRA group?  I think that would be a great day and I would book in.

Andrew
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Enforcer on November 10, 2007, 10:07:54 AM
Andrew,

Good to hear you have the bug...CAMS licence is not as hard as it can be made out. Just get involved and go with the flow, it will all come together even though it seems a little daunting at first. There are plenty of blokes who have been around a while that can give you a hand.

Yes, VRA Drive day is at Wakefield Friday February 15, message went out to the VRA list on Oct 12 with 2008 dates and details..

Regds

Bill
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: AndrewO on November 10, 2007, 02:51:18 PM
Bill,

I double checked my mail and there were a couple I missed reading and that was one of them.  I now have it in my diary and I'll be there on the 15th. 

Thanks

Andrew
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Scott Farquharson on November 12, 2007, 09:37:16 AM
Yes, I know, if there was another way I probably wouldn't....
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: len105 on June 16, 2008, 09:58:36 PM
So that's it Phil - now we know why you were sooooo incredibly quick at Bathurst at Easter !!!

The full throttle definately made a difference !!!!

Len
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: John A Pucak on June 17, 2008, 08:49:51 PM
Hi Len , how are the repairs coming along with that 105
Cheers Hollywood
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: len105 on June 20, 2008, 05:20:02 PM
And then there's 'hollywood' - another one who has recently discovered full throttle !!

The repairs are..........how do you say............being attended to in due course........what a bummer !!
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: John A Pucak on June 20, 2008, 09:12:48 PM
Hi len105, I always knew about WOT(wide open throttle). But didn't realize that an Alfetta is amuch better
handling car than a 105, until you pointed it out to me in the esses at Oran last weekend . Is your 105 at Tony
Palace's?. Cheers Hollywood
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: len105 on June 21, 2008, 05:18:23 PM
As I mentioned previously Mr Hollywood, the Alfetta is such a better balanced chassis & therefore a better handling unit, than the much older technology 105's etc .......

Dr Tony will be offering his opinion on how to fix 'the hole at the front' soonest..........

Len
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: alfagtv58 on June 23, 2008, 10:23:42 AM
Hi Len105, I recently heard about your Oran Park experience.....sorry to hear, hope it gets back to it's former glory soon.  As for the handling debate, there is nothing quite like the rear end handling of a 105....I love it (and miss it!)

Cheers,
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: Simon Bidese on June 23, 2008, 10:26:25 AM
Phil, looking at the photo on your AVTAR looks like u enjoy handing out the rear end on the Group S Alfetta!!!!
Title: Re: Wakefield FoSC
Post by: alfagtv58 on June 23, 2008, 02:35:38 PM
Quote from: Simon Bidese on June 23, 2008, 10:26:25 AM
Phil, looking at the photo on your AVTAR looks like u enjoy handing out the rear end on the Group S Alfetta!!!!

hehe, old habbits die hard ;D