I am pleased to advise that AROCA (Vic) annual Spettacolo 2011 Concourse and Show'n Shine is now confirmed and will be held at a new location on Sunday 30th October 2011.
The address is:
Wesley College Front Oval
577 St Kilda Road
Melbourne, 3004.
Start Time:9.00 am, Judging at 11.00 am. Awards presentation 1.00pm.
The event has been run most successfully over the years and we now expect up to 250 Alfa Romeo's to be present on the field. Following last years Centenary and the popular '100 Year Walk through History', we again expect and look forward to viewing a selection of historic vintage and classic cars displayed by many interstate AROCA members. This year we will have maximum exposure on one of Melbourne's premium boulevards with a larger field giving us a the opportunity for a higher quality display.
Accordingly, the Club invites interstate members to participate and we even have a Show 'n Shine prize for the best vehicle displayed by an interstate member. We again will be holding a Spettacolo Dinner on the night before to welcome interstate and country members, judges and friends to Melbourne. This adds to the enthusiasm and makes for a rewarding weekend.
This years theme will be a 'Celebration of Open top Motoring' and this will cover some great designs over time. A similar historical walk will be held featuring the development of the Tourers and Spiders over time.
So we look forward to an interesting display of Spiders in addition to all the other valued cars displayed on the field.
This year we will meet our regional members so it is a change for the Victorian Club to get together.
Also interstate members are welcome to come to Melbourne for a rewarding weekend with other Alfisti !
If you have any queries, please do not hesitate to contact me direct on 0409-961-719.
More details will be provided in due course.
The site is confirmed.
Looks great. We will have a few extra options here with better displays, more exhibitors and services on site.
Besides a Historic Display of open Top Motoring - we expect a few interstate visitors with notable cars and a hospitality tent set up by our rehional Alpine Chapter.
Keen interest has already been expressed in attending the Historic and Concorso Dinner the night before.
The only car we are missing is an ES30 - RZ - any one know of one being imported in the near future ?
Two possible Settacolo additions:
- Car Boot Sale Arena for Club members.
- Car Sales (as per vehicle class on field).
A fee would be charged for the opportunity.
Cheers
this is melbourne cup weekend isn't it?
Dang. thats gonna cut the numbers.
Well, a lot is happening in Melbourne that long weekend but that should just add to the excitement.
We may actually get a few more interstate guests who are down for the Cup and visiting family.
Derby Day Sat, Melb Cup Tue, Spettacolo Sun. There'll be more horses on Sun!!
I am interested in the boot sale, will this be like the boot sales you see at school fetes, it will be like a swap meet for Italian cars, how much will it cost to be to be a seller at the new Spectacolo?, and do i have to book?, or do i just turn up on the day?, Colin.
Colin, how aboyut something like this....
Indications to date of possible Spettacolo additions:
1. Car Boot Sale $20 per car - have Club 'bargain line'.
2. Cars for Sale $20 per car - have them dispersed on the field with usual registers.
Let's see how we go.
how about free for financial club members and
Quote from: John Hanslow on September 06, 2011, 12:54:26 PM
1. Car Boot Sale $20 per car - have Club 'bargain line'.
2. Cars for Sale $20 per car - have them dispersed on the field with usual registers.
for non-members.....
Note> I have nothing to sell at Spettacolo, I just think this is the sort of thing that should be one of the benefits of being a financial club member.
Quote from: alfagtv58 on September 06, 2011, 01:00:28 PM
Note> I have nothing to sell at Spettacolo, I just think this is the sort of thing that should be one of the benefits of being a financial club member.
I second that.
I agree that it should be free for financial members.
We occasionally had "for sale" signs on cars and I do not believe that we charged for it.
20 bucks may be little bit rich though, maybe $5 or $10 would be enough.
I also agree that absolutely no commercial outfits should be allowed unless they are sponsors of the event.
$20 per car and boot sale, cheaper than listing on ebay, and you might go home with a pocket full of money and all your goods sold, Colin.
Thanks for the update John - and thanks for helping organise it. I look forward to being at the new venue.
Richard
Thanks gents, will be finalising plans, protocols etc tonight at the club committee meeting.
Then post it on the web.
Richard, last year we had 85 entrants in Wash'n Shine. This year we are looking at 100 as a target !!!
So we want old cars (101, 102 & 105 series) and new cars - also 916 Spiders, 939 series sedan, coupe and spider.
Also new class for modified cars. We had one 159 previously.
Lets make this years event a great year !
Errrr....club meet next week mate
yep - committee meeting for me last night and club night for members next week.
$60 to sell your car on carsales, $20 at Spectacolo, how cheap do you want it?, some people go to Spectacolo for one reason, to buy or sell a car, i know because i talk to people there and they ask me do you know anyone who wants to sell or buy an xyz, we don't want Spectacolo to be a drain on the clubs finances, the hiring of the grounds doesn't come cheap, user pays, whats wrong with that?, Colin.
colcol, nothing wrong with that. But my point (probably not well made) was simply financial members should see some benefit with this type of thing, if the club wants to use this as a revenue stream (or cost recovery), fine, but offer a discount to the membership. And you are correct, lots of people go to Spettacolo to buy/sell, it has never attracted a fee in the past (members or not).
Anyway, we elect a committee to make these sorts of decisions, its not up to us keyboard warriors.
Back to topic, looking forward to the new venue. Bigger and better! Great work John, no doubt you have lifted this event over the last few years!
Quote from: alfagtv58 on September 09, 2011, 01:29:23 PM
Anyway, we elect a committee to make these sorts of decisions, its not up to us keyboard warriors.
.. and they make those decisions based on what they think members want, so I don't see the problem on expressing your view.
Quote from: colcol on September 09, 2011, 11:30:23 AM
$60 to sell your car on carsales, $20 at Spectacolo
I think that breaks down to;
- Advertise the car on carsales for $60 until it's sold... this is on a site we all recommend when someone lands on the forum looking for a car to buy.
- To put a sign in your car's window while on display for $20 for a few hours to people looking to buy a car, who have probably already checked carsales.
I know which way I'd go.
Hi,
We discussed the issue of people wanting to sell their cars at Spettacolo on Wednesday at the Commitee meeting. Very clearly, there is no charge for anyone who would like to put a shingle up on their car at Spettacolo.
The car boot sale option: Given we have now upgraded to a brilliant site with more room and ammenities, John is considering partioning an area specifically for car boot sellers and charging them a nominal fee for the day.
I hope that provides some clarity on this issue.
Best Regards
Phil
Secretary AROCA Vic. Inc.
Riding on the coat tails of clarity ... There are a few simple issues here.
I believe there should be a structure and a culture where we get Spettacolo to fund itself like the 6 hour. Unfortunately Car Displays and Concorso are a different kettle of fish to a the competition series in place. So that is just a thought and not a reality today.
It was a thought that to increase revenue raising in making each segment pay for itself - and on the face of it charging a fee for car boot sale and selling a car seemed a reasonable solution.
The reality is that we struggle to get volunteers to judge, manage gate and field and parking control and its just not fun at all.
So to keep it simple, a decision was very recently made to not charge a fee on due to control issues.
Accordingly and more importantly the boot and car sales opportunity is something that we give our members free of charge. So in this modern e-world we can use this as a positive so at Spettacolo being a free event for all and a few bonus options that we give our members and create a positive thru the simple practical side of things.
That creates real value for the club and its members !
Quote from: John Hanslow on September 07, 2011, 01:15:48 PM
Richard, last year we had 85 entrants in Wash'n Shine. This year we are looking at 100 as a target !!!
So we want old cars (101, 102 & 105 series) and new cars - also 916 Spiders, 939 series sedan, coupe and spider.
Ok so if my entire family brought their cars to the show and shine that would be 4, richard can bring his 4 cars so that totals to 8 cars from 2 people. Add in the numerous cars that members own it should easily get 100 cars. Trouble is trying to get everyone to come on the day.
Hi AROCA VIC friends,
what is the feeling towards interstate cars being there? - to be honest it is a very long shot but I am tempted to bring a car from Sydney. So far I have been lucky enough to convince the wife and two kids for a weekend away, the car might be a stretch.
Either way I am looking forward to meeting some of the characters on this forum and seeing some lovely cars.
Emmanuel
Quote from: EZEE on September 14, 2011, 09:18:13 PM
Hi AROCA VIC friends,
what is the feeling towards interstate cars being there? - to be honest it is a very long shot but I am tempted to bring a car from Sydney. So far I have been lucky enough to convince the wife and two kids for a weekend away, the car might be a stretch.
Either way I am looking forward to meeting some of the characters on this forum and seeing some lovely cars.
Emmanuel
EZEE - I think Phil Nash answered your question in the other thread, but just to confirm in this thread.....YES, all visitors most welcome, the more the merrier!
Yep, all interstate Alfisti welcome.
I have a Wash'n Shine award for the interstate club members too as all AROCA club members were invited to attend.
After all it's the Melbourne Cup weekend so while some may be away, this will balance out with interstate participants visiting family, going to the Cup or more realistically, going to Spettacolo.
Don't forget to book accommodation asap.
I would be happy paying $20 to sell my car on the day. Do I need to contact someone or just turn up?
Hi Steve. There is no cost to members or non-members to put a "for sale" sign up on there Alfa at Spettacolo.
Best Regards
Phil Nash
Secretary AROCA Victoria Inc.
Hi Guys,
I am coming down! the family is booked (accom. wasn't easy) and I am looking forward to meeting you all. Thank you for the encouragment. Looking forward to it.
Doesn't look like I will bring the 2600 though, Phil, apologies in advance.
Cheers
EZEE
Would l be able to bring my Ute to the outside of the show and bring my Alfa parts in my shed to sell, I am an club member and happy to forward the costs of having a table or back of Ute. Sorry my Alfas in the the shed being worked on so I cannot bring her to the Show Thank you Jason Read
I have allways wanted to enter my Giulietta in a Spettacolo, but i am moving into my 1st home that weekend.
Wah'n Sine Entry form for reference
so for non-members how does it work? just roll your alfa onto the grass?
show-n-shine and concorso only open to members?
Class V - visitors, non-members.
Hi chaps,
I'm hoping to see if I can wangle the assistance of any NSW member heading down to the Spettacolo. One of the guys in Vic (who will be attending the event) is off loading a 116 AC unit to me, and I was hoping to see if someone could help out in collecting it for transporting back to Sydney. I would then collect from transporter's address or otherwise?
If anybody can help, please PM me. I'm awaiting photos of what will be coming (I expect - condensor, compressor, tubing, brackets and other smaller stuff). I'd also ask to have the items well covered/packed to minimise damage/soiling of your motor...
Any help appreciated. Understandable if not forth coming.
Thanks in advance. 8)
PM sent
Apologies if this was asked elsewhere, but is there room for tow cars and trailers at the new venue?
Quote from: Martinsifredi on October 25, 2011, 09:12:50 PM
ps : it should not be a problem fro trailers , I am preparing a "map" as per the one that was done for COMO park layout so I will be checking on the drawing to see how much trailer space is available .
Thanks guys ,
Martin
just gotta put my opinion in for the choice of timing...
pretty f-ing crap.
6 of us were coming down this year, 3 cars, untill we couldnt get accom' for a reasonable price, then along with everything else that happens on this long weekend, i doubt if any of us are even going anymore [maybe 3 of us in 1 car, but the skyline nationals are on too, in shep]. next year ill book accom' months ahead if i can, or as soon as a date is confirmed.
shame, i look forwards to this every year, being the only event by the alfa club i attend [not ready for track days, yet], but i guess thats the weight of my opinion too.
but if we do come down, dad is happy to volunteer for a judging place, he's done it once before a few years ago, but few people didnt like his choice from what i heard in crowd at announcments, based on condition of the whole car as per the list handed to him, and not just scoring to keep people happy. if i remember correctly, one guy with a near perfectly original car was pissed/annoyed, but dad marked him down for crash damage that had been repaired poorly and showed in the engine bay, panel alignment, and even the windscreen didnt fit right [even i noticed it myself]. pretty discouraging to do it really :-\
oh well, might see you guys, might not, it'll be fun without me im sure!
To the committee and John Hanslow,
I am a new member (paid up) who just bought an Alfa 156, not new to Alfa's.
I will congratulate in advance John and the crew on all the hard work that have been done and will be done on the weekend to make the annual Spettacolo a marvelous event. I know what you go through in terms of organization and getting dates, I sit on a committee and I learnt you can't please everybody, and for every negative, you get 100 positives.
Ciao
Quote from: jazig.k on October 28, 2011, 12:45:19 PM
oh well, might see you guys, might not, it'll be fun without me im sure!
Got that bit right!
Have a great day everyone! Sad I'm missing my second one in a row - working in morning and 6 year old daughter's dance concert in afternoon.
Alright, see you guys on Sunday. I hope the weather holds up!
Quote from: hotalfa156 on October 28, 2011, 03:12:16 PM
To the committee and John Hanslow,
I am a new member (paid up) who just bought an Alfa 156, not new to Alfa's.
I will congratulate in advance John and the crew on all the hard work that have been done and will be done on the weekend to make the annual Spettacolo a marvelous event. I know what you go through in terms of organization and getting dates, I sit on a committee and I learnt you can't please everybody, and for every negative, you get 100 positives.
Ciao
Well said :)
Quote from: jazig.k on October 28, 2011, 12:45:19 PM
just gotta put my opinion in for the choice of timing...
pretty f-ing crap.
A bit unfair I would say. But entitled to your opinion. Please help out if you can. Another Alfa on the field is most welcome.
See you all there if you can.
Cheers all
Neil
just came back from it...
good show guys - well organised as always and good to see some tents up, koni was cool, don't think i've seen that before!\
classic spettacolo weather ;D
Some special appearances at Spettacolo today -
Good day considering the weather.
Gotta note during the presentations it was overheard someone expressing a belief that there is no point entering (assuming Show n Shine or Corcorso) if you're not in some boys club, or mates with the committee.
I'm staggered, but then again they are probably the type of person that is only happy playing solo handball.
To John Hanslow, great new venue and I look forward to the next one with better weather.
PS: Hope we get invited back to the venue after the 8C shrieking it's way down St Kilda road, reminds me of a 3.2l GTA of a few years back, not the best example of our club to the greater community.
Quote from: Victor Lee on October 30, 2011, 06:37:09 PM
Some special appearances at Spettacolo today -
The old/classic/rare vs the new!!!!!
Pretty good showing despite the undecided weather.
John, you need me to organize your Spettacolo, at least I get the weather right for the sprints :D :D :D
Quote from: Brad M on October 30, 2011, 06:54:17 PM
if you're not in some boys club, or mates with the committee.
What boys club? Where is it, I would like to join. But aren't we all a bunch of girls, then again, I have no mates and I didn't enter show and shine or concorso. But I am on the committee!!!!
Neil
The show was great even with the ordinary weather
ps. Thanks for having the jumping castle and the face painter. it kept my 3 kids entertained while I had a good look at the cars on display. Haven't been able to that for a few years now. Thank you
Great turn out of cars considering the weather.
A BIG Thank you to those who put this together. I wasn't able to stay long but great cars, people and a fantastic venue.
PS best get a different mobile coffee guy for next year, that was the worst service I've ever seen. >:(
Considering the elements it would also be good if some stalls sold umbrellas ;D
Quote from: Brad M on October 30, 2011, 06:54:17 PM
Gotta note during the presentations it was overheard someone expressing a belief that there is no point entering (assuming Show n Shine or Corcorso) if you're not in some boys club, or mates with the committee.
I recall judging a wash and shine category a few years back and afterwards being accused of being corrupt, which pissed me off immensely. It's attitudes like this that make me quite angry, when I know the large effort that volunteers put in to make days like today a success.
My thanks go to all the organisers and volunteers - a great day despite the weather.
I heard that the Maserati Car Club had their president's day event at the Studley Park Boat House at 10.00am, so I made my way to Wesley via there.
Attendance at Studley Park; nil.
By the time I got to Spettacolo there would have been nearly 100 cars?
That is what makes Alfa Romeo owners so special.
A fantastic turn out, a great venue, and some beautiful cars magnificently presented.
The organizers and the participants should all be congratulated.
Although the 8C may have been a little naughty, what an amazing sound!
Many thanks to the organizers, amazed we had so many cars turn up today given the weather and if the weather was half decent it would have been an awesome day. Just to counter a previous comment, this was my first time that I have turned up to Spettacolo, and first time that my 105 was actually driven in the wet. Importantly I do not know any members with the exception of a friend who has recently joined to get a club permit for his GTV6 and suggested I bring my car along. We are definitely not part of the Alfa Club establishment and to my surprise my Silver 105 won a show and shine. Not sure how the judging takes place as their were some seriously exceptional 105's but given the weather etc I thought it was a good turn out and a great day. Thanks to those involved.
I will put my hand up!
I am on the committee and won a show and shine award - class B.
But, my car was the only entry for that class!
Got to be in it to win it! ;D
Thanks to John Hanslow and everyone on the Spettacolo organizing team, despite the weather and a few technical hiccups it was quite a good day. The weather conditions gave me an interesting photography challenge :D
Best part of the day for me was just catching up with everyone and meeting some new faces :) there is nothing quite like spending a whole day at an AROCA event!
Thanks 8)
Couldn't make it due to work committments but managed to drop by very late in the day.
The new setting is fantastic and the set up look a treat.
Well done to all who helped with the organisation - wouldn't have been easy first up at the new venue and the weather on the day!
Hopefully will be there with my car next year.
Cheers & Well done to all.
Paul.
Great day and and a pretty decent turnout, proving the weather wasn't a deterent.
Really like the venue the grass is so perfect I was worried my Alfetta's gearbox leak was going
to spoil it !
Good to catch up with new & old faces. It feels really good to park an Alfa on the grass again.
Congrats to John and all the others involved, a well organised and enjoyable event
Well Done
I would like to congratulate John and the Team for organizing a great Spettacolo. :)
You will always have someone complaining about something :'(
Had a great time ,Keep up the great work.
Again the Alfa Club has put on a great day. ;)
Another vote of thanks from me. Been to Spettacolo every year since 04 I think, bit this year I bought the family with me, the jumping castle, face painting & balloon things were a hit with the kids. Thanks to those that volunteered on the day in some ordinary conditions!
Great new venue, trailer parking is an issue though...
Shame the 8c driver made us all look like buffoons :-\
Great venue, loved the grass which soaked up all that rain without turning to mud with all the cars.
I quite enjoyed the 8C giving everyone a bit of a show. An extremely rare exotic with the best exhaust note on the planet. If that cannot be enjoyed then it's quite disappointing.
Quote from: maurizio on October 31, 2011, 12:35:41 PM
Great venue, loved the grass which soaked up all that rain without turning to mud with all the cars.
I quite enjoyed the 8C giving everyone a bit of a show. An extremely rare exotic with the best exhaust note on the planet. If that cannot be enjoyed then it's quite disappointing.
The problem is not with us enthusiasts enjoying it, the issue is with the general public not enjoying it. And unfortunately, there are a great number of the general public who have absolutely no interest in cars, and would rather they went away. The residents who object to having the F1's running near their houses is a great example of that. I wasn't there, so I don't know what the driver of the 8C did or didn't do, but if it was pulling a few revs and generally making a lot of noise, that tends to give those objectors a good bit of ammunition.
The noise itself wasn't too over the top, I think it was more the 160km/h down St Kilda Rd that people would be more upset about. Stupid thing to do right outside a car show.
And on a cold engine. :o
Quote from: Sheldon McIntosh on October 31, 2011, 10:03:15 PM
The noise itself wasn't too over the top, I think it was more the 160km/h down St Kilda Rd that people would be more upset about. Stupid thing to do right outside a car show.
Hoon law comes to mind. Impound is 30 days isn't it.......... interesting scenario if busted
Gives a rather bad impression to the general public
Quote from: Sheldon McIntosh on October 31, 2011, 10:03:15 PM
The noise itself wasn't too over the top, I think it was more the 160km/h down St Kilda Rd that people would be more upset about. Stupid thing to do right outside a car show.
And on trade plates
And with his young kid in the car...
If anyone wants to buy it after all that, it's on here.... http://maranellomotorsport.com.au/inventory/road-cars/ (http://maranellomotorsport.com.au/inventory/road-cars/) Only $599,000!! Not bad for a car that can't be registered.
Quote from: Sheldon McIntosh on October 31, 2011, 10:03:15 PM
The noise itself wasn't too over the top, I think it was more the 160km/h down St Kilda Rd that people would be more upset about.
I concur - I really liked the little blip of noise up to the corner, but winced when he took off up St Kilda Rd. Definitely not a good look.
But hey - as I'm sure the driver will read this, very much appreciated bringing the car along for the day it really turned heads and was a real treat. I'd just like you to bring it to Phillip Island for some parade laps, rather than lapping St Kilda Rd.
+1 Thank you for bringing the car along. It is the only opportunity most of us will have to see one. Great if you can bring the car for parade laps at an Alfa Sprint day at Phillip Island or Sandown etc.
Quote from: Phil Nash on November 01, 2011, 05:11:30 PM
+1 Thank you for bringing the car along. It is the only opportunity most of us will have to see one. Great if you can bring the car for parade laps at an Alfa Sprint day at Phillip Island or Sandown etc.
+1 was great to see and would love to hear it at the island.
Finally got home to Sydney no thanks to Qantas - thank you Virgin.....wanted to post earlier but just got the chance now.....
Fantastic Melbourne Alfisti! A great event and a job well done to all who worked hard to put it on. I know how hard it is to organise a day like that, so hats off to all of you.
I must admit I was wondering how you Melbourne people were so confident it would "clear up later" when I arrived so early and it was pouring with rain but there you go. Truly sensational to see so many cars when the day starts like this weather wise. Great call on the food selection and coffee and while I didn't use the jumping castle many tiny ones did so clearly another hit there. The venue - wow! some backdrop to the lawn that felt like carpet.......nice, very nice.
Wife, kids and local friends enjoyed the day out as well to top it off. I mean they really had fun! getting them to leave the hotel room wasn't easy but once there they got into the spirit, my daughter in ALFA gear - priceless....(see attached jpeg as proof!).......Thank you for making us feel welcome. I tried to introduce myself to many of you and say thanks for the constant words of wisdom and advice but I kept getting pulled back to the cars so the day went very fast and I missed some of you. Thank you to Barry at the club shop for stocking us up! Once again thanks Phil - still cannot believe the drive. Cheers to David from Tassie for words of encouragement and knowledge.
My favourites? Phil's Spider was a revelation, just gorgeous - thank you for the honour of the drive, I owe you big time: nice to see a GTC in good condition in the flesh - lines are a lot better than I remember; how come there are so many Giulia Supers down there? they just get better with age, would love one for the collection; Montreals are uber cool in any decade: 116 GTVs (the car to have as I got my license early 80's) are ageing well, looking great actually; so many spiders....all cool; 105 GTV - just timeless classic shape and design: oh yeah the 8C - it was very nice of him to make the effort so thank you no matter what speed you took off at, it was a joy to see the car there: if I didn't mention your car type I liked it anyway!
Ok better stop - I am a grown man but acting like a kid in a lolly store (wife's words)
I will be coming to future events for sure, keep up the good work.
Cheers
Emmanuel