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Title: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: tjb0274 on July 04, 2011, 04:36:41 PM
First upload from the in-car camera - Ricciardi spinning at southern loop.

Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Paul Gulliver on July 04, 2011, 08:34:10 PM
Southern Loop; You get any wider than mid track and the road goes off camber . It all happens pretty quickly after that. Good video.

By the way what software are you using. I'm having trouble uploading some video  from the weekend,(lost my Arc soft video editing software)
so i would be interested in knowing what everybody is using.

Gully
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: tjb0274 on July 04, 2011, 08:34:55 PM
Quote from: Choderboy on July 04, 2011, 08:30:49 PM
Did you get your glove back!??!

:)

-Mick

Yeah - the recovery car guys picked it up for me when they did the lunch run for the marshalls  :)
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: tjb0274 on July 04, 2011, 08:42:50 PM
Quote from: Paul Gulliver on July 04, 2011, 08:34:10 PM
Southern Loop; You get any wider than mid track and the road goes off camber . It all happens pretty quickly after that. Good video.

Yeah, I was kind of aware of the camber but didn't realise it would be so sudden!

Quote from: Paul Gulliver on July 04, 2011, 08:34:10 PM
By the way what software are you using. I'm having trouble uploading some video  from the weekend,(lost my Arc soft video editing software)
so i would be interested in knowing what everybody is using.

Gully

It's a 2 step process for me at the moment. I'm using RaceRender2 to add the data visualisations, and it transcodes the video into a wmv format when it does that. I'm then using ffmpeg to extract the sections I want to upload and transcode them to H.264 with ACC audio encoding, which seems to be what YouTube likes.

I don't do a lot of video stuff, but I generally use ffmpeg because it can do everything if you're prepared to spend the time to learn the appropriate incantations.

This was my first attempt at HD, and I'm reasonably pleased with the result, although I'm going to experiment with ffmpeg parameters to get the size down a bit.
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Paul Gulliver on July 04, 2011, 08:48:59 PM
Thanks,

Could you explain it to me like i was your nanna. No it doesn't matter i'll wait until my son gets home to explain it.  

gully
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: hmd on July 04, 2011, 09:01:54 PM
My last lap for the day which also happened to be my fastest lap of the day

Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Paul Gulliver on July 04, 2011, 09:21:19 PM
Great lap Hung, thats got to be about 6 seconds quicker than last year.

I have sent you a PM.

Gully 
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: tjb0274 on July 04, 2011, 10:29:31 PM
Quote from: hmd on July 04, 2011, 09:01:54 PM
My last lap for the day which also happened to be my fastest lap of the day



Nice video - love the sound!
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: tjb0274 on July 04, 2011, 10:32:34 PM
Here are a couple more with other cars in shot. Didn't get my best lap on film :(  Flash card ran out right at the start of the last session.



Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: tjb0274 on July 04, 2011, 10:39:01 PM
Quote from: Paul Gulliver on July 04, 2011, 08:48:59 PM
Thanks,

Could you explain it to me like i was your nanna. No it doesn't matter i'll wait until my son gets home to explain it.  

gully

Sorry - wasn't trying to be obscure!  RaceRender (http://www.racerender.com/) is a sort of specialised video editing program. It's main purpose is to read the output from a data logger and render it as overlayed "instruments" on an in-car video, although it can do other things. However it's limited in the video formats it can output.

ffmpeg is the main Linux video processing app. It's open source, and it's been around for donkeys' years in one form or another. It's command line only - no graphical user interface. It's big strength is that it can cope with pretty much any kind of video or audio encoding format, so it's very useful for converting from one format to another. I use it to convert the video file that RaceRender creates into a format that is better for me to store on my video archive at home, as well as being easier to upload to YouTube. I get it to compress the file at the same time.
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Neil Choi on July 04, 2011, 11:03:19 PM
Pretty cool, in the second video, that was us at 2:03 passing you at entry to Southern Loop.

Cheers
Neil
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: tjb0274 on July 04, 2011, 11:09:35 PM
Quote from: Neil Choi on July 04, 2011, 11:03:19 PM
Pretty cool, in the second video, that was us at 2:03 passing you at entry to Southern Loop.

Cheers
Neil


Yes - I was somewhat chastened by how fast you caught me through T1!  Did you get the car back OK yesterday?
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Ben33 on July 04, 2011, 11:32:20 PM
My turn =)



Here is the preview video from Phillip Island. If I didn't get a chance to talk to you about the DVD on the day please PM me. The dvd will feature and extended highlights video as well as around 2 hours of on track footage. Watch this one in 1080p if you have the bandwidth..!

Thanks,
Ben
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Neil Choi on July 04, 2011, 11:34:53 PM
T1 is the best part for our car, caught many there through bravery, determination and sheer stupidity (plenty of that).

Took all day to get car back, no problems.

Will upload lap passing you at Southern Loop shortly.

Neil
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Neil Choi on July 04, 2011, 11:41:21 PM
In the highlight video, that's Dean (car 210) spinning at honda again, second time caught on video, hope it wasn't on the warm up lap.
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Evan Bottcher on July 04, 2011, 11:43:14 PM
Quote from: tjb0274 on July 04, 2011, 10:39:01 PM
Sorry - wasn't trying to be obscure!

:D

I understood you Tim.  Honest.
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Paul Gulliver on July 04, 2011, 11:44:01 PM
Here's a lap late in the afternoon with the track to myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QmG5dtB_PI

Gully
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: deano on July 05, 2011, 12:43:43 AM
Caught out again!  >:( At least its only a 180 not the classic smokey 360. Progress!  :D Thanks to all for organising the day. Bloody good to get the car out again.
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Neil Choi on July 05, 2011, 12:44:37 AM
3 laps from us, interesting start of lap 1.

Other than that, pretty average lap times following problems all day.


Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: tjb0274 on July 05, 2011, 08:45:30 AM
Quote from: Ben33 on July 04, 2011, 11:32:20 PM
My turn =)

Looks good, Ben!
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: tjb0274 on July 05, 2011, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: Paul Gulliver on July 04, 2011, 11:44:01 PM
Here's a lap late in the afternoon with the track to myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QmG5dtB_PI

Gully

Nice. Looks quick - the corners are coming up much faster than in my videos   :D
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: alfagtv58 on July 05, 2011, 09:18:22 AM
Notice Evan hasnt put any footage up yet, that's my fault as I still have his camera at my place (from Easter  :o ).  So this is my public apology to Evan for being so damn lazy in getting it back to you :-[
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: hmd on July 05, 2011, 10:17:45 AM
Tim,

Great vids love the data overlay.

Neil,

Nice lines you need more hp :)
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Neil Choi on July 05, 2011, 12:24:18 PM
Yes, more bhp would be nice, but $$$ prohibition.

However, there is a cheap 16 year old device I am installing which I know will make it go faster and seems to be working.  

Just working on tuning it a bit better.  
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Evan Bottcher on July 05, 2011, 05:28:46 PM
Quote from: alfagtv58 on July 05, 2011, 09:18:22 AM
Notice Evan hasnt put any footage up yet, that's my fault as I still have his camera at my place (from Easter  :o ).  So this is my public apology to Evan for being so damn lazy in getting it back to you :-[

Not a problem really Phil.  No-one needs to see me fall off at MG.  The only thing I wish I'd caught on camera was Steve Aarons having a big off in front of me at Southern Loop.  It was fantastic to watch.  ;D
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Evan Bottcher on July 05, 2011, 05:43:51 PM
Quote from: Neil Choi on July 05, 2011, 12:44:37 AM
3 laps from us, interesting start of lap 1.

Jeepers.  I think Ray might have seen his life flash before his eyes?  I'm clearly not trying hard enough, the back of my car doesn't let go like that. 

Dunno where that stylist thought he was going.
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Paul Gulliver on July 05, 2011, 06:01:26 PM
QuoteThe only thing I wish I'd caught on camera was Steve Aarons having a big off in front of me at Southern Loop.  It was fantastic to watch. 

At least you know those Aarons boys are always trying & won't die wondering
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Stephen Aarons on July 05, 2011, 06:12:29 PM
Quote from: Paul Gulliver on July 05, 2011, 06:01:26 PM
QuoteThe only thing I wish I'd caught on camera was Steve Aarons having a big off in front of me at Southern Loop.  It was fantastic to watch. 

At least you know those Aarons boys are always trying & won't die wondering

I wish that spin was on camera, would have been amazing to watch haha.
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: hmd on July 05, 2011, 06:36:48 PM
I can grant you that wish  :P

Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: tjb0274 on July 05, 2011, 06:49:44 PM
Quote from: aggie57 on July 05, 2011, 12:54:58 PM

I was watching your video and thinking you could make up some time through turn one pretty easily.  Having the speed on the video tells the story.  It looks like you're coasting from the time you turn in to turn one until you get to the exit of Southern Loop.  

What we should see is full power from the time you get to the apex in turn one, or even slightly before, until you get to the braking point for Southern Loop.  Use all the exit, enter Southern Loop either on the left hand side of the road or slightly to the right (no more than 1/3 of the way over) and brake into the corner.   Balance the car around the corner, double apex and get on the power as soon as you can to use all the exit and maximise speed to Honda.  

Well, that's my version.  Others will have their's of course!

Interesting - thanks for the feedback  :) 

The video is slightly deceptive - I was actually braking as I turned into turn 1, and then hard on the throttle as soon as I dared. It doesn't look like it because the car just doesn't have the grunt to make much headway against the hill. I'm probably scrubbing too much speed off at the entry to T1, because as you point out I have plenty of road available on the exit. The feedback is good - lots of things to try next time out.
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Ray Pignataro on July 05, 2011, 06:54:29 PM
QuoteJeepers.  I think Ray might have seen his life flash before his eyes?  I'm clearly not trying hard enough, the back of my car doesn't let go like that.  

Dunno where that stylist thought he was going.
Evan, I dont know what happened yes i had a brief flash  all I could see was Frank Musco saying" no mate dont lift off"
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Evan Bottcher on July 05, 2011, 07:38:53 PM
Quote from: hmd on July 05, 2011, 06:36:48 PM
I can grant you that wish  :P
;D
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Evan Bottcher on July 05, 2011, 07:47:35 PM
Quote from: tjb0274 on July 05, 2011, 06:49:44 PM
The video is slightly deceptive - I was actually braking as I turned into turn 1, and then hard on the throttle as soon as I dared. It doesn't look like it because the car just doesn't have the grunt to make much headway against the hill.

Yep I know that one.  I'm flat on the throttle from the moment the car turns in, but I'm still scrubbing off speed most of the way through turn one.
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Neil Choi on July 05, 2011, 08:20:23 PM
Here's one of a couple of nice GTV's and our mate MX5 exiting Southern Loop in an interesting way.

Enjoy.

Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Neil Choi on July 05, 2011, 10:47:46 PM
Here is the one passing the Ricciardi, went on to make 3 mistakes.


Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: aggie57 on July 06, 2011, 02:57:53 AM
Quote from: Neil Choi on July 05, 2011, 10:47:46 PM
Here is the one passing the Ricciardi, went on to make 3 mistakes.




Nice Neil.
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Stephen Aarons on July 06, 2011, 07:28:35 PM
Quote from: hmd on July 05, 2011, 06:36:48 PM
I can grant you that wish  :P



Well I asked for it  :D

Thanks for posting it, was as entertaining as expected haha
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Stephen Aarons on July 06, 2011, 07:43:16 PM


Remember this one gumby?
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Neil Choi on July 06, 2011, 11:06:02 PM
Ahhhh, the Aarons Gumbettes.
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: aggie57 on July 07, 2011, 09:58:15 AM
Quote from: tjb0274 on July 05, 2011, 06:49:44 PM

Interesting - thanks for the feedback  :) 

The video is slightly deceptive - I was actually braking as I turned into turn 1, and then hard on the throttle as soon as I dared. It doesn't look like it because the car just doesn't have the grunt to make much headway against the hill. I'm probably scrubbing too much speed off at the entry to T1, because as you point out I have plenty of road available on the exit. The feedback is good - lots of things to try next time out.


Ah - I removed my post when I re-read it cause I thought in hindsight it was a little, well, dogmatic.  Glad you took it the way intended. 

Breaking down the track to me the two corners that make it are turn one and Lukey's.  Get them right and its a like a good round of golf.  Get either wrong and anything can happen and it has to many of us over the years.

The other observation I would make is that we've had good access to the place for 20 or so years now (I think it was 1989 when it was reopened) but with the increasing development and better roads going in I get a niggling feeling that eventually it will go the way of Oran Park.  We're really lucky to have such a great, permanent, international level track so close and to have someone like Lindsay Fox prepared to put money into it.
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Paul Gulliver on July 07, 2011, 11:05:27 AM
QuoteI get a niggling feeling that eventually it will go the way of Oran Park.  We're really lucky to have such a great, permanent, international level track so close and to have someone like Lindsay Fox prepared to put money into it.

I would like to second that. Nothing made it more clear than being at Sandown a few weeks earlier, with its very poor track patch work surface, espeically between turns 1 & 2.
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Evan Bottcher on July 09, 2011, 12:10:04 AM
Is it my imagination or did a clubman follow you off?
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: tjb0274 on July 10, 2011, 06:05:06 PM
Quote from: aggie57 on July 07, 2011, 09:58:15 AM

Ah - I removed my post when I re-read it cause I thought in hindsight it was a little, well, dogmatic.  Glad you took it the way intended. 

Breaking down the track to me the two corners that make it are turn one and Lukey's.  Get them right and its a like a good round of golf.  Get either wrong and anything can happen and it has to many of us over the years.

No worries - one of the things I'm enjoying is that everyone's happy to share insights and suggestions :)  Unfortunately I don't play golf, but I think I know what you mean.
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Ray Pignataro on July 14, 2011, 07:35:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N041CyYwUwA
skating at the p.i.
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Paul Gulliver on July 14, 2011, 07:49:57 AM
Turn 1 . A corner like no other that always demands respect. Nice catch Ray.
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Ray Pignataro on July 14, 2011, 07:07:37 PM
notsure if it was a good catch or i was just lucky
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Evan Bottcher on July 14, 2011, 07:36:35 PM
Whee!  You avoided the natural urge to lift off!
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: hmd on July 14, 2011, 08:17:28 PM
Nice one Ray.
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Victor Lee on July 14, 2011, 08:33:05 PM
Interesting (?) move by the red MX5
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Ray Pignataro on July 14, 2011, 09:53:02 PM
Do you think I scared him?
Title: Re: Video from Phillip Island Sprint on Saturday
Post by: Neil Choi on July 16, 2011, 02:56:14 PM
Here is the in car capture of Ray's moment from the rear.