I understand that there were 250 of the last of the Alfasuds, the 1983 Alfasud Ti QV, imported into Australia in 1983. There were some still sold new in 1984.
I have had three over the years. All Victorian registered. I am fortunate to have recently bought a very well cared for example (thanks LC).
Where are the 83 Twin Carb Sud Tis now? How many still survive? Do you have one or were you once the proud owner?
What was your experience with this wonderful car?
It would be great to hear about your experience and even see some photos.
I would doubt that 10% of the Twin Carb Suds survive in roadworthy condition today.
A friend of mine bought a silver Twin Carb about 15 years ago. He got it at a good price (the owner didn't seem to know what he had) too. My friend had bought it for his daughter but thought better of it (she was a car killer...) and he generously let me drive it for about a month.
It was in good condition and drove very well. However you just knew that the rustworm was not too far away. It was only a matter of time before it would have succumbed... :'(
mine is a 1983 green cloverleaf ti sud one of only 3 brought into australia
Quote from: Ray Pignataro on November 04, 2010, 07:42:59 PMone of only 3 brought into australia
Sounds interesting, was yours a private import?
who would know ? Colin thomas gave me the numbers a few years ago apparently Malcolm Fraser had one and I dont know who else . I had already bastardised the car by this time. I have the origanal books that came with the car was origanaly sold in NSW. then came to vic where benincas did the servicing, I bought it in1996 or 1997
Damo
Agree with your comments as my understanding is that 250 Ti QV's were brought into Aust and also concur with Paul that very few are left registered and in reasonable 'nick'. I know of about 7 registered models and only a few in excellent condition.
I have only seen two different build dates on the cars in Aust (July 83 and late 83 from memory) so assume they were delivered in two shipments. The late 83 deliveries would have been the cars sold in 84. Great you have a new Sud to play with and from your background, sounds like you understand the cars - enjoy! Would be keen to see the car if you bring to Spettacollo.
Ray, I am interested when you mention that your car was 1 of only 3 Ti Sud's. I was not aware of any limited Suds bought into Aust other than the Ti QV's?
Happy Sud motoring.
Paul
In 1983 the last of the famous Alfasuds were made, the QV (Ti green cloverleaf) and the QO (4 door). 250 of the Ti's were imported into Australia....a few other interesting figures from 1983:
- Australia's population was around 15 million (now 22 million)
- the average age in Australia was 29 (now 38)
- the most common age was 36 (and there were 9000 more women than men at this age)
- the average weekly earnings was $324 (now over $1000)
- the median house price was $60,000 (now over $500,000)
- the Australia dollar floated in 1983 and was at its highest rate of 98.3 US cents soon aftern. It didn't return to this level intil 7 October 2010
- Bob Hawke's Labour Party defeated Malcom Fraser bringing an end 7 years of coalition government and was the first of 5 successive election wins for the ALP
- the cost of a 1983 Alfasud Ti was $13,900
- it cost less than $20 to fill that tank for your new Alfasud Ti
well i have had in past it was a red ti 1984 and now i just bought the silver ti that was advertised
The owner of my old Sud Ti (who is a club regular) showed me something interesting at the Lygon St Alfa club display earlier this year... Stamped on the B pillar on the '83 Sud Ti is a number that designates which of the 250 you are looking at. I'd never even noticed this number when I owned the car back in the day...
Quote from: stustustu123 on November 21, 2010, 03:09:39 PM
The owner of my old Sud Ti (who is a club regular) showed me something interesting at the Lygon St Alfa club display earlier this year... Stamped on the B pillar on the '83 Sud Ti is a number that designates which of the 250 you are looking at. I'd never even noticed this number when I owned the car back in the day...
Wow. I never knew that existed. I will be checking as soon as I get home!
I meant to say the B-pillar on the PASSENGER SIDE!!!
Quote from: stustustu123 on November 25, 2010, 11:51:02 PM
I meant to say the B-pillar on the PASSENGER SIDE!!!
Mine is 0071!
Guys
The number you are referring to is a panel/ production code (I think) but not an Aust import number. Also is a 4 digit stamp.
PS. Mine is 0071 as well!
Paul
Bummer ???
Make that 251 Alfasud Twin Carbs in Australia....nice story of a private import from the UK. Does anyone recognise the owner:
http://www.eastmarinedrive.com/contents/non-static/alfasud-content.htm
My brothers twin carb sud is also stamped 071 on the B pillar!
It would be great to see what VIN the 250 83 Twin Carb Suds were. Does anyone know where to find this info?
mine is also stamped 071 on the b pillar but also on the firewallon the left hand side in the cabin
My Twin Carb Sud just turned 27 years old! Happy Birthday! Built Nov 83 and first registered on 12 Jan 84.
My Brother purchased his twin carb Sud in late 1984 , from club member Robert Murch, who had previously run it in the 1983-84 Sud series that supported the then Touring car series, some of the drivers in the Sud series included Dick Johnston, Allan Grice, Colin Bond, Tony Longhurst and i think Alfredo Constanzo and also Joe Bennica from Bennica Motors in Surrey Hills, my brothers car has always been registed and he has owned it for over 26 years, he plans to hand it down to his daughter ELLA, [club member 1201B], on her 16th birthday, when my brother received his long service leave he spent 4 months driving the Sud around Australia in which he clocked up 40.000 kays, he spent around 10 years sprinting in the Alfa club sprints where he won various trophy's including Super Modified which seen it go up against more powerfull cars such as GTV 6's, he currently uses the car as his daily driver and workhourse, it even has ROOF RACKS for those trips down to Bunnings, Colin.
Colin
Fantastic to hear about your brothers' Sud still being used and enjoyed (and with a pending good home)! One query though is the Sud, a Ti Twin Carb (QV) or a series 3 Ti? My understanding is that the Sud series used series 3 Ti's and then fitted twin carbs in Aust for racing? Have seen a couple of the old Sud series cars and the twin carbs use very different mounting/ cables etc for the carbies compared to the QV Sud.
Happy Sud motoring
Thanks
Paul
My brothers Sud is a genuine twin carb with 36 I.D.F. Webers, some of the Suds that used to race i beleive were earlier ones converted to the later specs, so they could get full grids, there must be some old TV footage of these races somewhere, anybody know?, my brothers Sud still has the cutouts in the carpet where the half rollcage was installed, so crude compared to todays Race cars!, some of these various ex Sud series racecars were 'hotted up', and were run in various classes throughout Australia, I am the poor Suds mechanic and Carer, and when i think about my brother having to drive a 28 year old car, i just remember what an absolutely fun car it is to drive, hang on a minute he says it has a funny noise, i better go and drive it through some twisty roads to see if ican track it down, if you get what i mean, Colin.
Many years ago AROCA NSW managed to obtain unedited footage of the Alfasud Trophy series direct from Channel 7. It even included a camera installation lap with Dick Johnson, who rehearsed a few of his jokes while circulating. I think there is a VHS tape somewhere in our library – it was shown at a club meeting a few years ago.
The Alfasud Trophy series ran in 1983 and 1984, which predates the arrival of the Australian spec Twin Carb Ti. Of course the outcome of the 1984 series ended up in court! Tony Longhurst punted off Allan Grice on the last lap at Amaroo and won the prize – an Alfa 33 that he promptly sold. Grice sued Longhurst, the promoter (the ARDC) and the prize giver (Alfa Romeo Australia) and actually won the case! It took over 10 years to work its way through court system and by good fortune (I was working in the legal industry at the time) I managed to see the settlement document. It made interesting reading... :o
I know that the "Perrier" Alfasud was sold to Steve Downie who turned it into a turbocharged sports sedan that he still owns. I also recalled that he owned an ex-UK 1981 two door twin carb Sud Ti in dark blue, which I once drove. It was pretty quick, but the rust was already starting to take hold... :'(
Professor Newby, I don't know where you store this stuff, but your depth of knowledge always blows me away!!
Off topic....are you going to the Grp S dinner Saturday night? If so, see you there....I managed to swing a work trip to coincide.
Hi Phil, I will be there. I'm part of the GSRA organising committee...
I hear that you will be spending some quality time with Hollywood while you are up in the Emerald City... ;D
We can talk about the merits of Twin Carb Sud Ti's on the night... ;)
Agree with previous sentiments - fantastic information and appreciate your post Paul.
Know Joe B well and he does not talk highly of some of the other drivers in the series (mainly the V8 boys). Also rang Channel 7 many years ago and they were not helpful at all with obtaining footage so would love to get a copy of the video and get onto Youtube.
Have heard many positive feedback about Steve Downie and his Sud knowledge.
Enjoyable info.
Paul
One less twin carb Sud now, Hyundai rear ended brothers Sud, insurance company wrote it off, R.I.P. Sud, you were a great car, your loving carer and mechanic, Colin.
Quote from: colcol on July 04, 2011, 08:55:34 PM
One less twin carb Sud now, Hyundai rear ended brothers Sud, insurance company wrote it off, R.I.P. Sud, you were a great car, your loving carer and mechanic, Colin.
Sad Colin - very sad! Pass on commiserations to Steve. He loved that car for many years.
Hope he's OK.
Bummer :(
I remember Steve letting me drive that car around Phillip Island in the parade laps in 1997. On slicks. Very slowly. I still nearly wet myself with glee!
Colin, sorry about the bad news. At least it had a good life being well looked after.
R.I.P. Sud
Paul
Very sorry to hear that Colin. Please pass on my condolence to your brother. I am sure that it will be missed.
hello, well here are some pics of my 83 Sud Ti QV which is still on the road and going strong
Mark
Great car Marc, never owned one, but use to be the spanner man on my brothers twin carb, he owned it from 1984-2011, most likely my favourite Alfa Romeo, always looked forward to driving it, look after yours Marc, if you are in Victoria, bring it along to Spectacolo, or an Alfa Cruise, Colin.
Very nice Sud Mark. Good to hear its still on the road and going strong.
Resurrecting this thread, as it appears that I seem to have acquired one of these 'last 250' Twin Carb Ti's. I'll have a thread on it's resurrection and it's transformation into a desert warrior here... http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=9264.0 (http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=9264.0)
I know very little about it's history, other than that it's last rego was in 2002 in SA, and that it's apparently been sitting at an Alfa specialist in Hawthorn for a fair few years, and had quite a bit of work done in that time. Obviously someone gave up though, as it was flicked off quickly to a wrecker, and I bought it off him for under $1000.
Interestingly, it appears that it used to be red (the interior paint is still red, and bits of red can be seen in the engine bay where grommets have loosened up over time. It's had a very good respray in the silver though, hard to fault it at all, and it's clearly not a recent respray.
It certainly seems to have most of the bits that would mark it as a Ti QV; the twin webbers, yellow instrument needles, red heart, pepperpot wheels etc. The only part that confuses me is the carpets and seats. I believe the carpet should be red, and the seats should have 'Ti' inserts? This has black carpets, and red vinyl instead of the Ti inserts. I guess the seats were re-covered and Ti material was too hard to get, and maybe the red carpets were completely knackered and also too hard to replace? Doesn't matter too much to me, I like the black carpet. The Ti seats would be nice though, I always liked them.
Quote from: damo38 on December 27, 2010, 07:50:54 PM
It would be great to see what VIN the 250 83 Twin Carb Suds were. Does anyone know where to find this info?
I was doing a bit of research on this tonight. I sent off my info to Marco Fazio at the documents repository at Alfa Romeo, but unfortunately he's on leave for a month, so I won't hear back any official info for a while. But at another site I discovered that all the 1983 Ti QVs had a chassis number between ZAS901G50*05094000 and *05102999 ref http://alfasud.alfisti.net/indexe.htm (http://alfasud.alfisti.net/indexe.htm)
Mine falls in between those numbers, and makes it about 240 from the last. And it has a Nov 83 build plate.
I look forward to learning more about these cars, and can't wait for my first decent drive of it. Not looking forward to rebuilding brakes, fixing the rust, and sorting out the electrics.....
Sheldon, the genuine twin carbs had 'TI' printed into the seats, as they are old, and the material is unobtainable, [except on ebay], they usually just get the seats retrimmed, in an easy to obtain color, the original carpets were red, most likely not been available for 25 years, may have been a repro or off a wrecked single carb Sud, very poor quality carpets, just like the 33 and 156.... , i don't know why you would respray it another color unless you are going for a full resto, in my opinion, the silver and red look good for different reasons, a fair bit of stuff for these available off ebay, particulary in Italy and Greece, where the hard times at the moment are forcing people to clean out their spare parts stock, i bet the combi switch isn't working properly, they usually burn out as there is too much current running through them, relays will sort that problem out, and the front brakes and handbrake, the most unreliable and hard to work on part of the Sud, even i hated to work on the brakes, Colin.
Sheldon
Great buy and you will have a lot of fun in a well setup Sud (and great investment - ha ha). Car sounds like a genuine QV and chassis number matches as mine is 050102690 (think your number is 050102999).
My understanding is that two shipments of TiQV's were brought to Aust and the build dates were July 03 and Nov 09 - all were painted silver, red and black (rare) so red paint sounds original. FYI, Alfa built circa 9,100 in total and engine should be a 95hp (go the Euro 105 hp or better still, the 8v 1.7).
The body is where the $'s are spent on these cars due to poor drainage on internal panels and not due to steel quality as is commonly stated (was an early Sud problem). Parts are cheap including NOS and heaps on the net (as per Colin) due to the low interest in these cars (and not many left due to rust).
Safe motoring
Paul
Thanks Paul. Yeah, looks like it will need a bit of bodywork done, which is a bit of a PIA to be honest, but I really like the car, so pretty sure I'll commit myself to just getting it done. I've always wanted one of these, so could be worth keeping and getting it right. What I paid has gotta be rock bottom for one of these in saveable condition, so at the very least it should hold it's value (ha!, but we can always hope..). That said, this one being resprayed, and with non-original seat and carpet material makes it a bit of a mongrel I suppose.
I'd been toying with the idea of getting a Peugeot 205GTi recently, and was very close to getting one actually, but this is probably even better as one of the iconic hot-hatches of the 80s, and the spiritual father of them all really.
The idea of an 8v 1.7 is certainly appealing, since I'm gonna have to drop the engine to fix the rust anyway.
Quote from: POC on August 01, 2012, 09:54:25 PM
Great buy and you will have a lot of fun in a well setup Sud (and great investment - ha ha). Car sounds like a genuine QV and chassis number matches as mine is 050102690 (think your number is 050102999).
Hmmm, nope, mine is definitely 05102657.
The two numbers I provided would make a run of 8999 cars.
Sheldon, having owned both a 205gti and (still) a twin carb sud I would suggest the sud will provide a lot more enjoyment and be easier to work on. I like the 205 but personally I think the sud has it all over the 205 for character of its engine, the note especially on overrun and it's great ability to heel and toe, the twin carbs also have great throttle response. I also think the sud has a nicer gearbox. The 205 will have more road holding but the sud won't throw you off the road if you go into a corner too hot. Suda are extremely chuck able.
Build quality is not great on either and the 205 should have less rust.
Don't listen to these people who say you should have a 1.7L, they're best balanced with a well tuned 1.5L and a close ratio gearbox as fitted to the earlier suds IMHO.
Good luck with it
If you were planning on keeping the car and you had a 1.7 sitting on the floor, then put it in, but the 1.5 is highly satisfying, as it has no torque, and you have to use the gearbox more, the 1.7 has buckets of torque, but that just makes you lazy, and you don't get anymore power out of a 1.7 in a Sud, but you do in a 33, why?, because the Sud has a restricted engine pipe that suits the 1.5, but not the 1.7, the engine pipe is restricted by the gearbox and inboard disc brakes getting in the way of bigger engine pipes, the 1.7 has bigger pipes than the 1.5.... for good reason, Colin.
'Obviously' I agree with Colin's comments re 1.7 but appreciate Mika's comments. Standard TiQV with Koni's/ good suspension rubbers etc has fantastic balance with little torque steer and the great boxer motor. But IMHO the 1.7 twin carb engine transforms the car due to the engine's torque and power compared to the 1.5 (circa 25% more hp ATW's). The front suspension does need a few mods though to minimise torque steer.
Colin, re your comment about the exhaust, I used 8v modified header flanges and had a custom '16v' exhaust made to fit around the inboard brakes (basically a copy of the 1.5 exhaust). The exhaust studs out of the cylinder heads needed small bolt heads but just fitted on the 8v motor (joy)! Only then did the 1.7 produce the correct HP.
Sheldon, will re check the numbers!
Paul
The 1.7 did sound pretty tempting, but just because I thought I read somewhere that this model had slightly higher gearing? So a wee bit more torque and power would make it a slightly more relaxed cruiser (not that I bought it as a cruiser, but you know, sometimes you've got to put up with some motorway on the way to the good roads).
I'd also been looking at options for outboard brakes, but I'm thinking that (since I haven't even driven the bloody thing yet, and probably won't for quite some time (sigh)) I'd like to keep it as standard as possible for a while, just so I can see what they're like as a standard car. If I get this rust fixed properly I can see myself keeping the car for a while, so plenty of time to upgrade it later on.
Sheldon, it depends on how long you intend to keep the car, and the 5hiibox rally, the car cannot be worth over $500, there goes your new 1.7 engine pipe, and the outboard brakes are definately do-able, but lots of time and money for not a big benefit, and if you have to get a roadworthy on a modified car, might prove difficult, the standard twin carb Sud gearing is quite high, pain in the nether regions at times, revs high at 60kph, put it into 4th at 60kph and it struggles, Colin.
Sheldon
From memory 4th & 5th gear are higher on the TiQV's than all other Boxer engined Alfas and 5th gear is basically an overdrive gear (hence Mika's advice re gearbox). Even 1.7 injected Boxers have shorter 4th and 5th gears.
Colin's comments re car plans are spot on but would suggest NO for out board brakes. Have driven numerous 33's and whilst IMHO is a similar experience to the Sud, they do not provide the same steering lightness and feel. Centre point rack with in-board brakes makes the steering a highlight of the car! In-board brakes also means they cannot handle too much heat but if car is being used on the road, keep it original as they work fine with good pads & fluid (for racing, you will need out boards).
All the best.
Paul
Going outboard for brakes is a big expensive job, bleed the system with DOT 4 brake fluid and some appropriate pads and some air ducts should be ok, don't change too much from standard, as you may need a rebuild in central Australia, Colin.
Thanks guys.
This car will not be going on the rally. If I decide it's worth fixing the rust I'll be keeping it as a weekend toy.
Yeah, I'll definitely keep the inboard brakes for now, I want to see how a standard 'Sud drives. But since I'll have the engine and 'box out anyway I'll put on some 105hp heads, and maybe look at a shorter gearbox.
There seems to be a good range of second-hand and/or NOS parts still available for these in Europe, which is a nice change from a 90....
Great to hear Sheldon......
Plenty of parts for the engines and gearboxes from wreckers here in Australia, the heads will come from a 33 TI, for 105 H.P., for the 95 H.P., they are of a GCL, try and get the carbs off a 105H.P., they are jetted to suit that motor, if you get 95H.P. carbs, you will need to get them rejetted, a good gearbox to get for a twin carb 1.5 Sud is the one off a 33 T.I., 1.5, closer ratios and 5th gear at 60 kph, no problem, the torque developed at higher revs dictated a lower set of ratio's for the T.I., the GCL developed less torque at lower revs, had a slightly higher gearset of ratios, Colin.
On the original twin carb Suds, they had on the back window 'Alfa Romeo 18 world records for endurance', was a sticker that Alfa Romeo had broken 18 world records, whether it was for Alfa Romeo's or cars in general, it wasn't stated, but it sure looked good, until the Australian sun got to it and it peeled it off after about 10 minutes, i noticed on ebay , that there is a company in the UK doing repro stickers for cars from the olden days, saw the Alfa world record stickers, can't remember what site it was, but would be easy to find, and a must for a serious twin carb Sud owner, Colin.
I can only think of about 2 in NSW most of uors are the 81/82 single carb ones, mine is earlier than that .. but i only know of one other early series 2 with blue instruments.. shouldn't have made mine a racer ... but it was a little rough to start with
The twin carb Suds are not bringing much money, but i reckon they will go up in price in the next few years, as they have most likely bottomed out price wise, the twin carb was the least prone Sud to rust, as it was the last model, but comparing it to a series 1 or 2, that is nothing to write home about, went to a non Alfa wrecker the other day, and there was a twin carb silver Sud there, very rough, haven't seen a Sud at a wrecking yard for years, Colin.
Quote from: colcol on August 31, 2012, 08:10:49 PM
On the original twin carb Suds, they had on the back window 'Alfa Romeo 18 world records for endurance', was a sticker that Alfa Romeo had broken 18 world records, whether it was for Alfa Romeo's or cars in general, it wasn't stated, but it sure looked good, until the Australian sun got to it and it peeled it off after about 10 minutes, i noticed on ebay , that there is a company in the UK doing repro stickers for cars from the olden days, saw the Alfa world record stickers, can't remember what site it was, but would be easy to find, and a must for a serious twin carb Sud owner, Colin.
I'm in the sunny UK for a few years (minus my Sud) so I will definitely track down that sticker. It will make a great 30th birthday present for it next year!
I just purchased mine off ebay in Australia, look up British Motor Corporation, British Leyland, Morris, Austin, Rover Stickers, they do repro stickers that were on the cars built at the time, and they have stickers for Alfa's as well, Colin.
I managed to track down that "18 world records" sticker. I will pick up a couple for my Sud. It looks like a great online shop.
http://www.classiccapsule.com/alfa-romeo-sticker-75-gtv-spider-alfetta-alfasud-gtv6-2171-p.asp
Co-incidentally I live in the same town in the UK as EB Spares, unfortunately they don't seem to carry Alfasud or 33 spares. I have managed to pick up a few spares for when I return to Oz in 2014.
Looks like a few twin carb Suds have come out of the wood work this year. It would be good for a few to gather for their 30th birthday next year.
You could try Peter Webb at Alfasudsonline in the UK, they just do Alfasuds, Sprints and 33's, has a lot of new and used spare parts, don't know their address, because i only email them!, the business is part time, but i ordered parts one Friday night and they turned up the following Wednesday, my twincarb Sud mate up the road uses them all the time, Colin.
It is possible in the UK to search online for how many of a particular model are currently registered and presumably still on the road (http://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?q=alfasud). Is there anything like this in Australia?
Just a quick note. As former editor of Chequered Flag and part of the Perrier team; I had wondered where the Perrier Alfasud ended up... I would love to get any further updates... I had tracked down the clone car that was my daily drive but when last found it had been involved in two accidents and was beyond economic repair...
Seems this forum has given me some new passion to go for it ag.qain...
Twin carb Alfasud, greatest Alfa i have ever driven, just bucket loads of personality, not sure its that practicle for a daily driver, but put it on CLUB REG, and take it for a blast on Sundays, hope you find it, not sure how you track these things down, Colin.
Perhaps it is time for a twin carb Sud roll call. There are a few owners of the surviving 250 originally imported who are active on this forum:
1. Me (Damo38) - Red, Built Nov 83, first registered 12 Jan 84 in Vic, 5 owners, now in NSW.
2. POC - Grey, Vic
3. Mike - Red, WA
4. Enzo1891 - Grey
5. ColCol's brother - (written off Jul 11)
6. Ray Pignataro -
7. Sud83 - Grey, SA
8. Sheldon McIntosh - Grey,
9. Graham_Howard - Grey, Qld (private import from UK)
Quote from: NRMOZ on May 03, 2014, 09:25:28 PM
Just a quick note. As former editor of Chequered Flag and part of the Perrier team; I had wondered where the Perrier Alfasud ended up... I would love to get any further updates... I had tracked down the clone car that was my daily drive but when last found it had been involved in two accidents and was beyond economic repair...
Seems this forum has given me some new passion to go for it ag.qain...
I've been told that the Perrier Sud ended up with Steve Downie in Sydney who turned it into a turbocharged sports sedan and raced it sporadically over the years. My recollection was that it was fast but fragile and Steve, an Alfa engineer/mechanic did a huge amount of development to make it work. I remember once Steve had it at Oran Park on jack stands with tyre warmers on the front tyres - can't recall whether the front wheels were 8 inch or 10 inch - but it was an amazing sight. 8)
I think Steve still has the Sud, but his son Mitch, who I think frequents this forum, would know for sure.
1. Me (Damo38) - Red, Built Nov 83, first registered 12 Jan 84 in Vic, 5 owners, now in NSW.
2. POC - Grey, Vic
3. Mike - Red, WA
4. Enzo1891 - Grey
5. ColCol's brother - (written off Jul 11)
6. Ray Pignataro -
7. Sud83 - Grey, SA
8. Sheldon McIntosh - Grey,
9. Graham_Howard - Grey, Qld (private import from UK)
10. Cameron - Build Nov 83, Qld
Updating the list of Twin Carb Suds to reflect Jonathon's recent purchase (11 out of 250):
1. Me (Damo38) - Red, Built Nov 83, first registered 12 Jan 84 in Vic, 5 owners, now in NSW.
2. POC - Grey, Vic
3. Mike - Red, WA
4. Enzo1891 - Grey
5. ColCol's brother - (written off Jul 11)
6. Ray Pignataro -
7. Sud83 - Grey, SA
8. Sheldon McIntosh - Grey,
9. Graham_Howard - Grey, Qld (private import from UK)
10. Cameron - Build Nov 83, Qld
11. Jonathon - Vic
I've got the last Sud based twin carb Sprint 84 model. Does that count ?
Why not! It is certainly part of the Sud family.
There is a Red 83 Sud twin carb at Pacific Mtrs, at Pacific Hwy at Pymble.Sydney
Have confirmed the year.
Spoke to the owner,Andrew,, of the business who has owned it and restored it.
Currently in the showroom,with its 1985 Red GTV V6 brother,and can be viewed anytime.
Not for sale,as I have asked him many times.
One of the nicer ones I have seen.
Wrecked plenty of them over the years,as no one wanted them.
Now I want one,,like many of us do= Nostalgia.
Quote from: damo38 on September 11, 2014, 09:32:11 AM
Why not! It is certainly part of the Sud family.
:D I'm just being a smart ass but I am pretty proud of my car :)
Sorry to say, but you need to take me off the list. The rust was beyond my skill, so I sold my one to a chap who was going to use it's parts to resurrect his one. Hopefully he'll be along soon with a beautiful Ti.
And one day I hope to be back on the list. I really love these cars.
Sheldon,
Very sorry to hear that but at least it is helping to resurrect another. They seem to come out of the woodwork now and again so hopefully there will be another in your future.
Regards Damian