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Technical => 116 Series (Alfetta Sedan/GT/GTV & Giulietta Sedan) => Topic started by: AgeG on June 28, 2010, 03:59:57 PM

Title: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: AgeG on June 28, 2010, 03:59:57 PM
I recently purchased some 17" 147 rims for my GTV6.

I am currently awaiting delivery.

I know they are the same offset and stud pattern, but I was told that they wont fit unless i have the wheel machined.

Is this true and if so what needs to be done? If it is a difficult job is there anyone that can be recommended to do it in the northern suburbs of Melbourne?

Cheers,

Adrian

Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: Storm_X on June 28, 2010, 07:10:27 PM
you might need to get the holes in the wheels drilled for the hubs.

thats a easy job.
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: Anthony Miller on June 28, 2010, 07:31:32 PM
You'll most likely need a set of spacers for the front. This wiil give the clearance you need for the hub as well as correct the offset without having the wheels machined. If the offset isn't a worry then you'll only need something like a 3mm spacer to clear the hub.
Good luck
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: Neil Choi on June 28, 2010, 08:08:21 PM
Adrian

The wheels will fit, we fitted some 16" 147 and 156 and 17" 156 wheels to 116 GTV's and 116 GTV6's as well as the sedan and Giulietta.

Get a file or a die grinder and remove the 5 little tabs in the wheel centres, then the wheels will slot into the hub nicely.

As mentioned by others above, check the offset but you should be okay.  Also beware of brake caliper clearance, you might need the 3 mm spacer.

Check your wheel studs too, so there is enough thread, also the wheel nuts too.  I think this is the important bit.

Other than that, it should be good.

I personally think 16" are better proportioned and better looking, that said, I have a brand new set of 17" 30 spoke rims doing nothing at the moment, never being on car.

Neil
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: AgeG on June 29, 2010, 09:01:53 AM
So am i best to have the wheels machined or just use spacers? Is the problem just the front wheels or the back too? will the wheel nuts be long enough for the new wheels?
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on June 29, 2010, 02:19:37 PM
Quote from: AgeG on June 29, 2010, 09:01:53 AM
So am i best to have the wheels machined or just use spacers? Is the problem just the front wheels or the back too? will the wheel nuts be long enough for the new wheels?

Fit them up and see, it'll be pretty obvious if they're not going to sit flush.  I've always thought you just need to open up the centre bore hole a tad, like 1mm or something, but this is probably the same thing that Neil is saying.  It's pretty hard for us to tell if your wheel nuts will fit from this distance, again you'll have to try them and see.

It's likely that no-one on this forum has fitted those particular wheels to a GTV6.  BTW, they remind me of these wheels...
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: AgeG on June 29, 2010, 02:37:14 PM
Classic Sheldon, i am hoping they look a little better than that!
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: Storm_X on June 29, 2010, 05:55:22 PM
Quote from: Neil Choi on June 28, 2010, 08:08:21 PM
Adrian

The wheels will fit, we fitted some 16" 147 and 156 and 17" 156 wheels to 116 GTV's and 116 GTV6's as well as the sedan and Giulietta.

Get a file or a die grinder and remove the 5 little tabs in the wheel centres, then the wheels will slot into the hub nicely.

As mentioned by others above, check the offset but you should be okay.  Also beware of brake caliper clearance, you might need the 3 mm spacer.

Check your wheel studs too, so there is enough thread, also the wheel nuts too.  I think this is the important bit.

Other than that, it should be good.

I personally think 16" are better proportioned and better looking, that said, I have a brand new set of 17" 30 spoke rims doing nothing at the moment, never being on car.

Neil



This will work. I did this to fit sr20 wheels to a sigma . I used a file and a drill bit.
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: dehne on June 29, 2010, 06:08:17 PM
i am using spacers on the 90 for the 156 rims was easier to do and quicker buy a full set front and rear for $50 im using 5mm
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: AgeG on July 07, 2010, 02:31:12 PM
will my speedo be out with 17/215/45 tyres on gtv6?
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: martym00se72 on July 07, 2010, 04:27:03 PM
You should be able to work out the difference between stock (195/60R15) and your new tyre/wheel combo using the calculators here:

http://www.1010tires.com/tiresizecalculator.asp
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: AgeG on July 12, 2010, 10:02:43 AM
Wheels on, bores needed to be machined to make them fit and wheel rash taken care of so they look new, total for $200 from Coburg wheel repairs who did a great job.
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: AgeG on July 12, 2010, 10:04:44 AM
having trouble trying to upload photos, will keep trying.
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: AgeG on July 12, 2010, 11:32:50 AM
Photos of wheels on car
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: Mile Jurcic on July 12, 2010, 08:00:42 PM
Hi Age,

Wheels look good. How have you found the ride compared to your standard wheels?

Cheers
Mile
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: dehne on July 12, 2010, 08:32:28 PM
good to see you got them done i just brought some more spacers today for my white 90 for $45 they are an 8mm but do the job fine
they car looks great
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: MD on July 12, 2010, 09:01:16 PM
Well I guess it's all in the eyes of the beholder.

In my view the car is great,
The wheels are great.
Those wheels on that car don't look great.

The style period is all wrong. Curved lines in the wheels do not relate to the hard edgy look of the car. The whole look is wheels and car rarther than a symbiotic relationship.

No doubt others will disagree as there are geniune admirers of the Mito as well I am told  but I am not one.
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: AgeG on July 13, 2010, 06:47:22 AM
Mille no drop in ride quality that I can tell, steering a little heavier but muh nicer in the twistys. MD I can appreciate what your saying but I think it definately freshens the car up but that's my opinion I spose
Dehne, I wAs going to use spacers but was worried about guard clearance and really didn't want to get I to modifying them.
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: MD on July 13, 2010, 07:32:37 PM
AgeG. What a gentleman. Must say you took that criticism very well. Some people would crack a dark one, but hey, what's a forum for if you can't express a reasonable and qualified opinion ?

Now for Paul, er , faaark. My rough understanding is  that you have a point but you prefer to keep it in your pants ??  ;D  Failing that , tell us all where that servo is cause I a feel a sudden rush of "I need a new set of wheels syndrome" coming on . :)
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: AgeG on July 13, 2010, 10:59:10 PM
Paul yes to alfa club cruises and spetacollo, track day as spectator, mine is a Sunday cruiser I Love it too much to risk hurting it but maybe I will work up the courage at some stage.

 
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: Simon Aarons on July 13, 2010, 11:10:04 PM
17" Wheels are great on GTV's... everyone should be doing it!  :)

Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: MD on July 14, 2010, 08:06:14 AM
me likem dis wun..
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: Mile Jurcic on July 14, 2010, 10:38:38 AM
Hey Simon,

Car looks great, love the ride height.

What have you done to your suspension ?

Cheers
Mile.
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: Simon Aarons on July 14, 2010, 02:54:56 PM
Shut up Mick!  :)

What i have done is no secret. I bought 30mm torsion bars, uprated springs, front + rear roll bars and probably something else - can't remember. But the secret is what Monza Motors did. All i know is that the handling on the road and track is unbelievable!... you should know Mick.. i was quicker than you.  ;)
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: martym00se72 on July 14, 2010, 05:42:57 PM
Hi Simon,
what are those wheels? - really like the look of them.
Cheers
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: Anthony Miller on July 14, 2010, 05:49:15 PM
They're from a GT aren't they?
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: dehne on July 14, 2010, 05:53:41 PM
they came out on the last of the 156 as an option they are available in 16 and 17 inch
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: Mile Jurcic on July 14, 2010, 06:37:24 PM
Thanks Simmo,

So it handles as good as it looks thats awesome.

Hey Mick, i noticed your Turbodelta has a nice stance as well.

So whats the secret recipe ?

Cheers
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: Simon Aarons on July 14, 2010, 09:14:10 PM
Quote from: dehne on July 14, 2010, 05:53:41 PM
they came out on the last of the 156 as an option they are available in 16 and 17 inch

They are actually off the earlier 156's - i believe the Sport or Monza models had these wheels. 17" only, never seen these in 16". The last of the 156 had a slightly different pattern i believe.
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: dehne on July 14, 2010, 10:00:27 PM
i think there are 2 different spoked rims, there was a set of 16 inch on ebay not long ago i thought they were only in 17inch to until i read the tyre size
Title: Re: Fitting 17" 147 wheels to my 116 GTV6
Post by: martym00se72 on July 30, 2010, 03:33:28 PM
Quote from: Simon Aarons on July 14, 2010, 09:14:10 PM
Quote from: dehne on July 14, 2010, 05:53:41 PM
they came out on the last of the 156 as an option they are available in 16 and 17 inch

They are actually off the earlier 156's - i believe the Sport or Monza models had these wheels. 17" only, never seen these in 16". The last of the 156 had a slightly different pattern i believe.

They look very similar (nigh on identical) to OZ Racing Superturismos I think? What size are yours Simon? 17x7 or 17x8? Any fitting issues? Very nice wheel - suits the GTV6 no end I think. So much so I am getting some  ;D
Cheers
Marty