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Racing => Historic Group S Racing => Topic started by: Fast Eddie on November 18, 2006, 09:16:23 AM

Title: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on November 18, 2006, 09:16:23 AM
Okay,
I've had the historic bug since my childhood when attending racing, hillclimbs, sprints etc with my Dad. I have been considering building a group S car for some time and confess i did want it to be a bug eye sprite for some time as this is what my Dad competed in.  But i have the Alfa bug instead well and due to cost it had to be a GTV for me.

More recently i crewed for the Goundrey GTV @ Historic Sandown last week and finally bit the bullet...The " Yellow Peril Group Sc GTV project is officially launched.  Even my wife is supporting me so far :o

I secured the car this week and it is currently with Bruno @ Maranello having some basic work done so i can put it on club plates as it will do regularity for the first year or so and with a stock motor.  My aim is to have it ready for March 2007 Phillip Island historics.

As soon as i can get the photos small enough, i will attach them. 

Basically the car itself is rust free, straight and only requires a few cosmetic items to get it ready- drivers side door handle, right side instrument stork, fuel cap, rear door skins and eventually a new steering wheel, seats, front spoiler and a set of mini lites.  Oh and the engine is down a cylinder so pending investigation will determine what is required there.  The head has been worked and it has a set of purpose built extractors fitted. Paint is okay but flaky in soem areas so will be re done over time.

Wish me luck - Fast Eddie Racing

Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on November 18, 2006, 09:05:06 PM
Here is the first set of pics
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on November 18, 2006, 09:07:04 PM
Now that i am getting the hang of pic uploading, i added some more.  Thanks Evan for the lesson, advice.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Pete Y on November 18, 2006, 11:13:30 PM
Wow, that's some serious Spaghetti under there Ed..

Looks like you have a nice base for something there, good luck.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on November 19, 2006, 08:32:06 PM
Thanks.  Yeah that's the extractors built by some engine guru dude apparently and set up that way so they dont get crushed under the car through lots of kerb hopping.  The Goundrey Sc GTV has the same set up.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Scott Farquharson on November 20, 2006, 04:48:32 PM
The car looks good to go!  You are a shoe in for PI in March.  Looks fantastic.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on November 20, 2006, 05:12:33 PM
Not quite ready to go but fairly close to potentially have a start in the regularity @ P.I. in March.

As soon as the engine is a going concern and the car is registered, i will start on obtaining Sc compliance approval and entering the event.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: jimnielsen on November 20, 2006, 08:07:45 PM
No, Scott is right!! You are GOOD TO GO!!!  Everyone knows that yellow cars go faster! But hey the car does look great, I may need to get a bigger rear view mirror!!

Jim..
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Victor Lee on November 20, 2006, 10:31:07 PM
Is there any other colour?

Victor  ;D
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Scott Farquharson on November 20, 2006, 10:33:21 PM
Oh no what have we created - the yellow GTV club.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on November 21, 2006, 04:52:51 PM
Quote from: jimnielsen on November 20, 2006, 08:07:45 PM
No, Scott is right!! You are GOOD TO GO!!!  Everyone knows that yellow cars go faster! But hey the car does look great, I may need to get a bigger rear view mirror!!

Jim..

wow, never thought Jim would be nervous about my times  :D  great incentive though ;D
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on November 21, 2006, 04:53:52 PM
Quote from: Scott Farquharson on November 20, 2006, 10:33:21 PM
Oh no what have we created - the yellow GTV club.

Even Bec likes the colour and unsurprising to many, prefers it already over the mighty 888 sprint ::)
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Evan Bottcher on November 21, 2006, 09:22:17 PM
Quote from: jimnielsen on November 20, 2006, 08:07:45 PM
Everyone knows that yellow cars go faster!

That's yellow Jim - not CUSTARD  :P
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Scott Farquharson on November 21, 2006, 10:41:16 PM
Ha Ha Ha - that's the funniest thing I've heard all week.....Custard! Hahahahahaha...

No Jim, really it's a lovely colour.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: vin sharp on November 26, 2006, 05:57:08 PM
Quote from: Edward Hellsten on November 19, 2006, 08:32:06 PM
Thanks.  Yeah that's the extractors built by some engine guru dude apparently and set up that way so they dont get crushed under the car through lots of kerb hopping.  The Goundrey Sc GTV has the same set up.
Hmm.. I might be wrong but, from what I can see in the picture the port exit angles of #1&2 are seriously BAD!!
It looks like a case (another) of somebody who has spent lots of time and effort to cut and weld tubes but has no  understanding of basic gas flow dynamics . See the Jim Kartalamakis book for some  good diagrams of exhaust port exits. I would bet money that a set of stock Alfetta iron manifolds with 1-3/4" secondaries attached would work better than these......short 4 into 1 designs are not good off slow corner apexes with a relativey heavy car either. Sorry Ed, but those stylish seats must be worth at least 5bhp!!!! 
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on November 28, 2006, 02:07:56 PM
well as you say, some people have no idea... even supposed exhaust experts.  Time will tell with these, but until i get the motor on all cylinders... :-\

So dont worry Vin - eventually a spare donk will make it's way to Park Orchards to be turned into a Jim Neilsen beating monster Sc engine.

The seats are particularly special arent they? and shock, horror - the door trims match as did the steering wheel and gearstick boot that originally made up this set.  why would someone decorate an Italian car in German colours?  Gott in Himmel!

Fortunately, a replacement interior has been sourced.  all i need now is a decent period sports steering wheel - anyone got one gathering dust that'll fit? ???
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Scott Farquharson on November 28, 2006, 10:27:05 PM
The seats are magnificent.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on December 22, 2006, 04:10:18 PM
Yellow Peril update...
It's now on Historic reg plates (i got allocated old stock CH plates, not the new H plates... go figure) and is now parked in the driveway at home along with the Sprint, GTA and Bec's Astra having collected it from Bruno's last night.  Quite a squeze.
A little more than just a new set of plugs was required - we needed new rings on all 4 pistons, at least 1 new pot, a decent set of 2 litre cams and a ported head.  Still got the spaghetti extractors on for now as Vin's cost too much and they sound good :P

Once i get back form Christmas in Perth, i will set about trying to make it look a little more presentable inside and out ready it for a drive or 2 and P.I.  I will put up some new photos next week.

My regularity berth @ P.I. Classis is booked as is my accomodation and crew and parking spot with the rest of the Group S gang.
The car willl go back to Maranello before then for some brake, exhaust and suspension preparation.

Until then... Merry Christmas to all
Fast Eddie
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Scott Farquharson on December 22, 2006, 09:51:26 PM
Great News!
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: alfagtv58 on January 24, 2007, 09:25:55 AM
Whats the update Edward ???  All things still on track for PI?  Will you be doing a 'shakedown' at Winton the weekend before?
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on January 24, 2007, 10:30:28 AM
all on track.   ;D entered, paid and accepted for regularity class @ P.I.  Dorian and accomodation booked also.

The 'Yellow Peril' has been cleaned up cosmetically and had new pistons, rings, cylinders and cams fitted, made 'roadworthy' and is now sporting CH plates. 
The EMR on sunday FEB 04 through the Black and Reefton spurs will be it's first run and be a great "running in" day as we will do a good 200k that day.

Then it will go back to Maranello mid feb for work on brakes, suspension and exhaust, fit the harness and maybe a seat in order to get it "track worthy" prior to P.I.

I will run my gold Rial rims and D01s as i am not tyre restricted in regularity but when i can afford it (read sold the sprint) i want to fit Superlites and A048s.

Got some more photos to ad but nothing like what you, Scott and Colin have done.

Cant wait to run the car on the EMR then let it loose @ P.I.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on February 05, 2007, 11:00:42 PM
A few more shots taken the day before the EMR "Twin Spurs" run last sunday.
Put the car through 270k's of running in through the Black Spur to Marysville then the Reefton Spur via Lake Mountain to Warburton.

The car didnt miss a beat but the drone of the stuffed diff in the cockpit (no sound deadening) was a bit much over 2.5 hours.  Clutch was a bit iffy but all in all a very satisfying day driving reasonably hard in high 30's.

A few jobs to do and the "Yellow Peril" will be all ready for a cruse down to P.I. and a blast or 2 around that fine circuit in March.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on February 05, 2007, 11:04:12 PM
Incidentally, the green 105 Berlina belongs to Gordon, my father, who has recently joined AROCA Vic having crossed over from the dark (Renault) side. ;D
Fiona Bottcher is also in the shot as is Evan with his back to the camera and Bec, behind my dad, readying to leave Marysville for stage 2 - the wicked Reefton Spur.

Bec was even satisfied with the day and the ride and how the GTV went, except for the damn diff droning all day in our ears. :P
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Scott Farquharson on February 05, 2007, 11:23:26 PM
So after it's first official run - have you now left the dark side (suds and 33's) and become a fully a fledged Alfetta man? 

Also isn't it time to update your signature photo??  The yellow peril deserves the spot!
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on February 06, 2007, 09:26:42 AM
The "Red Rocket" sprint is still well and truly my baby and i am struggling with the concept of selling it ::) but... my first true love has always been a well turned out early GTV.

Thought only yesterday about changing the signature pic but might wait til i get a few shots from P.I. when it is wearing it's warpaint ;D
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on February 11, 2007, 03:57:06 PM
Gee Scott, maybe i might just change my avatar after all but not to the Yellow Peril as it is now up for sale! (see separate post).

I have gone down a different path but one that may actually get me to my destination sooner than i had originally planned. ;)
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Blake on February 11, 2007, 04:33:27 PM
Ed, is the path coloured in red????? I think you just beat me to it by about 30 seconds, that was my path aswell. I was looking at the car while you were on the phone making the deal that i was going to make. Congrats though, its a good little thing. cant wait to see it on the track, im very jelous.

Blake
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on February 11, 2007, 07:48:19 PM
Things go faster if they are red  ;D
I do apologise for stealing your thunder but i have been watching the car for a month or so when it was first offered.

Yellow is a great colour too...and so is the car...can i tempt you to consider my yellow GTV? ???  It's just had a major engine rebuild and is much fresher than the red one you saw today.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Blake on February 11, 2007, 08:07:01 PM
It was a good buy, and a great little car. I did manage to get a drive before i left, very nice. At the moment i cant afford your yellow GTV, but we will see what happens in the future. Enjoy the car and cant wait to see it on the track.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on February 11, 2007, 08:43:09 PM
thanks, it seemed way to cheap to miss out on...  If you want to see the yellow one some time let me know.  Price is definitely negotiable.   I cant afford 5 Alfas including 3 race cars ::) so the yellow one must sell ASAP.

Ed
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Blake on February 11, 2007, 09:11:51 PM
You have talked me into it, i will be in contact through the week and try to organise a time to come and have a look on the weekend.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Craig Sinclair on February 12, 2007, 10:28:29 AM
Congratulations Edward. I got home from the Rock yesterday and jumped on the computer to find that you had "the Peril" for Sale?? Then I checked my eBay and saw what you'd picked up!
I had it on watch myself, but missed its re-listing. It could have been a 3-way battle for it it appears!. (May well still be on the track!). Hope it is a good thing for you. Cheers, Craig.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: alfagtv58 on February 12, 2007, 11:35:40 AM
OK Edward.....I need to know, what have you bought??
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on February 12, 2007, 12:46:06 PM
An ex Targa Tassie 77 GTV - allwork done for Sc - motor, brakes, suspension, lightening, exhaust, rollcage.  just needs a coat of paint and a polish and to replace the 16" rims selling them and probably the Terra trip computer as well.  will probably swap out the steering wheel over for a more period version but that is it.

will put it on H plates and will run this now @ P.I. instead of the "Yelllow Peril" which is now for sale.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on February 12, 2007, 12:48:46 PM
Quote from: Craig Sinclair on February 12, 2007, 10:28:29 AM
Congratulations Edward. I got home from the Rock yesterday and jumped on the computer to find that you had "the Peril" for Sale?? Then I checked my eBay and saw what you'd picked up!
I had it on watch myself, but missed its re-listing. It could have been a 3-way battle for it it appears!. (May well still be on the track!). Hope it is a good thing for you. Cheers, Craig.
Thanks Craig. It was a popular car in the end and i am confident this is the car for me.  Now i need to sell the yellow one quickly and of course Colin G's is for sale which is a great car.
Good luck in your search, decision as to which car to go for.
Great talking to you yesterday @ the Rock.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: branko.gt on February 12, 2007, 05:34:02 PM
Quote from: Edward Hellsten on February 12, 2007, 12:46:06 PM
An ex Targa Tassie 77 GTV - allwork done for Sc - motor, brakes, suspension, lightening, exhaust, rollcage.  just needs a coat of paint and a polish and to replace the 16" rims selling them and probably the Terra trip computer as well.  will probably swap out the steering wheel over for a more period version but that is it.

will put it on H plates and will run this now @ P.I. instead of the "Yelllow Peril" which is now for sale.


You do realise that alloy rollcage without a current logbook is not allowed. As far as I understand CAMS will not issue new logbook for a car with an alloy rollcage.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on February 12, 2007, 06:30:23 PM
Thankyou o pessimistic one.  It has a logbook.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Colin Byrne on February 12, 2007, 06:35:57 PM
Nice one edward.  I'll definatly be interested in that terratrip to!
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: branko.gt on February 12, 2007, 08:38:53 PM
Quote from: Edward Hellsten on February 12, 2007, 06:30:23 PM
Thankyou o pessimistic one.  It has a logbook.
8)
that is absolutelly brilliant!   ;D i thought that the eBay auction stated that he did not have a current logbook. ???

is that a half a cage? and alloy, you could not make it any lighter then that !  ;D
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Scott Farquharson on February 12, 2007, 10:18:00 PM
What is it logged as?  Not sure what they may do with the cage if converting from say Group 2 to Group S?  If it already Group S then no problem.  Good get.  Wondered who might pick it up.  Good to see it going to a good home.  Now we need someone to pick up the Yellow peril!
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on February 13, 2007, 02:00:29 PM
Allow me to clarify...

The has been issued a log book by CAMS in 1998.  However the current actual book itself has been missplaced by the previous owner. :o
BUT a replacement log book is being produced by CAMS as we speak which i have requested in time for the P.I. historic event which i expect to be confirmed tomorrow.  Failing that, the cage can be removed in 30 minutes if one removes the 2 x front seats. :P

i love the look of this cage so am very keen to keep it as a going concern.

I havent confirmed what class the book is for but i do suspect 2B.  But after P.I. i will look into upgrading the cage and re-log booking it as a Group Sc car. :)

Still a damn cheap, fully prepped car which i am hanging out to get behind the wheel of which will hopefully be this Friday ;D
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: alfagtv58 on February 13, 2007, 02:08:33 PM
Pics please!! ;D

So is Winton Historics in May the plan then (pending sale of the rest of the garage)?
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on February 13, 2007, 03:22:30 PM
Perhaps, Phil, perhaps
Initial pics attached.  Will add some more once i collect it Friday.
Title: Re: The " Yellow Peril" Group Sc GTV project
Post by: Fast Eddie on February 22, 2007, 11:10:57 PM
Yellow Peril racing is no more -

The car sold 20 minutes ago and will be on it's way back accross the Nullabor to WA form whence it came. ;D