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Racing => Historic Group S Racing => Topic started by: Scott Farquharson on November 15, 2006, 12:25:00 PM

Title: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Scott Farquharson on November 15, 2006, 12:25:00 PM
These are the CAMS Historic Group S Specification Sheets for eligible Alfa vehicles.

The Alfetta GT (1.8L) is attached below, the Alfetta GTV (2.0L) and other models are to come.  I will upload as soon as I get them.

The specification sheet is the approved Group S specification for a particular model.  Vehicles must comply with this specification and should be read inconjunction with the Group S technical rules contained in the CAMS manual (also in the download section).  Don't forget that you can run the larger engine from later models as per previous discussion on the forum. (no Twin Sparks of course)
Title: Re: Historic Group S - Alfetta Specification Sheets
Post by: alfagtv58 on November 15, 2006, 02:37:02 PM
Thats correct Branko, it is for an Alfetta GT, not GTV.  I requested a GTV one but was sent the wrong one, as Scott has a GT I sent it to him!!  I will get back to CAMS tomorrow when the guy who I spoke to will be in again.  I will post a copy when I get it.
Title: Re: Historic Group S - Alfetta Specification Sheets
Post by: Paul Newby on November 15, 2006, 03:56:56 PM
These are the CAMS Historic Group S Specification Sheets for Alfetta's

Alfetta GT
Alfetta GTV (to come)

Hi Scott

I'm curious to see what is on these spec sheets, but am unable to download the pdf due to forewall issues.

Can you PM me?

Cheers
Paul
Title: Re: Historic Group S - Alfetta Specification Sheets
Post by: Scott Farquharson on November 15, 2006, 04:58:20 PM
There is a specification sheet for each vehicle - as soon as we have other I will upload them.

Paul, I will email it to you.
Title: Historic Group S - 1750 GTVeloce spec sheet
Post by: branko.gt on November 15, 2006, 06:20:38 PM
Here is the 1750 GTVeloce spec sheet
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: alfagtv58 on November 28, 2006, 11:33:37 AM
I just noticed on Branko's Spec sheet for the 1750 GTV, the wheel (& tyre) size allowed states "6 x 14 or 15".
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Scott Farquharson on November 28, 2006, 11:43:19 AM
But you still have to run 60% series tires...
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: branko.gt on November 28, 2006, 11:49:51 AM
I just noticed on Branko's Spec sheet for the 1750 GTV, the wheel (& tyre) size allowed states "6 x 14 or 15".

On the other hand Alfetta GT can only have 14" wheels.  ???
Interestingly brake calipers for alfetta GT are listed as "ATE alloy".  :o  ??? ;)  :D

It would appear that CAMS historic commision is not the best informed body and their specifications are full of arbitrary prescriptions which they then insist on adhering to religiously! Gotta love CAMS !  ???

Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: vin sharp on December 01, 2006, 09:56:05 PM
I just noticed on Branko's Spec sheet for the 1750 GTV, the wheel (& tyre) size allowed states "6 x 14 or 15".

On the other hand Alfetta GT can only have 14" wheels.  ???
Interestingly brake calipers for alfetta GT are listed as "ATE alloy".  :o  ??? ;)  :D

It would appear that CAMS historic commision is not the best informed body and their specifications are full of arbitrary prescriptions which they then insist on adhering to religiously! Gotta love CAMS !  ???


HINT...any discrepancies in CAMS specs that are an advantage to you are to be strictly adhered to.....discreetly of course.....!
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Scott Farquharson on January 10, 2007, 09:51:26 AM
Looking at the Specification sheets it has become apparent that there are a number of errors and inconsistencies in these documents.  Please let me know if you have any issues with these sheets and I will compile them and pass them onto the eligibility officer and CAMS.  One example is the location of the battery - the Alfetta sheet specifies that the location is under the bonnet - this is incorrect, many had the battery in the boot (if they had a/c).  Any others let me know.
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Fast Eddie on January 10, 2007, 09:56:15 AM
I assume you kept the queries we raised at our inaugural Group S meeting and will raise these?  I cant remember all of them just now but we had a handful.

cheers.
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Scott Farquharson on January 10, 2007, 05:08:01 PM
Yep - got those.
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Beatle on March 14, 2007, 08:54:45 PM
Looking at the Specification sheets it has become apparent that there are a number of errors and inconsistencies in these documents.  Please let me know if you have any issues with these sheets and I will compile them and pass them onto the eligibility officer and CAMS.  One example is the location of the battery - the Alfetta sheet specifies that the location is under the bonnet - this is incorrect, many had the battery in the boot (if they had a/c).  Any others let me know.

Scott, you sure on this ?  I've had both a '76 GT and a '79 GTV with air and both had the battery at front LHS of the engine bay.  Regardless, it would be WAY preferable to stick it in the boot away from the exhaust.

Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Scott Farquharson on March 15, 2007, 11:08:07 AM
Cars with A/C had the battery in the boot.
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Neil Choi on March 15, 2007, 12:44:52 PM
I second that, my a/c equipped GTV has the battery in left corner of boot, car soon to be GpS eventually!!!!  Possibly cream/ivory white, any other colour suggestions.  Or should I go with the majority and do RED.

Neil
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Fast Eddie on March 15, 2007, 02:09:05 PM
Yeah, my 77 had the battery up front ( i moved to boot).  My 79 has battery in the boot.

Neil, keep it white, not red... mine is red and it is going silver (when i get a job and can afford the paintjob). it was silver during its Targa and GP rally history(albeit it red originally ::) and it'll never look as good as Phils' and presumably Scott's.
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Beatle on March 15, 2007, 06:29:57 PM
Cars with A/C had the battery in the boot.

My '79 had 25K kms on it when I bought it, from an Alfa dealer, and it certainly had factory air and had the battery under the bonnet sitting on a factory battery tray that was welded to the bodywork.  Must have been onew of those Alfa things where they just did what they felt like on the day !
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Scott Farquharson on March 16, 2007, 12:49:07 PM
Yes, that may well be the case, we have about a doz of them here and it varies form car to car.  The blue GT has it in the boot, but with no air!  Go figure.

But the point is that the spec sheet is wrong.  It is also has inconsistencies relating to suspension as well.
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Martyn on December 21, 2007, 11:48:55 PM
I have received CAMS vehicle specification sheets for Alfetta GT and GTV.
The GT seems to have more options on suspension than GTV. Plus other anomalies.
I am in the throes of commencing to build an Sc Alfetta here in WA with a view to having some fun one day with you guys.
Should we discuss here or go to CAMS.
Regards
Martyn
Rusty Racer

Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: alfagtv58 on December 22, 2007, 09:03:26 AM
Hi Martin,

The GT seems to have more options on suspension than GTV. Plus other anomalies.

I never noticed the suspension differences...what are they ??? It would be nice if we could lower the watts link!!!

Happy to discuss here, maybe you should start a seperate thread with details of your build, pics etc.

Cheers,

Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Rob Berson on December 22, 2007, 09:10:35 AM
Any chance somebody can post these specification sheets on here.
I e-mailed CAMS for them a while ago but never heard from them.
Robert
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Scott Farquharson on December 22, 2007, 12:57:54 PM
Hi Rob,  The Alfetta GT and 105 1750 are on page 1.  Which one were you after?
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Rob Berson on December 22, 2007, 01:58:54 PM
Hi Scott

I'm after the spec sheet for an alfetta gtv 2.0

Thanks
Rob
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Martyn on December 22, 2007, 10:40:18 PM
I will scan CAMS document for GTV and try and start a new post for this item on this board.
I,m new to this sort of so it may take me a tad of time .
Regards
Martyn
Rusty Racer
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Scott Farquharson on December 23, 2007, 12:46:54 AM
I have it as well so one of us will get it scanned and posted.
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Rob Berson on December 23, 2007, 07:36:10 PM
Thanks guys - will keep a look out.

Rob
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: alfagtv58 on September 05, 2008, 02:57:29 PM
Alfetta GTV Spec
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: Gary Pearce on September 06, 2008, 07:31:24 AM
Has anyone got a 105 Spec sheet?
Title: Re: Historic Group S - CAMS Vehicle Specification Sheets
Post by: alfagtv58 on September 06, 2008, 08:38:11 PM
Which one Gary, I assume the 2000?

Branko loaded the 1750 one on the previous page of this thread.  I am not sure about the 2000 one though, if you ring CAMS they should be able to provide one.  I think the Group S Assoc is currently trying to get ALL of the spec sheets CAMS have available, hopefully they should be available for download eventually from the Grp S website.