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Technical => 116 Series (Alfetta Sedan/GT/GTV & Giulietta Sedan) => Topic started by: GTVeloce on May 08, 2023, 11:41:07 AM

Title: HVAC rebuild
Post by: GTVeloce on May 08, 2023, 11:41:07 AM
Just finished rebuilding the HVAC from the GTV. There was quite a bit that needed repair and replacement. There was a number of cracks in the housing which needed repair. All the foam had perished (not surprising after 35+ years). The thermostat needed to be replaced. Other things I did to improve it were;

Bench tested everything and very happy with the result. The fan is off when the switch is off but after a few degrees of movement the fan very slowly begins to turn, ramping up to full speed after about 180o of rotation of the knob.

Previously I had replaced the resisters with the 75 style ones which were better as the lowest setting was too fast for my liking but this is even better. A bit of fiddling around to make it work. The unit is off ebay but the pot that came with it was too small (physically) and the wiring too short as I wanted to mount the device outside the HVAC unit. Extended the wires and installed a bigger pot (Jaycar). Then had to grind the pot down so that the original fan knob would fit (I wanted it to look factory inside the car).
Title: Re: HVAC rebuild
Post by: Anth73 on May 08, 2023, 08:20:48 PM
Love your work! I've wondered if anyone has tried 3D printing a new heater / AC housing but redesigned the internals so that it operates a pusher fan and more efficient evaporator?
Title: Re: HVAC rebuild
Post by: GTVeloce on May 09, 2023, 10:06:34 AM
I did look at that while I had it apart. I think the answer would involve (assuming you are trying to keep it looking fairly original) adding an external single barrel fan under the glovebox (or instead of) that feeds into the rear of the HVAC unit. A more efficient evaporator in the same location and then you would have space to setup a blend door and a smaller heater matrix setup at an angle to the evaporator. Air is then pushed by the fan through the evaporator and is then directed either through or around the heater (or part thereof) depending on temperature required. This would also mean the heater tap would no longer be needed cleaning up the interior and removing a common failure point.

I decided I wasn't happy with how much force was required to operate the heater tap on my current setup so bought a bicycle brake cable and used the outer sheath to replace the original. Much easier to slide now.
Title: Re: HVAC rebuild
Post by: MD on May 12, 2023, 08:23:00 PM
There is an extensive discussion on 116 air issue in the topic that I started in 2009. Perhaps you have not seen it. Lots of information regarding the total problems with these systems.

Must be a common problem, it has been read over 13,000 times.

https://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=2990.0 (https://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=2990.0)
Title: Re: HVAC rebuild
Post by: John.Heidemann on May 18, 2023, 06:52:26 PM
My GTV6 didn't have the aircon onboard when I found it but putting it back in is still on my wishlist. Thanks for all the tips.
Title: Re: HVAC rebuild
Post by: GTVeloce on May 18, 2023, 10:52:55 PM
My AC rebuild is setup as such;

Many of these things MD has mentioned in his posts. I haven't gone to some of the lengths as I am trying to maintain a mostly factory look inside the cabin. I am also toying with blocking off the fresh air vents on the side as they just duct hot air and I never use them. Ideally I would like to run ducting from the HVAC unit to the side air vents but I'm not confident there is room without major modifications.

Last year I had to recover the headliner on my 75 and while it was off I covered the roof in heat resistant lining (dynaliner) which made a big difference to heat load in the car. Would like to do the same on the GTV but don't want to take the headlining off!