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Technical => 932 Series (156, GTV, Spider, 147, GT, and 166) => Topic started by: Kay_147_GTA on April 21, 2019, 12:15:22 PM

Title: How to replace slave clutch cylinder hose?
Post by: Kay_147_GTA on April 21, 2019, 12:15:22 PM
So I've noticed for a while now that my clutch seems to be getting air into it as well as leaking fluid, so I thought I'd have a look at the slave cylinder yesterday. The cylinder itself looks fine and I'm told was fairly new by the previous owner however I noticed an oily substance (can't work out of clutch fluid or not) at the bottom of the hose and what looks like a crack on the inner curve of the hose where it goes into the joint (circled red). I'm going to assume this crack is the cause of the air in / fluid out however I can't seem to work out how to change the hose? Not sure how it's connected into the joint on both ends? Is it a complete unit? If so, I can't seem to find it as a spare anywhere? I've been searching for clutch slave cylinder hose? I have removed most of the liquid in the picture from the hose.

Any help would be appreciated!
Title: Re: How to replace slave clutch cylinder hose?
Post by: Pseudonym on April 21, 2019, 01:06:03 PM
Take the whole thing off and get enzed or hosemaster to make a new one. It looks like they'd cut it off and weld the new fitting on, which will probably still work out cheaper than oem

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Title: Re: How to replace slave clutch cylinder hose?
Post by: Kay_147_GTA on April 22, 2019, 10:44:02 AM
Thanks Sportiva, I think I will need to replace the hose, where did you find the link for that picture please?
Title: Re: How to replace slave clutch cylinder hose?
Post by: Kay_147_GTA on April 22, 2019, 04:44:26 PM
Thanks, that part doesn't quite look the same as the one for the GTA though. After a lot of Googling I think I have found the part number which is KS3200 which is specific for the GTA.
Title: Re: How to replace slave clutch cylinder hose?
Post by: bazzbazz on April 22, 2019, 09:12:44 PM
That doesn't sound right for the part number. Give me the Vin# of your car and I will see if I can find the correct part #. Might make tracking the right part down easier.
Title: Re: How to replace slave clutch cylinder hose?
Post by: Citroënbender on April 22, 2019, 09:33:01 PM
Bazz, do you get 55186526 also?

(Discontinued, BTW.)
Title: Re: How to replace slave clutch cylinder hose?
Post by: bazzbazz on April 22, 2019, 11:24:48 PM
Just remove that section of hose and take it to any hydraulic hose repair service provider. I reckon it would cost $50-$100 to refurbish to like new.

Hell of a lot cheaper than new original hose would cost, even if you could find one.
Title: Re: How to replace slave clutch cylinder hose?
Post by: Kay_147_GTA on April 23, 2019, 09:33:34 AM
This is my VIN ZAR93700005167009
Title: Re: How to replace slave clutch cylinder hose?
Post by: Kay_147_GTA on April 23, 2019, 09:36:03 AM
This is the site & diagram where I found that part number:

http://alfa-magic.jp/shop-category-1033.html 
Title: Re: How to replace slave clutch cylinder hose?
Post by: Citroënbender on April 23, 2019, 09:48:38 AM
Unfortunately, the annotation "生産終了" means discontinued!
Title: Re: How to replace slave clutch cylinder hose?
Post by: Kay_147_GTA on April 23, 2019, 09:53:51 AM
Bah! Might just have to do what BazzBazz suggest and take it to an Enzed and get them to replace the tubing. Might even get them to make the tubing slightly longer so there's not so much stress on the rubber at the bottom bend.
Title: Re: How to replace slave clutch cylinder hose?
Post by: Citroënbender on April 23, 2019, 11:45:19 AM
Some thoughts:

First the hose as photographed looks different to the spares listings - maybe it has been improvised, shonked or mis-routed previously? It looks like the end furthest from the slave, terminates with the flex line - not into a hardline.

Second, there are brake places who could make up something to suit, you're not necessarily stuck with Pirtek etc.

Thirdly, last I dealt with a hose doctor for a comparable job it was $165 and that was 2012!
Title: Re: How to replace slave clutch cylinder hose?
Post by: Pseudonym on April 23, 2019, 01:48:13 PM
Yeah I had a similar power steering hose on a Nissan done by enzed, $100 a few years back. Nissan could get it but for something like $160+GST

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Title: Re: How to replace slave clutch cylinder hose?
Post by: Kay_147_GTA on April 26, 2019, 07:08:20 PM
So I've been down to Enzed and Pirtek and they both say the same, bring the hose in and they'll see what they can do.

So, how do I remove the hose from the end going away from the slave cylinder? I can unscrew the hard line where it goes into the slave but not sure about the other end?

Also, any tricks for stopping clutch fluid going everywhere?
Title: Re: How to replace slave clutch cylinder hose?
Post by: Citroënbender on April 27, 2019, 07:14:03 PM
Make up a dummy cap for the remaining hard line, out of an old flex line or new fitting, brazed shut. That will keep the loss of DOT4 to a minimum.

Why not see what a proper brake place can do? Doesn't have to be Hoppers but a well-tooled workshop with hose and hard line fabrication ability.
Title: Re: How to replace slave clutch cylinder hose?
Post by: Kay_147_GTA on April 29, 2019, 01:07:02 PM
Just had a call from Richmond Brakes & Clutch, they reckon it will cost somewhere between $70 - 150 but they can't say until I take it into them. 
Title: Re: How to replace slave clutch cylinder hose?
Post by: Kay_147_GTA on May 20, 2019, 03:48:10 PM
Took it Alfa Men for a service, they had a look and identified that it was actually the Slave Cylinder that was leaking into the boot, had that changed and so far everything is fine!

I'm sure I'll need that split in the hose changed at some point though  :/