Alfa Romeo Owners Club of Australia Forum

Technical => 950 Series (Giulia) => Topic started by: alfagtv100 (Biggus) on May 12, 2018, 11:21:11 PM

Title: Alfa Romeo needs a break
Post by: alfagtv100 (Biggus) on May 12, 2018, 11:21:11 PM
Hi all,

I have not visited the forum for a while due to the distractions of North Korea and Syria.
Not meaning to be 'challenging' but why don't people have anything to discuss about the Giulia within the forum of the Alfa Romeo Owners Club of Australia?
Seems bizarre to me, considering FCA answered our prayers - RWD, not shit, actually very good.
Is it simply due to the fact that not much goes wrong with these cars (so, not many 'please help' posts), or because not even an Alfisti would buy a current generation, Alfa Romeo?

Is Alfa Romeo dead?

Just asking.
Title: Re: Alfa Romeo needs a break
Post by: poohbah on May 13, 2018, 11:18:00 AM
We're all saving up ... and waiting two years for Alfa depreciation to kick in...
Title: Re: Alfa Romeo needs a break
Post by: Australia on May 13, 2018, 11:21:13 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Alfa Romeo needs a break
Post by: bazzbazz on May 13, 2018, 12:36:55 PM
Maybe there are no posts on Giulias because everyone is too busy out enjoying them?  ;)
Title: Re: Alfa Romeo needs a break
Post by: Paul Gulliver on May 13, 2018, 06:35:15 PM
Might be a bit early for a Giulia " Barn Find Story" or a Giulia ashtray restoration project.
Title: Re: Alfa Romeo needs a break
Post by: sportiva on May 13, 2018, 07:22:09 PM
Is Alfa dead
There have been many generations of Alfisti over the 100 + years of Alfas existence each time the company had a generational change the previous generation said "The last of the true Alfa Romeos"
It was said in the fifties with mass production then in the seventies when the 105 was replaced by the Alfetta and the Sud plant opened. Then in the eighties the F.I.A.T. take over, that for me was the end of the true Alfas, There is a generation that like the front drive Fiats variants I have one and its not a patch on a real Alfa. The Giulia is part of the F.I.A.T group. I do acknowledge that a faction in the FIAT empire has finally woken to the fact that the real Alfas of the past were stand out cars and different, with a level of performance and engineering that was class leading the QV Giulia meets that benchmark lets just hope the next generation get to drive Alfas with the essence of the real Alfas of the past.
Title: Re: Alfa Romeo needs a break
Post by: ALF750 on May 04, 2021, 01:07:16 PM
old thread, but hey, no new discussion on these models really so I'll post here.   Just bought a used Stelvio QV and drove it 1400km home.   I haven't driven a 105 or earlier Alfa - the 116 and 160 is more my area of expertise.   Didn't have any windy roads to try out either, unfortunately.    I don't want to be negative (I just spent a lot of money on it!), but a heavy SUV will never feel like an Alfa of old.   Throwing a light well balanced car into the corners and snicking through the (manual) gears is something alien to modern car buyers, I think (or maybe that's why they rave about the MX-5).   But. few build cars like that, and fewer people buy them apparently.   We need to keep the old cars going as a benchmark - my '79 Alfetta 2.0 surprises with it's daily practicality.   The Stelvio has enormous power but I felt a bit disconnected from the controls.    The auto gearbox, is an auto gearbox, and I haven't explored driving it with the paddles much to see if that improves the experience.    I keep wanting to use my left foot!    The steering is surprisingly heavy and is direct.   Due to alignment set up and tyre width there is some tramtracking - it is nervous on our bumpy country roads,.   I'm going to experiment with the setup when I get a chance and de-sensitize it, as I don't plan lapping the 'ring any time soon.   The brakes are incredible, but difficult to modulate at low speed about town (steel not C), and both pedals a bit light cf. the steering.   I went with the Stelvio over the Giulia as I live west of the ranges and the extra ground clearance is handy, as is the AWD when required, plus the load space.   And, as we get old climbing up out of the 'daily driver' wears thin - I plan to keep it a fair while.   I might have bought a fuel guzzling dinosaur, but you won't be able to buy a car like this in a few years I suspect.   Forza Alfa!
Title: Re: Alfa Romeo needs a break
Post by: poohbah on May 06, 2021, 07:58:58 PM
I reckon we'll still be able to buy them in a few years and probably with an even bigger than usual Alfa depreciation discount.  But we probably won't be able to drive or insure them...
Title: Re: Alfa Romeo needs a break
Post by: Australia on May 07, 2021, 06:56:32 AM
With the UK banning all ICE cars from 2030 there wont be much development or even fresh updates for Alfas fir the RHD market post 2025 is my bet.  Alfa really needs to talk up EVs if they are to survive.
Title: Re: Alfa Romeo needs a break
Post by: bazzbazz on May 07, 2021, 10:07:09 AM
Lats face it, if they made a performance EV version of one of these they couldnt keep up with demand here.

But then you'd also have the problem of bogans driving Alfas!    :o

(https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/alfa-romeo-giulia-pickup-truck-rendering-is-so-cute-but-wrong-102469_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Alfa Romeo needs a break
Post by: aggie57 on May 08, 2021, 01:07:02 AM
With the UK banning all ICE cars from 2030 there wont be much development or even fresh updates for Alfas fir the RHD market post 2025 is my bet.  Alfa really needs to talk up EVs if they are to survive.
They are.  The current Giulia platform is ditched, new EV platforms only going forward.

https://www.autoblog.com/2021/04/22/alfa-romeo-kills-giorgio-platform-giulia-stelvio/
Title: Re: Alfa Romeo needs a break
Post by: Australia on May 08, 2021, 08:03:37 AM
Told you. Alfa drives won't be the same.
Title: Re: Alfa Romeo needs a break
Post by: poohbah on May 10, 2021, 01:57:30 PM
Bugger.

I've seen all the camo-pics of the next-gen Maserati sedan and SUVs and both use the Giulia/Stelvio chassis, but the sedan profile looks ridiculous to be honest cos its got a stretched front end (what's the point of stretching the chassis without adding to cabin space?).

Typical - They'll take the best and most authentic Alfa ingredients in decades and limit them to the most unaffordable brand in the "family".

Instead, Alfa will be left with rebadged bloody Peugeot hatchbacks.

Title: Re: Alfa Romeo needs a break
Post by: Alfapride on May 10, 2021, 08:46:20 PM
Ronís rides did a video saying another report came out saying the platform isnít dropped for Alfa...hope heís right and it stays for Alfa so we got authentic Alfa cars...goes to show however if it is ditched this is what happens people donít support the brand enough globally with new purchases
Title: Re: Alfa Romeo needs a break
Post by: bazzbazz on May 11, 2021, 01:38:47 AM
Ronís rides did a video saying another report came out saying the platform isnít dropped for Alfa...hope heís right and it stays for Alfa so we got authentic Alfa cars...goes to show however if it is ditched this is what happens people donít support the brand enough globally with new purchases

Well, here in Australia there is only one place to blame, Alfa Romeo Australia! (In its current organisational configuration)

I have never known of an enterprise that has done more to go out of its way to sink it's own brand, and at every opportunity to sabotage it's own sales.

And this is from a person who loves the brand, its character, it's automotive achievements & history.

When I was younger I looked upon Alfa Romeo as a elite marque of automotive engineering, and would never have believed that I would one day own one, never mind about work on them.
Title: Re: Alfa Romeo needs a break
Post by: Australia on May 12, 2021, 04:37:30 AM


Well, here in Australia there is only one place to blame, Alfa Romeo Australia! (In its current organisational configuration)



They were too interested in sponsoring Polo and not trying to sell the passion of the cars to a newer audience.