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Technical => 116 Series (Alfetta Sedan/GT/GTV & Giulietta Sedan) => Topic started by: carlo rossi on October 22, 2017, 09:38:44 AM

Title: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: carlo rossi on October 22, 2017, 09:38:44 AM
this my friend is a beast
Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: bonno on October 22, 2017, 11:08:47 AM
Hi Carlo
Definitely a real beast and the engine transplant looks like it was made for the Alfetta GTV. I have not come across the car at any local club events in Sydney or Canberra. I suppose it is a recent transplant or a regional country vehicle.
Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: carlo rossi on October 22, 2017, 07:46:30 PM
newcastle car
he has a habit of building or repairing exotic
beasts
i believe it has a ferrari 360 inlet throttle body ( copy) electric water pump
etc 330 hp and its not A TURBO
says volumes about the car and its chassis to handle this
Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: Paul Gulliver on October 22, 2017, 08:32:05 PM
 "i believe it has a ferrari 360 inlet throttle body ( copy) electric water pump
etc 330 hp and its not A TURBO
says volumes about the car and its chassis to handle this"

At 330 hp the chassis would be fine , but the drive shaft &  transaxle would be pretty nervous.
Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: Duk on October 23, 2017, 03:54:23 PM
Can you tell us any more about the chassis work? There's obviously some additional tubing and the lateral brace, plus the seam welding.
Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: rowan_bris on October 23, 2017, 04:20:55 PM
And what looks distinctly like a roll cage. 
Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: Duk on October 23, 2017, 05:07:26 PM
Plus no brake booster and the bonnet that looks like it's held on witth pins.

Track car with number plates?
Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: poohbah on October 23, 2017, 05:10:42 PM
Got any more pics Carlo, so we can see the whole car?

Wish the engine bay of my GTV looked like that....
Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: carlo rossi on October 23, 2017, 05:49:11 PM
outboard rear discs recaro race seats harnesses
a weekend tracker
hes thinking about selling
fibreglass bonnet
I really think this is the ultimate incarnation of a gtv
1000kg and 350hp
woohoo
Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: ejs308 on October 27, 2017, 01:37:05 PM
here are some more details of the car

AP brakes front & rear
pedal box - adjustable bias
seam welded & plated front end
strut brace
front adjustable coil overs [no torsion bars]
Custom upper & lower control arms
drop spindles
adjustable rear end
twin spark box
quick shift kit
seats are 3.9kg Kevlar
Perspex all round
fibreglass bonnet, t/gate
fibreglass dash [flocked]
VDO gauges
Motec ecu
PWR radiator
electric water pump
Aeroflow tanks, braided hoses, billet fuel pump & filter, fitting. connections
Engine [with all conversion parts], pedal box, ECU & wiring, plus lots of help & advice supplied by Claude Botti in Melbourne [thanks Claude]
There may be more that I have forgotten
More pictures to come
Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: Dna Dave on October 27, 2017, 01:58:17 PM
Some photos of Ewans beast
Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: Dna Dave on October 27, 2017, 02:02:26 PM
More photos
Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: poohbah on October 27, 2017, 02:53:37 PM
Man oh man, what a beauty. Inspiring stuff.
Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: bonno on October 27, 2017, 04:25:18 PM
Hi Guys
I have to take my hat off on the excellent workmanship and Re-Engineering of the Alfetta GTV by Ewan and Claude to incorporate the 3,2 litre 24 valve engine transplant. Have seen many modifications incorporating similar engine configuration on the internet over time, but this would have to rank as one of the most impressive. Hope to catch up on an AROCA NSW event in the near future or at Alfesta 2018 over the Easter weekend (AROCA NSW hosting).
Cheers
bonno
Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: Duk on October 30, 2017, 01:01:30 PM
What does the car use for a handbrake?
How, eh-hem, 'legal' is it with the outboard rear brakes, no booster and cage?
Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: Al Campbell on October 30, 2017, 01:47:10 PM
Quote from: Paul Gulliver on October 22, 2017, 08:32:05 PM
"i believe it has a ferrari 360 inlet throttle body ( copy) electric water pump
etc 330 hp and its not A TURBO
says volumes about the car and its chassis to handle this"

At 330 hp the chassis would be fine , but the drive shaft &  transaxle would be pretty nervous.

Have to agree. I thought from years ago it was accepted that anything above 300Hp would make short work of the transaxle. Probably going to be torn to pieces but race car owners now.
Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: Duk on October 30, 2017, 03:36:22 PM
Later model TA had better synchos.
The 75 turbo's would have churned out the most torque and their TAs survived. People have turbo'd and supercharged the V6s and the TA can survive behind those too.
Definitely not a bullet proof unit, but still useable and upgradable for reasonable power levels. And much more realistic than trying to impliment an Albins TA on anything less than 450+hp with force fed torque.
Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: carlo rossi on December 27, 2017, 02:19:07 PM
well i spoke to Ewan on the weekend and was shocked that  he sold it to sydney to one of the guys in the club,
but i will let him tell you .
Cant believe it after all that work

Title: Re: alfetta GTVV 3.2 busso gta
Post by: Duk on December 28, 2017, 06:26:51 PM
I have to admit that I'm rather curious about the power numbers of the engine.
Those power numbers just seemed to grow thru the corse of the thread (the last one was 350hp), but there were no mention of any real engine work.
Certainly there are no adjustable cam gears, the plenum chamber is basically standard (and far from a great design in standard form).
A set of extractors, a big throttle body, a pod filter hoovering up hot air and a programmable computer don't get the Alfa engine past 100hp/litre.
If the thing was actually achieving 330hp, 330hp @ (say) 7000rpm would need the thing to still be making 248lb/ft of torque at 7000 rpm.
Unless there are some decent camshafts in that engine, some attention to detail in the ports, plus extra compression, I doubt that is happening.