Hello all
While at Spettacolo I took the opportunity to get the build dates of the 4 GTV6 GP's there.
There is not much info about in regards to the GP and yes, I am a bit of a geek when it comes to such things. Okay a super geek.
Anyway the build dates were as follows:
Car 1 June 1986 (my car)
Car 2 July 1986
Car 3 July 1986
Car 4 September 1986 (owner states this car was first registered in Victoria 1990)
All 4 cars red of course with tan interiors
Any other owners our there?
Alan
Hi Alan,
Unfortunately I couldn't make it last Sunday, I have a Grand Prix GTV6 also with Black Interior.
I will Check the build date in the next couple of days.
Regards,
Phil
My GTV6 GP built sep 86,first reg in australia 87,red exterior with tan cloth interior with sunroof,guess this was standard,my car was first owned in melb,previous owner to me brought it up to syd,bought it about 8 months ago,he had spent quite a bit of money on respray and engine rebuild plus has koni yellows fitted,drives beautifully,best alfa i have owned by a mile and definitely best looking,its a surprise how much interest it gets out on the street,have wanted to post photos on this forum but having trouble reducing size of photos that would fit this site,anyhow nice to hear from other owners of this classic car. ciao
A couple of shots of my car.
Alan
hi all,
alan good to see you have started this thread, my car is a june build, with black trim.My car was purchased new from five dock, it was first registered on the 01/06/87,from what i can gather it has had a few owners, in 1991 i have the dealer paperwork which reads the car was for sale with 49,131klms for $29990 at brian foley alfa. I was told when i purchased the car 2 years ago that the black trimmed gp's were rarer than the tan trimmed cars, it will be interesting to see if this is just a rumour based on the details we can get from this thread. My car used to have the number plates gtv6gp for most of its life, the guy i bought it from kept the plates, it now has gtv5ix. Also if we can get some photos of the cars alongside the details that would be great. Like lombardi i havent worked out how to reduce the pics small enough to upload them.
cheers michael
Quadrifoglio story from December 1986.
I cant get these images exactly the right size!
Alan
Sorry, this one has the Quadrifoglio story.
If you exceed the 256kb limit the system deletes the first image uploaded :P
Alan
thanks alan , its always good to see articles on these cars , i have nothing in terms of publications on the gp's.
cheers michael
Thanks for the story as well Alan. Its difficult to get information on this particular model and I would be interested to know just how many were sold in Australia.
For the record my GTV GP is an April 86 build and was sold in Nov 86 by Alec Mildren in North Sydney. I bought it in 1994 from Brian Foley and am the 3rd owner.
Colour is red with black interior. I suspect you may be right Michael re the black interiors, over the years I seem to only have seen tan interior cars.
Cheers
Steve
rok_dr,
hi, your car looks very nice in the avatar, are you able to post pics.
thanks michael
Here you go Michael. One from the Northam Flying 50 and another from the Italian car day, both this year.
Cheers Steve
I am loving these photos of GP's!
A picture of the Swiss and Belgian markets Grand Prix.
Car is identical to the Australian model except that it has a silver/grey decal down the side with the words 'GRAND PRIX'.
I'm glad they came here without the decal!
German GP's are quite different in appearance, they look more like a GTV6 with a Zender body kit.
Alan
Doh, forgot the picture again!
Cheers
Alan
German GP images from sales catalogue.
Its going to be hard to see in the image but the centre console is completely different from standard GTV6.
Al
steve,
thanks for the pics, your car looks sensational. ( does it still have the rear spoiler )
alan, i agree with you about that decal along the side, i think the aussie version looks the best, leather trim would be nice though.
cheers michael :)
Whoever has a GTV6 GP with black trim and would like to sell it, let me know. I have only seen ones with the tan trim and always thought all the GP's came in tan trim. Hence, I never even looked at the GP's. However, now that I know black trimmed GP's are available, I shall hopefully start my quest..... :)
Cheers,
Brian
Rok Dr why does your GTV6 Grand Prix not have its Grand Prix front grille?
Was your GTV6 pranged or did the Grand Prix grille get damaged? ???
Michael I removed the spoiler a few years ago as the metal bar inside had rusted out on one side. Still have it in the shed and one day may get it refurbished and fiitted again..
Vee Six, Yes I see what you mean re the grill. Have never noticed the difference before. It has been on the car since I bought it. To the best of my knowledge (and an inspection when I bought it in 94) it hadnever been in a prang. So either Alfa in their unique way fitted the older grill (using up older parts at the start of the new model run), which they have been known to do for other models or the previous owner changed it. From the dates posted on this post I suspect that my car may be an early build of the series. Might also explain the black interior as well....
Steve
steve,
hi, yeah my rear spoiler also rotted from the inside out, it was supplied with the car when i bought it , i also wanted to get it refurbished and took it to a couple of trimmers in hope, i think a fibreglass copy or even maybe a zender type maybe the way to go???.
cheers michael
Grand Prix's only came with
John.
hi all here are some pics of my car; (hope this works)
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb168/blacka9x/Picture006-1.jpg)
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb168/blacka9x/Picture028.jpg)
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb168/blacka9x/Picture023.jpg)
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb168/blacka9x/Picture024.jpg)
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb168/blacka9x/Picture026.jpg)
grpa9x you car is sweet.
I don't believe Grand Prix's came to Oz with black interiors.Your car may have been a special order or like a guys GP over here in Perth his tan seats wore out so he replaced with black seats and door cards which are far easier to source.
I would like to run black seats and door cards in one of my GP's so if anyone has a black interior in near perfect condition pm me.
John
john, hi,
i dont anything about my car being a special order (maybe), when i bought it i was told that it was one of two fitted with black trim, and the other car was in queensland. Again this could be fiction, as there are already 2 of us on this thread.
post some pics of your gp's john, i would like to see them.
cheers michael ;D
I don't suppose chassis numbers shed any light on the trim colour question?
Do Alfa chassis numbers contain body and trim colour code?
Alan
Nice car Michael. Paint job looks awesome.
Yes Alan I am also curious regarding the trim colour question. Looking at the build dates and trim colours from this thread, we have the following:
04/86 Black (earlier Grill?)
06/86 Black
06/86 Tan
07/86 Tan (2 Cars)
09/86 Tan (2 Cars)
According to David Wrights Alfa Down Under book the Grand Prix was imported from 04/86 to 12/86. The AlfaGTV6 website noted that (except for the RSA 3.0L special) the last production year was 1986 with some 686 being built. It would be nice to know how many of this number were Grand Prix's, and how many made it to Australia.
So I'll throw up the hypothesis based on the above that perhaps the earlier build cars had the black interior while later ones had tan and as it was the final year of production there may have been a bit of using up of existing parts stocks, rather than commissioning a new run of parts. More build dates and trim combos would prove/disprove this theory.
Cheers
Steve
Hi Alan,
My GP Build Date is Oct 1986
Australian Compliance is Jan 1987
Cheers,
Phil
Hi Phil
Thanks for that. Disproves my early build theory nicely so back to the drawing board. :)
Score is now
04/86 Black (earlier Grill?)
06/86 Black
06/86 Tan
07/86 Tan (2 Cars)
09/86 Tan (2 Cars)
10/86 Black
Cheers Steve
One of my GP's
Built Sept 86
Compliance 8/87
Tan trim of course....
I have/ can post a list to spot the fakes from the original GP's pm me if you want it.
John
hi all,
well the rumour of mine being one of two has been soundly dissmissed, we already have 3.
cheers michael
Quote from: grpa9x on November 30, 2010, 07:32:21 PM
hi all,
well the rumour of mine being one of two has been soundly dissmissed, we already have 3.
cheers michael
Oh well, one of three is still pretty good ;D
3 out of our sample group of 8 cars says that GP's came out of the factory with both tan and black interiors.
It seems very unlikely that 38% (have I got that right, awful mathematician) of our cars have had their door trim and seats replaced by items from OLDER cars.
If I am right that is an important geek learning from this thread – GP's came with black and tan interiors!
Alan
alan,
thats exactly the conclusion i came up with, hopefully a few more owners will jump onboard.
cheers michael
Guys - an interesting thread. On the black vs. tan though don't forget that a hell of a lot more GTV6's were sold with black interiors than tan. As a result tan interiors are almost impossible to find second hand and the material for the seats was out of stock many many years ago.
At the same time your cars, as a group, seem to include some of the best preserved examples of the series. So it's not hard to imagine a previous owner, being faced with a worn tan interior deciding to replace with a pristine black one. It's a pretty simple change over so long as you have all the individual parts.
Another issue to factor in there is the tendency for the black velour to fade.
I looked at a few GTV6's with black interiors before I bought mine and most suffered from fading.
The seats fade from black to a kind of copper brown colour.
The tan interior does not appear to fade the same way, so once again I come to the conclusion that the cars came out of the factory with black and tan interiors.
Surely someone out there recalls the cars when they were new!!
Alan
Quote from: aggie57 on December 01, 2010, 05:02:15 PM
Guys - an interesting thread. On the black vs. tan though don't forget that a hell of a lot more GTV6's were sold with black interiors than tan. As a result tan interiors are almost impossible to find second hand and the material for the seats was out of stock many many years ago.
At the same time your cars, as a group, seem to include some of the best preserved examples of the series. So it's not hard to imagine a previous owner, being faced with a worn tan interior deciding to replace with a pristine black one. It's a pretty simple change over so long as you have all the individual parts.
i think we are drawing a long bow here, based on this assumption, could we also consider that all gp's came out with black trim and the worn ones changed to tan. We nearly have a 50-50 split in trim colours here and only 8 cars, just because some didnt know or dont believe that there were black trimmed cars doesnt make it so.
On a side note i also know of a sydney based gp that has been retrimmed in tan leather, now was that car originally a black trim or a tan trim, i will try and find the details.
cheers michael :)
Could it be possible where the trims could have been swapped when new at the local alfa dealerships due to customer preferences?
Quote from: bteoh on December 03, 2010, 12:15:21 PM
Could it be possible where the trims could have been swapped when new at the local alfa dealerships due to customer preferences?
This scenario may have occured, but if as i suggest that they were produced in both trim types then there would be no need to swap them. I am curious to know why there are people who insist that these cars were not produced with two trim colours, where is it published that tan trim was the only colour you could get, this is just a myth, until some one can prove without doubt that this was the case it is crap. Except it, black trimmed gp's exist, and i have the proof in my garage as do others.
cheers michael :)
Yes keep telling your self that until you believe it LOL ;D
Could you check the colour of your ECU cover for me (the leather cover) not the kick panel.
I have a theory which I feel is fail safe in telling a fake from a real GTV6 GP ( Australian delivered)
Michael have you sent a email to CentroDocumentazione@alfaromeo.com (Marco Fazio) ?
John
Well to add a bit more to the mix. I did contact CentroDocumentazione@alfaromeo.com (Marco Fazio) a few years ago. Basically they confirmed Paint colour (AR530), Build and selling date and dealer location, but were silent about the trim colour for my car. So no enlightenment there.
WRT to theories they are only that and without any hard evidence from Alfa Romeo can't confirm or deny, what was sold in 86/87 as a Grand Prix.
From the information I have
- They were the only GTV6 sold in Australia with the unleaded engine
- Body kit with Rayton Fissore
opps hit the wrong button ;D so to continue...
- soft black rear spoiler.
Out of curiosity the attached image is an edited scan of the cover of the service book from my car. Top right number after 6GP is the last four digits from the Chassis code. Bottom right I interpret as Pirelli tyres. As to the bottom left code ROAL/AGV perhaps that is the paint/trim code. Can anyone decode this?
Cheers Steve
My List...
The very last of the GTV6's
Rayton Fissore body kit with fog lamps
Rosso ALFA AR 530 Smalto Acrilico
Wine glass rims
Sunroof
AC
ALFA ROMEO/Pioneer stereo with amp
White stitched leather bound steering wheel
White stitched leather gear knob
Aerial in the front windscreen
Grand Prix front grill red with large badge
ALFA ROMEO Script written in Block capital lettering on rocker covers
6C on plenum
Catalytic convertor Unleaded fuel only 117kw 1kw down on power
Twin plate clutch
TAN INTERIOR only in Australian models
Date of sale on this one 22/03/1989
113016 6GP-4563
Marshalls Alfa
John.
A scan of my service Coupon Booklet
Looks like the dealership hand wrote additional info onto the sticker noting that it is a red/brown Grand Prix.
The key number is self explanatory but I others I don't know.
The ROAL/AGV code matches yours Steve, so maybe it doesn't relate to trim.
Cheers
Alan
allan, my coupon booklet only differs from yours and steves on the top line;
mine reads 161019 6gp-4517,
cheers michael
Quote from: JOHN G on December 05, 2010, 08:31:36 PM
Yes keep telling your self that until you believe it LOL ;D
Could you check the colour of your ECU cover for me (the leather cover) not the kick panel.
I have a theory which I feel is fail safe in telling a fake from a real GTV6 GP ( Australian delivered)
Michael have you sent a email to CentroDocumentazione@alfaromeo.com (Marco Fazio) ?
John
john,
it would seem that you are adament that both my car and steves are fakes; any chance a
self proclaimed expert could prove his theories , i am certainly interested in hearing your wisdom, any documented proof would suffice,lol :cheers michael
john,
ok i just went to my shed and had a look at the leather cover over the ecu, and i now no what the colour is. Before i discuss this on a public forum i want to test a theory of my own, it involves people who crop up on these sites and bag other owners cars so that they will tell the trouble maker little secrets about the car to prove its originality, they do this to gain vital information so they themselves can build a replica. now i have seen this first hand on the a9x torana forum , so john how about both you and i send a pm to alan with our respective colours . this is as yours just a theory.
cheers michael
Quote from: alanm on December 06, 2010, 08:20:18 AM
A scan of my service Coupon Booklet
Looks like the dealership hand wrote additional info onto the sticker noting that it is a red/brown Grand Prix.
The key number is self explanatory but I others I don't know.
The ROAL/AGV code matches yours Steve, so maybe it doesn't relate to trim.
Cheers
Alan
Guys - ROAL/AGV is code for red (ROAL) / velvet beige ( AGV). Code for Red / Black is ROAL/LGV. That's from the factory brochure.
Interesting Aggie57. That would indicate that the interiors of the black cars were changed after they left the factory, either as a special order at time of sale, or at a later date. Any chance of getting a scan of the Brochure?
However diving into the numbers it looks like we share the same number on the top left of the sticker Michael "161019", vs "113016" for John and Alan. I suspect this number is the body code. Closest match for these (from David Wrights book) is 161.19 for the first series 75 and 113.16 for the last of the leaded GTV6's which is obviously not correct .
With respect to the top right number I am fairly comfortable interpreting it as a combination the model, GTV6 Grand Prix (6gp) and the last 4 numbers of the chassis number. Does any one disagree?
That so we all have a Grand Prix, and interestingly we have a very narrow range of chassis numbers, as follows
4512 myself (black)
4517 Michael (black)
4527 Alan (tan)
4563 John (tan)
So is there anything in the fact that my and Michaels cars share a number of common traits (early builds and body code?), besides the interior colour? Not enough data at present to draw any conclusions. Out of curiosity Michael is your grill the same as mine?
Finally John thanks for your list. I can put a tick to everything except interior and grill. Not sure that the engine cam covers are diagnostic, but they certainly relate to later builds.
Cheers
Steve
steve,
hi, very well put together post, in regards to the grill mine has the standard gp type (not like yours). I have no objection to the fact that the black trimmed cars maybe a special order, certainly i wont except that they are fakes because of this.
cheers michael
Michael What colour is your ECU leather cover?
I don't recall calling your or Steve's car a fake.
I am not like that mate and only on this forum to share info.
When it comes to GP's it's obvious I am the expert in the field LOL
John
Quote from: JOHN G on December 07, 2010, 05:45:08 PM
Michael What colour is your ECU leather cover?
I don't recall calling your or Steve's car a fake.
I am not like that mate and only on this forum to share info.
When it comes to GP's it's obvious I am the expert in the field LOL
John
john,
if you look at alans opening post , this is a gp register, for a bloke who claims "i'm not like that" you spend a fair amount of time telling others there car is'nt what it is, the ecu leather cover is just another example of you trying to discredit our cars. What colour is yours john??
cheers michael
Thanks Michael
I'll put that little theory on body codes etc to bed for lack of evidence again....
At the end of the day this is all a bit of a storm in a teacup. What we are debating about is essentially a factory body kit fitted to the last of the series to move them out of the showroom, which for Australia coincided with the introduction of unleaded fuel.
Unlike the GTHO/A9X/E49 world there is no significant financial upside in faking a grand prix, and a look on line will show that condition is a greater determinant of price than the year and model for a GTV6.
I suspect that no more than a 100 or so were sold in Australia, based on our chassis numbers and world wide production.
Also remember that our cars are almost 25 years old and have generally had a number of owners, so the end result is that parts will have changed from being non original, if only to keep them on the road and to suit personal taste.
So to try and draw a line in the sand as to real vs created after the event, I suggest the following,
1. The Grand Prix was the only GTV6 sold in Australia with an Unleaded Engine (evidence Alan's Quadrifoglio scan earlier and David Wrights Book Alfa Down Under part 2). So a genuine one will have a compliance plate which notes ADR37 Compliance, a small fuel filler neck and be built in 1986. This would be the hardest to fake, and I consider prima face evidence.
2. Documents. The "Australian version catalytic convertor equipped" Supplement and a coupon book with the top right number starting with 6GP followed by the last 4 digits of the chassis number.
2. The Rayton Fissore body kit (Same documentary evidence as point one). The fibre glass bits can be recreated, but I would be looking for the badges behind the front wheel arches (rarer than rocking horse poo now) and the soft black rear spoiler or if missing evidence of the mounting holes on the body.
As for the rest, certainly original stereos, wheels and the like will speak for the originality of the vehicle, but is not a determinant of authenticity, ditto part appearances.
Cheers
Steve
Michael you could not be more wrong.
I really could not give a rats ass if your GP is fake or real.
Don't try and start an argument when I am not looking for one.
And where did I spend a fair amount of time trying to tell other's their car isn't what it is?(as you put it)
Michael you really need too read the posts more carefully before posting in the future.
John
steve,
another well put together post, this is the quality that i want to read about on this forum, not the other rubbish.
cheers michael
Did anyone on this forum buy the GP that was for sale a few months back at a Parrmatta Rd Five Dock dealer?
It was red/tan, decent condition, had a very optomistic asking price of $25k or something radiculous at one stage but the price kept coming down... anyone hear know the car?
There was one in Sydney on car sales for a while at $11500 but that took a long while to shift... not sure how much it went for eventually??
Quote from: Rok_Dr on December 07, 2010, 10:45:41 AM
Interesting Aggie57. That would indicate that the interiors of the black cars were changed after they left the factory, either as a special order at time of sale, or at a later date. Any chance of getting a scan of the Brochure?
Here you go - it's actually a standard GTV/GTV6 brochure from late '84 but it shows the codes and the colours they applied to.
I also checked the service books from the 2 GTV6's I owned. The '84 one was red/beige and the booklet is marked ROAL/AGV and the '87 (delivered, '86 build) was red/black and the booklet is marked ROAL/LGV. Not sure that proves much re. your cars but another piece of information to help or confuse!
Alister
You may also be interested in this picture. It was part of an Alfa press kit and shows a beige trimmed GTV6, and as you can see everything from the doors forward is black. That was as they came from the factory. The only beige bits were the seats, the door and rear quarter cards, and the trims over the rear wheel arches.
Hi Alister
Many thanks for scanning that and putting it up. V useful information and nice to have some solid facts to clarify things. Certainly looks like that the interior of my car was changed after it left the factory, where and by whom I think will forever remain a mystery though.
On a separate note, while browsing the web this evening I came across this web page of a v nice GTV6 grand prix. I was surprised to see that it like my car also has the earlier grill (with a bigger badge) and as best as can be determined a black interior as well, which has got me intrigued.
I've attached one picture from the page below. Not much information is on the site, which appears to have gone stale around 2005, but it looks like the car has a Victorian registration, owners name at the time was Vince and it was subsequently monstered with a twin turbo installation.
http://www.italianautoclub.com/m-gtv6gp.htm (http://www.italianautoclub.com/m-gtv6gp.htm)
Does anyone in Vic know of the car and its history?
Cheers Steve
I owned a GTV6 GP with tan interior. It was a great car. I traded it in on an other car at Maryborough Toyota Victoria in about 2002.
I wonder If one of you guys may own it.?????? I believe a young boy bought it in Melbourne.
steve,
i also googled that car club, there are youtube videos of that car doing acceleration runs, i looked at other pics of it and i think it has black trim as well .
cheers michael :)
Okay, thanks to some great inputs we can conclude that the codes AGV and LGV refer to trim colour.
Having seen the post from Aggie57, I remembered that I have a Australian sales brochure for the GTV6.
The specifications are of course consistent with the picture posted by Aggie57.
So... in the interests of finally putting this issue to bed does anyone have an GP service book with with the trim code LGV?
Understanding of course that black interiors could still have been a special order.
In regards to the issue of originality, I agree with Rok_Dr. GTV6 values are largely dependent on condition and a GP, as far as I can see, is worth the same, or only marginally more than the 'standard' car. In short, IF the cars only came with tan interiors, that would not stop me lusting after a car with a black interior.
It would be nice if they appreciated a little in future, particularly in view of the small number made but we'll have to wait to see won't we. I think all GTV6's are undervalued at the moment, you get a lot joy for the same money as a 10 year old Camry...
Cheers
Alan
can anyone supply a pic of their gearknob, was it different to the standard one, i think mine is the standard type.
cheers michael
Thanks Alan
I concur totally with your comments. My ultimate suspicion (with no supporting evidence at present) is that given how easy it is to change seats and door cards, the dealers/Alfa Romeo Australia would have been only too happy to swap them over to get a sale for what in the late 80's was a slow selling vehicle.
The earlier grill on my car has me intrigued though given at least one other GP also has/had an earlier grill as well.
Can't help you with gear knobs Michael, mine got momo...ed, along with the steering wheel by the previous owner in the early 90's. My recollection is that is a black item, not wood grain, standard shape, but don't quote me :)
Cheers
Steve
steve,
the gear knob on mine is a black plastic one, on the list provided in an earlier post it read black with white stitching, i have the original wheel which has the white stitching.Also there was a guy who drove his gp up to canberra 2 yrs ago from victoria, it was red with tan trim, (not sure of his name, he may be on this forum), his car had a slightly different horn pad to mine, but the same gear knob.
cheers michael
Michael, re the gear knob, mine is the standard black one.
That's something that caught my eye in Johns list of GP items – 'white stitched gear knob'.
Makes sense given that the steering wheel is white stitched leather.
I havn't see a car with the stitched gear knob, but then again I have not been looking!!
I guess a leather gear knob is one of the items most susceptible to wear.
Cheers
Alan
alan,
yeah thats why i wanted to see a photograph of one, i have never seen one before and assumed that the one i have is the right one, i have only viewed a couple of other gp's and they all had the same as mine.Does the horn pad on your car have rings running around it or is it just plain with the badge.
cheers michael
Michael, my car has the horn pad with the rings running around it.
I would be fairly confident in saying that is the correct horn pad (once again same as the 'standard' GTV6)
I have seen a wheel and horn pad from a U.S. GTV6 that did not have the inner rings (ebay) more like a flat pad with the badge in the middle.
On the subject of steering wheels I would love to have the new one on ebay... but $1100, I don't think so.
Does anyone know how much Blackman's in Richmond would charge to recover to match the original exactly?
Cheers
Alan
Hi Alan
For what is is worth I got a quote to recover my Range Rover leather steering wheel a few years ago. It was in the order of $350 or so from memory. I didn't go ahead with it at the time but was recently lucky to get a NOS one from the Land Rover Australia parts clearance website for $135. Original list price was apparently in the order of $700. At $1,100 I'd refurbish your original in preference, which any trimmer that does classic cars should be able to do.
Cheers
Steve
Steve, people who aren't into cars would understand how sweet it was for you to buy that wheel for $135 ;D
Parts clearance centre... you've got to love that.
Alan
alan,
well thats good to know my wheel is correct, when i questioned the guy at canberra about his horn pad he said that the smooth one is the correct one.
cheers michael :)
Hi all,
some how stumbled upon this thread and it re-ignited my affection for these beautiful cars.
I also own one of these.(although sadly has sat unregistered in my garage for the last 6 or so years).
my service coupon book has
161019 top left (crossed out with pen and 11316 written instead)
6gp-4554 top right.
ROAL/AGV at bottom.
and it has a full tan interior.
compliance plate has 12/86 on it.
gtv6fletch,
hi, good to see another car has come out of the woodwork, your car certainly looks the goods from what i can see, post some more pics if you can, it may stimulate this thread,
cheers michael :)
Can one of you GTV6 grand prix owners out there reply to me the wheel stampings off the original factory wheels if you still have them please, i want to know what the genuine stampings are, they are stamped around the face of the wheel, can you list all of them please.
Thankyou VeeSix.
Hi
Wheels are stamped ALFA ROMEO SPEEDLINE 6J X 15H2C.45
This is the same wheel as the Alfa 90 I believe.
Cheers
Alan
Thankyou for your reply Alan
You have satisfied my curousity :)
managed to resize some more pic's.
Damn i really have to re-register one of my babies,
looking through old pic's and seeing them sit in garage with dust has woken me up from a 3kids,wife,mortgage,house reno slumber.
i just gotta drive one again,rrrr.
here is a few more pics guy's.
gtv6fletch,
your car looks very sharp, i am extremely jealous that you still have the rear spoiler, mine is rotting away in the shed. Yours is only the second gp i have seen with it still fitted.
cheers michael :)
Quote from: paul edwards on April 21, 2011, 09:30:30 PM
G'day gtv6fletch,
That,s a fine looking GTV you have, very very nice.
Time to wake the Beast from it's 6 year sleep and revive your passion for such a brilliant Car. Are the photos recent? if so then you have one of the best looking and kept GP GTV6 l have seen, the paint work looks beautiful. l hopefully will get to see it one day.
Cheers Paul
Let the Beast out and fire up the passion :) ;) 8)
Err ... are we still talking about cars?
Hi Gtv6fletch
I can only echo the previous comments, Mighty nice car you have there and I hope that you can get it back on the road soon! Those rego plates look like the original ones. It would be cool if you still had them and were able to get the car reregistered on them. My car (also an 86 model) had an OTA plate before it moved west with me 15 years ago.
It also looks from the photos that your car is fitted with an earlier grill (grill flutes extending to the headlights) and not the later GP type. Would you know if was replaced at some stage or if it was delivered from Alfa Romeo Australia like that?
I'm still trying to satisfy my curiosity as to whether Alfa were slack and fitted some cars with earlier grills or they were replaced at a later date. Up to 3 with the earlier grill now.
Cheers
Steve
Quote from: Rok_Dr on April 22, 2011, 01:09:15 PM
Hi Gtv6fletch
I can only echo the previous comments, Mighty nice car you have there and I hope that you can get it back on the road soon! Those rego plates look like the original ones. It would be cool if you still had them and were able to get the car reregistered on them. My car (also an 86 model) had an OTA plate before it moved west with me 15 years ago.
It also looks from the photos that your car is fitted with an earlier grill (grill flutes extending to the headlights) and not the later GP type. Would you know if was replaced at some stage or if it was delivered from Alfa Romeo Australia like that?
I'm still trying to satisfy my curiosity as to whether Alfa were slack and fitted some cars with earlier grills or they were replaced at a later date. Up to 3 with the earlier grill now.
Cheers
Steve
good eyes there steve, i never noticed,
michael
hey all,
thanks for all the comments bout my baby.
the rear spoiler is still on and in pretty good nick too,seems to have a metal bar inside the rubber which seems to be rusty and is a bit deformed on drivers side.
as for the paint work,it has been in the garage since the day i got it,
i havnt done much in the last 5 years,just start her up every 8 or so months and drive her out of the garage.got a week off work this week so i intend to have a massive clean up in the garage,need to make room so a can get the 3l motor in the red sister car and look at registering that one,
those plates in the pics i think were original,pretty sure i handed them in when i got GTV686 in green and white put on it.
The other car has GTV681.lol.
As for the grill,i am unsure,i remember asking when i purchased the car (no definate answer as the person i purchased car from was selling on behalf of owner,a doctor from the northern beaches,strange i know)
i always assumed that it was not original and must of had some kind of front end acco and smash repairers were just lazy and got a standard replacement ?
it is missing the passengers front wheel arch aswell ?
cheers
FLETCH........
Hi Fletch
Thanks for that information re the grill. A crash repair certainly could be another explanation.
Your rear spoiler sounds just like mine. I have a vision one day down the track of delicately cutting out the rusty bar, getting it recreated and then vinyl shrink wrapping spoiler before refitting. Not sure of the actual feasibility of this though. In the meantime it sits in the shed...
Cheers
Steve
hi all,
does any one have the right type of gear knob in their car, i would like to see a photo of the correct type for our cars.
cheers michael :)
have any of you got the red with tan interior GTV grand prix that was registered in Victoria with the plates GTV-V6 as I used to own this car for about 8 years & was casing it up, regards Rob.