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Title: Wheels from 33 4x4 (faulty)
Post by: Storm_X on September 28, 2010, 07:55:41 PM
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Hay all i dont know if any of you seen some wheels for sale a few weeks/months ago?

Well i bought them and i would just like to share with you a photo


I dont know if its just me or did i miss something in the description of the advertised wheels.
http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=5261.msg28957#msg28957

Just a heads up guys,try to watch out for some people ( if it where me i would be %100 honest)

Let me know what you guys think


Thanks Chris
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: AR116 on September 28, 2010, 08:40:51 PM
Chris,
            they are cracked. It doesn't say anything on the ad, bloody bastard.
I have a set of momo star wheels and one is cracked like yours, the  problem being that not many
people will weld them because they say it is not RWC. You may have to shop around to find someone that can weld.

regards;

marco (aka Mr116)
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on September 28, 2010, 09:32:43 PM
That's bloody bad luck Storm_X, they're nice wheels too.  Was the crack under a sticker or is that just where you've cleaned it?

Have you been in contact with the vendor to explain the problem?  I would try that as a first option, he might be good about it.  Thanks for the heads up anyway, I see he still has some things for sale on here, surely a case of buyer beware from now on.
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: Typhoon90 on September 28, 2010, 09:40:58 PM
There are specialist firms that will repair that, it needs a proper process, but it's not all that involved. If you have no luck, it's worth the money to keep a set of good rims.
If done correctly, a welded aluminium rim will be as strong as before and invisible.

Regards, Andrew.
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: Simon Aarons on September 28, 2010, 10:18:45 PM
Quote from: Sheldon McIntosh on September 28, 2010, 09:32:43 PM
Thanks for the heads up anyway, I see he still has some things for sale on here, surely a case of buyer beware from now on.

There could of been the possibility that the seller was un-aware of the crack, though if i am selling something i would check it over from top to bottom! This person should of done the same.

Also i would be aware of that user name - '33 4x4'... anything from one of those cars is bound to be broken! ;)
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: Storm_X on September 29, 2010, 06:02:11 AM
Quote from: Sheldon McIntosh on September 28, 2010, 09:32:43 PM
That's bloody bad luck Storm_X, they're nice wheels too.  Was the crack under a sticker or is that just where you've cleaned it?

Have you been in contact with the vendor to explain the problem?  I would try that as a first option, he might be good about it.  Thanks for the heads up anyway, I see he still has some things for sale on here, surely a case of buyer beware from now on.

I dont know if any of you seen but a guy bought alfa 33 side skirts from him and they where also fked and he posted picture and pretty much told everyone to steer clear from him etc etc, the post is gone now 33 4x4 prob deleted it. If the guy that bought the stuffed side skits is out there let me know.

Oh i have been in contact with the vender and his father witch who owns the paypal account and im trying to be the most cililized and mature i can and all i get back is abbuse mainly over i payed for the wheels to be wraped for postage but they came bare and i want my wraping money back, witch they claim they refunded but my paypal has no recall.

I wasnt even going to complain or anything like that but just every reply i get back from them just gets me more pissed off.
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: BradGTV on September 29, 2010, 08:07:02 AM
that is bad luck, i know how you feel,
i bought a set of 5 gtv6 alloys and a set of 4 "simmons" from ebay.
when they arrived the alloys were fine but the "simmons" were compomotive race wheels with simmons caps.
luckly the bloke was a good guy and refunded half the money!
i guess thats always the issue with buying sight unseen. but i should have been more aware!
cheers, brad
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: Martinsifredi on September 29, 2010, 10:20:48 AM
Hi guys,

it is shame when people can't be honest !  But any way no use in getting mad over it .  either get in touch with the guy who you purchased the wheels off and sort it out or you can give the guys a ring at Advanced Alloys, they are one of the best in Melbourne . I have dealt with the guys there , they do great work.

here is the link

http://www.advancedalloys.com.au/home/

hope this helps you,

Martin
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: Storm_X on September 29, 2010, 06:59:53 PM
To be honest i was a little upset i wasnt told but i can fix with the ally welder, i spray 2pac paint all day as a job so i was going to restore the wheels. But yes just watch out when buying stuff they might not tell you everything.

Im just getting angry as i sent $20 for the wheels to get wraped but paypal glitched and sent two lots of $20, o i asked for the 2nd $20 back.
then i got the wheels and they where not wraped so i want my 1st $20 back and then he said he tried to send me back the 2nd $20 when i asked weeks before, but he just sent me a picture of the  two payments and the 1st payment went through all good as they where to wrap the wheels and the 2nd it says payment freezed but noe ready to be spent, then he tried to refund the 2nd $20 but the status is cancelled so i never received it.

sorry if i dont make sence of if i have repeated myself.
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: david sammartino on September 29, 2010, 10:01:07 PM
Ive seen that username on other forums also, and apart from his prices being in my opinion a little optimistic, i think that it somewhat ruins it for the rest of us when we try to sell things. It just makes it harder. My view on the whole thing....as if he didnt see the crack, come on! I want to be first in the line to ask the forum to ban the guy. The fact that he is nowhere to be seen, and looks to me only here to sell things, tells me he is not worth having around, especially if he wants to rip people off. Am i correct?

What else are we waiting for, someone to buy one of his engines, get the thing fitted up, and him saying," oh sorry i didnt see that gaping hole in the side of the block, it wasnt there before shipping, it mustve fell".
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: david sammartino on September 29, 2010, 10:02:49 PM
oh ye, and forget about welding it, not even an option, start smoking heavily , turn the wheel upside down, and consider your new wheel a gigantic ashtray.
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: stustustu123 on September 30, 2010, 03:53:21 PM
I notice this seller's for-sale posts are locked too (I assume by the seller), so anyone who has bought something can't complain on the forum.  The posts then get unlocked & begging messages added (like "c'mon guys"), and then re-locked.  Doesn't seem very fair.  I was interested in some 164 bits but after reading about the side skirts I've steered clear.
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: Storm_X on October 01, 2010, 06:38:22 PM
Just an up-date, i got the tyres striped off the rims today and its not looking good.

The wheel with the crack looks pretty bad and one other wheel has hit a gutter or a pot hole and has a flat spot witch is fked

I have to get one wheel welded and the other rolled witch might cost a bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLlauQj3iro 

from what i can see the wheel has been heated and bent back into shape, witch for me is a plus as i can get it welded.

Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on October 02, 2010, 12:07:11 AM
If this vendor is not going to take any responsibility, or even acknowledge the problem, then maybe he should be banned from this forum (and we can put out the word on the BB as well). 

Can you put up some pics Storm_X?  Let's see the extent of the damage, and then we can take it further.
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: Frank Musco on October 02, 2010, 12:12:28 AM
Thanks heaps for the heads up Storm_X.

I've been around long enough now to know that the person selling this rim knew it was broken. Seriously! OR his lights are on but nobody's home, you know, where am I, what's my name, why am I here, my head hurts, Oh yeah... is that a crack? Anyone would have an impossible task trying to convince me that when this person was taking the photos of these rims, while moving them around, and washing them,(notice the hose and wet rims to make them look shiny), he did not notice the extremely large area which has been obviously heated to the extreme of burning the paint off. Potentially dangerous. Should be banned unless he took them back and apologised on the forum, technically it's not four rims because one is broken and not "roadworthy"

Obviously NOT an Alfa person.

Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels ---DO NOT BUY FROM 33 4x4
Post by: Storm_X on October 02, 2010, 09:37:56 AM
Quote from: Frank Musco on October 02, 2010, 12:12:28 AM
Thanks heaps for the heads up Storm_X.

I've been around long enough now to know that the person selling this rim knew it was broken. Seriously! OR his lights are on but nobody's home, you know, where am I, what's my name, why am I here, my head hurts, Oh yeah... is that a crack? Anyone would have an impossible task trying to convince me that when this person was taking the photos of these rims, while moving them around, and washing them,(notice the hose and wet rims to make them look shiny), he did not notice the extremely large area which has been obviously heated to the extreme of burning the paint off. Potentially dangerous. Should be banned unless he took them back and apologised on the forum, technically it's not four rims because one is broken and not "roadworthy"

Obviously NOT an Alfa person.



This might explain it,

When the wheels got droped off to my work and while all the guys where looking at the dammage they noticed that the guy i bought the wheels of came from NIMBIN, then witch they explained where and what NIMBIN was famours for and also asked why i would buy something fom this place. I never knew.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimbin,_New_South_Wales Must read
http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Nimbin,_New_South_Wales,_Australia
http://www.google.com.au/images?hl=en&q=nimbin&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=4m6mTNKaD9CecdLinKgH&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=5&ved=0CDsQsAQwBA



Please try to take the time to read.
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: 33 4x4 on October 19, 2010, 06:40:59 PM
Yeah I sold little troubled chris a set of $2000 rims with tyres for $300, jeez im sorry. He has issues and you do not know me.
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: Storm_X on October 19, 2010, 06:56:07 PM
ha when i got these wheels all they where worth was scrap metal.

http://www.7daytyres.com.au/products_closeup.asp?part=&part_no=1261


.

i was going to keep quite about it but all i get is abused. i never wanted it to come to this.
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: 33 4x4 on October 19, 2010, 07:58:21 PM
I was told they had been dinged and repaired. $300 for $2000 worth of wheels, you guys decide whether Chris has a crack habit or whether it was a bargain and he would never be happy.
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: Storm_X on October 19, 2010, 08:11:25 PM
yes they where dinged but they only heated it up back to shape but not welded.
i bought these wheels insted of my weekly crack ...

Title: Re: DELETE
Post by: dehne on October 19, 2010, 09:21:33 PM
are you kidding 33 4x4, if they are $2000 wheels why would you sell them for $300 unless you knew they were fuked or you have a bad CRACK habbit seriously you should offer the money back and the rims returned or another form of compensation, stop being a dick and advertise ur items correctly and with a honest description, I have a set of rims that are worth $3200 new but realistic sale price is maybe $400 max so dont bring the whole they are worth that much so you got a great deal shit to our forum no one here (except maybe you) is stupid we all know what a real reasonable price is.
so your options are be honest or fuck off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: DELETE
Post by: 33 4x4 on October 19, 2010, 10:14:27 PM
jesus frank your lights are well and truly out! the crack is a repaired section and yes I noticed it.
Title: Re: DELETE
Post by: 33 4x4 on October 19, 2010, 10:18:44 PM
thats why $2000 worth of wheels without the tyres went for $300!

Think what you like, couldnt care less!

I have plenty of customers that just keep coming back, you guys are missing out.

Your loss, to the rest of you dont listen to this bunch of demented and confused people, the choice is all yours.
Title: Re: DELETE
Post by: Frank Musco on October 19, 2010, 11:28:45 PM
Well... 33 4x4... I should of explained that I have broken 'good' rims on the track, nasty, so I dont want the same to happen to my Alfa mates... Oh that's right, you couldn't care less.

I must admit, I hate missing out.
Title: Re: DELETE
Post by: Andrew Bose on October 20, 2010, 03:01:36 AM

I was behind Frank when he broke that wheel and I second his view, I don't want my mates to have accidents or get substandard and/or misleadingly described products either.

I also understand after 10 years of retail, in emotive products like Alfas,  that a customer gets over a high price way before he gets over bad service and poor attitude. So do you want to alienate the largest car club in the southern hemisphere? or do you want to be professional.

33 4X4 it is all up to you because if you "couldn't care less" we will take that attitude to you and your business, whilst it lasts anyway.
Title: Re: DELETE
Post by: Anthony Miller on October 20, 2010, 10:15:20 AM
Quote from: 33 4x4 on October 19, 2010, 10:18:44 PM
thats why $2000 worth of wheels without the tyres went for $300!

Think what you like, couldnt care less!

I have plenty of customers that just keep coming back, you guys are missing out.

Your loss, to the rest of you dont listen to this bunch of demented and confused people, the choice is all yours.

No wonder you've been banned from Ausalfa forum
Title: Re: My 17x7" 4x98 wheels
Post by: wankski on October 20, 2010, 11:29:29 AM
Quote from: 33 4x4 on October 19, 2010, 07:58:21 PM
I was told they had been dinged and repaired. $300 for $2000 worth of wheels, you guys decide whether Chris has a crack habit or whether it was a bargain and he would never be happy.
Hi 33 4x4.

I'm often involved in investigations and believe me, I haven't formed a view. I also didn't see the advertisement.

In a lot of consumer complaints, the consumer is often going off half-cocked and a lot of complaints get knocked back, there also are legitimate complaints of course - so i'm not one quick to judge.

The relative price paid also does play a factor in weighing the evidence. The less price paid usually means the less of an implied warranty in the sale.

So please tell me, did you disclose they were cracked and repaired to the purchaser? Did you make them aware of the damage?

I'm sure we'd like to know - the above goes to the heart of the dispute.
Title: Re: DELETE
Post by: gbernard on October 21, 2010, 04:43:05 AM
Quote from: Anthony Miller on October 20, 2010, 10:15:20 AM
Quote from: 33 4x4 on October 19, 2010, 10:18:44 PM
thats why $2000 worth of wheels without the tyres went for $300!

Think what you like, couldnt care less!

I have plenty of customers that just keep coming back, you guys are missing out.

Your loss, to the rest of you dont listen to this bunch of demented and confused people, the choice is all yours.

No wonder you've been banned from Ausalfa forum


too true   :-)
Title: Re: Issue is Pending to be sorted out
Post by: wankski on October 21, 2010, 12:59:03 PM
We probably should not form judgments until the facts are clear and the OP reports back of the ultimate outcome.

The changed thread title alludes to something being worked out between the two parties; they ought have the chance to do this free of interference.

Accusations and aspersions against the vendor is only ammunition for him to scuttle the negotiation. The experiences of others is one thing, but it ought not infringe on the OP's chances to work out HIS problem.

I would invite the OP to report back the outcome if he wishes.
Title: Re: Issue is Pending to be sorted out
Post by: Storm_X on October 21, 2010, 08:19:45 PM
just to let you guys know i got told i ill get a refund if i took the thread down.

So i did and he says his still not happy, so  think i am just going to have to put my story back up and on every other alfa fourm he advertises on.

I thought we had a deal but he isnt going by his word.


If he doesnt contact me soon he will get banned from the fourms and i am going to warn as many people about how bad he is (with selling faulty parts) as i can. So its pretty much i get back my money that i sent for wraping then i will rest on the matter or i will inform as many people as i can about him and he will loose a fair few dollars in selling his parts, and hay i might even save people from getting these faulty bad parts.
Title: Re: Issue is Pending to be sorted out
Post by: shiny_car on October 21, 2010, 08:51:16 PM
I hope you work something out.

I might just add, that of the 3 people I 'know' who recently bought components from him, NONE received them in the condition they were expecting. NONE have been satisfied, and I'm sure NONE would have bothered in the first place if they knew what they were buying.

:)
Title: Re: Issue is Pending to be sorted out
Post by: wankski on October 22, 2010, 09:42:07 AM
Banning from the forums is one thing, but the only thing that will really help is a name and shame.

He can be as pissed as he wants. The defence to defamation: truth and fair comment.

Let it boil over, and if your suitably pissed by the end of it, let rip.

Warning others is a totally legitmate purpose. Don't worry we'll stand by you as long as the objective facts are revealed. You wont be alone in taking on this guy. One thing about the Alfa community - we're pretty good about supporting each other while expecting little or nothing in return.
Title: Re: Issue is Pending to be sorted out
Post by: Typhoon90 on October 22, 2010, 08:57:11 PM
If you find you need someone close by to help this 33 4x4 person realise the correct way to deal with people, I have a couple of relatives who live quite close to Nimbin.
They're trained in the field of locating and gathering of information on people.

Regards, Andrew.
Title: Re: Issue is Pending to be sorted out
Post by: Storm_X on October 23, 2010, 06:11:13 AM
Quote from: Typhoon90 on October 22, 2010, 08:57:11 PM
If you find you need someone close by to help this 33 4x4 person realise the correct way to deal with people, I have a couple of relatives who live quite close to Nimbin.
They're trained in the field of locating and gathering of information on people.

Regards, Andrew.

Thanks for the info andrew,
but adam may have friends up your way so watch out. Well thats what im going on as ive heard about his friends in adelaide.
Title: Re: Issue is Pending to be sorted out
Post by: Anthony Miller on October 23, 2010, 07:09:41 AM
Quote from: Typhoon90 on October 22, 2010, 08:57:11 PM
If you find you need someone close by to help this 33 4x4 person realise the correct way to deal with people, I have a couple of relatives who live quite close to Nimbin.
They're trained in the field of locating and gathering of information on people.

Regards, Andrew.

Hey Andrew, unfortunately some people can't be told, especially if they suffer from R.C.I.S.(Rectal Cranial Inversion Syndrome) where their heads are wedged firmly between the cheeks of their arse. It certainly makes it difficult to hear what all the crackheads and demented fools are telling you :P
Title: Re: Issue is Pending to be sorted out
Post by: Typhoon90 on October 23, 2010, 07:30:20 AM
I can't see a winner like Adam having friends anywhere, but that's just me!

Regards, Andrew.
Title: Re: Wheels from 33 4x4 (faulty)
Post by: Storm_X on October 25, 2010, 07:41:57 PM
ok well he said if i deleted the topic thet he would refund my money so i played fair but after i week now no reply.
I came to my word but he didnt so oh well.

he can keep the money but if i ever seem him trying to sell anyparts on the alfa fourms i will warn everyone then he will losse out that way.

I was going to forget this all but im sick of getting played around.

Title: Re: Wheels from 33 4x4 (faulty)
Post by: BradGTV on October 25, 2010, 07:48:26 PM
it really is sad to hear chris.
i dont think he will be able to sell any parts on the forum know ;)
do you plan to get the wheels fixed? i would like to know who can do that in adelaide if you know of any?
Title: Re: Wheels from 33 4x4 (faulty)
Post by: Storm_X on October 25, 2010, 08:00:45 PM
i have allready painted one  17" wheel at work matt black but it was the 1st one so it was a trial and error. i have put it aside because i sprayed my simmons on saturday.

(http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/uploads/monthly_10_2010/post-68599-12879948578147_thumb.jpg)
(http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/uploads/monthly_10_2010/post-68599-12879948904351_thumb.jpg)

I have not yet to look for a place to fix the wheels as i am busy getting my daily on the road.
(http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/uploads/monthly_10_2010/post-68599-12879949255069_thumb.jpg)
(http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/uploads/monthly_10_2010/post-68599-1287994956762_thumb.jpg)

Ill get a pic of the one i sprayed the other week in the matt black.