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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: alfagtv58 on July 26, 2010, 03:51:59 PM

Title: CH Plates
Post by: alfagtv58 on July 26, 2010, 03:51:59 PM
I am about to get a car onto the Victorian club permit scheme, I thought I might look on the Vicroads website to see if the 'public consultation' on the proposed new scheme (90 day log books) has progressed any further.  The page they used to have there explaining it all has disappeared completely.

Call me a cynic, but it seems to coincide with the Gillard announcement of a 'cash for clunkers' scheme.

Title: Re: CH Plates
Post by: stradale on July 26, 2010, 04:23:24 PM
Lets hope the dealers can sort the clunkers from the classics that might get offered up by anyone that might be cleaning out pops old cars after he passes...
Title: Re: CH Plates
Post by: Paul Gulliver on July 26, 2010, 04:28:46 PM

QuoteCall me a cynic, but it seems to coincide with the Gillard announcement of a 'cash for clunkers' scheme

I think this would result in the "Storming of the Bastille" from the car club classes.

Hopefully it has only disappeared because they are finally going to pass it into legislation
Title: Re: CH Plates
Post by: Victor Lee on July 26, 2010, 05:02:19 PM
Hi Phil,

Is there any "how to" info anywhere for putting a car onto CH plates?  We want to put the GTV6 onto CH plates as the normal rego is due shortly.

Cheers

Victor
Title: Re: CH Plates
Post by: Neil Choi on July 26, 2010, 05:27:02 PM
Hey Victor

It is pretty easy as I just about to do CH plates on two cars.

Download the CH permit application form from Vicroads website, you will find it.

Get a RWC.

Present paperwork and $100 odd dollars and plates are yours to put on car.

Neil
Title: Re: CH Plates
Post by: Barry Edmunds on July 26, 2010, 05:54:36 PM
CH PLate scheme update
The AOMC has advised that the changes to the existing CH PLate scheme have progressed on from the Minister to the legal people.

This is the final hurdle and best guesstimate now is the changes will come into effect sometime early in 2011 (hopefully).

As the changes have been signed off by the current Minister any possibility of a change of state government later this year will not have any effect on the changes or their implementation. I understand that the current State opposition have already given their approval to the changes anyway.
Barry
Title: Re: CH Plates
Post by: alfagtv152 on July 26, 2010, 07:32:12 PM
Hi Guys,
Your club Rego scheme is not based on Historic Originality is it?.Is your club subject to the normal road worthy as ordinary cars?.Is it legal to get a car with a full roll cage registered in Vic?.
Title: Re: CH Plates
Post by: Victor Lee on July 26, 2010, 10:42:55 PM
Hi Andrew,

Yep!  See: 
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/35E021C8-0116-48E5-8EF6-BEDFCDF08265/0/VSI28.pdf

Cheers
Title: Re: CH Plates
Post by: john m on July 26, 2010, 11:00:47 PM
Victor,

I concour with Neil. If you own a current registered car that is over 25 years old, you still need to get a RWC to register it on CH plates. I 've done it on 2 vehicles.
Title: Re: CH Plates
Post by: Sportscar Nut on July 27, 2010, 07:46:44 PM
My understanding is that the proposed 'cash for clunkers' scheme requires the cars to be destroyed. Ie Simsmetal will be extremely busy. Was apparently disastrous for some cheaper older classics in Europe & the US when the schemes were in operation over the last couple of years.

Re the roll cage, just note that Vicroads/ RTA etc all have differing requirements for roll cages to CAMS approved cages. In short the key areas in the Vicroads regs are if the cage intrudes across any entry points to the vehicle, this will fail. Also the rules specify the maximum 'vision intrusion' down the A-pillar so a fat wide A-pillar cage will almost certainly not be roadworthy.

Thanks for the update guys as I am also aiming to get the 105 onto CH reg when current reg expires.

Paul
Title: Re: CH Plates
Post by: massiveluvbuddy67 on August 02, 2010, 07:15:01 PM
There is an article in the latest "Just Cars" magazine on the club plates scenarios for each state. Interestingly, they quote two brand new imported LHD Chevs have been registered in Vic on club plates? How can that be? It must be an error.
Title: Re: CH Plates
Post by: Victor Lee on August 03, 2010, 08:05:12 AM
See: http://www.justauto.com.au/justcars/know/news/e8c10b0e-4529-4d30-aeb5-b6e916d4a122

This paragraph caught my attention from this article:  "Club membership and approval is a critical element of the Victorian scheme. The general rule is the car should be 30 years of age to qualify but there are multiple exceptions. A couple of brand new Camaros are already on Victorian club plates, which means they do not need to be converted from left-hand drive. If a club says you're in, you're in."

Interesting ..... ??? ???
Title: Re: CH Plates
Post by: alfagtv58 on August 03, 2010, 08:45:17 AM
Quote from: Victor Lee on August 03, 2010, 08:05:12 AM
Interesting ..... ??? ???

Interesting it may be, but it is just plain wrong and illegal!  For a start it is 25 years not 30, so the authors credibility in his research is shot from the start!

This is from Vic Roads website....it seems pretty clear to me, the only way you should be able to get a modern car on this scheme is if it is a replica (GT40 etc I would imagine).  I would not want to be the club signing off on those Chevs if it all goes pear shaped.

QuoteA club permit can be issued to the following vehicles in the following categories:

Veteran vehicles - manufactured before 1 January 1919
Vintage vehicles - manufactured after 31 December 1918 and before 1 January 1931
Classic & Historic vehicles manufactured after 31 December 1930, but more than 25 years before the date of the application for a club permit.
These categories can include trailers and modified vehicles such as street rods. Vehicles which are replicas of vehicles in the above categories may also be issued with a club permit.

see here: http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Registration/PermitsModificationsAndDefects/OtherPermits/ClubPermits.htm (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Registration/PermitsModificationsAndDefects/OtherPermits/ClubPermits.htm)



Title: Re: CH Plates
Post by: scuzzyGTV on August 03, 2010, 11:49:12 AM
Quote...so the authors credibility in his research is shot from the start!

even before that, I believe Tassie has 52 days/year on SI plates (feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, but dad is under that impression on his 1750), thus making us the most liberal?
Title: Re: CH Plates
Post by: Victor Lee on August 03, 2010, 02:43:45 PM
Yeah, I thought it looked a bit suss.

Damm!  There goes my 8C idea for road use!
Title: Re: CH Plates
Post by: branko.gt on August 03, 2010, 11:21:49 PM
Quote from: Victor Lee on August 03, 2010, 02:43:45 PM
Yeah, I thought it looked a bit suss.

Damm!  There goes my 8C idea for road use!
what do you mean, everyone knows that it is a replica of 8c 33/2  ;) no worries with getting the permit !

and that is less of the streach then some hot rods and replica's out there  ::)
Title: Re: CH Plates
Post by: pasey25 on August 15, 2010, 03:55:19 PM
Quote from: edmunds on July 26, 2010, 05:54:36 PM
CH PLate scheme update
The AOMC has advised that the changes to the existing CH PLate scheme have progressed on from the Minister to the legal people.

This is the final hurdle and best guesstimate now is the changes will come into effect sometime early in 2011 (hopefully).

As the changes have been signed off by the current Minister any possibility of a change of state government later this year will not have any effect on the changes or their implementation. I understand that the current State opposition have already given their approval to the changes anyway.
Barry

I'd been trawling the Vicroads site for updates so I'm very glad to read this. If you hear any more - please keep us updated, particularly those of us with CH plates registered with the club.