It's been pleasing to see the recent sales activity of two beautifully presented Alfetta GT's.
The first was the metallic olive green car sold by the Throttle Shop in Sydney for mid $20's I heard, the second being the red one advertised on this forum last week.a bargain at low teens.
It's great to see recognition of the purist Alfetta coupe made imho and feel there's a growing appreciation for the ones that have survived unmolested,tin worm and group S heroics.
I think you are on the money finally the alfetta series is being understood
and appreciated .I constantly laugh when manufacturers quote 48/52% balance and
the amazing transaxle ,twin cam etc
the alfa had the perfect balance well before the world was interested
and i do believe all gt/gtv's will rise in price significantly in the next couple of years.
+1
Quote from: Italian Supermodel on April 23, 2015, 12:05:42 AM
the ones that have survived unmolested,tin worm and group S heroics.
Group S heroics.....I'm so very sorry the significant amount of money I have tipped into my Alfetta, saving it from the crusher, and promoting the marque at racetracks around the country doesn't conform to your definition of survival.
I'm beginning to remember why I stopped coming to this forum.
I think group S has saved a lot of alfetta's that would have ended up on the scrap heap otherwise and with them racing has raised their profile and made them even more desirable.
Look at all the 105's that where in group S and look what they fetch now.
It's probably less likely to damage one on the track than on a public road with people who don't see cars as anything other than an appliance all around you.
I'm to scared to park my alfetta anywhere but in my garage, which is a bit sad really.
Quote from: Fetta GTV on June 04, 2015, 07:43:54 PM
It's probably less likely to damage one on the track.........
Mmmm, I would disagree with you on this one. Want to see my scars (read: panel beater bills)!!!!!!!!!
All those HUNDREDS of Alfetta GTs that have been butchered for Group S. Oh the humanity!
It will be suds next that shouldn't be used for group S because they are so sought after😀
I've already had 'feedback' from some quarters that I should not encourage people to put Suds and 33s on the race track because of the increasing rarity of these special cars. Hmm. You still can't give away a 33, and there are still loads of run-of-the-mill Suds parked up in sheds and worthless. Race cars are LOVED and cared for, and very well preserved. Neil aside, damage is quite rare. Less likely that a race car will get crushed than a street car will in my opinion.
HEREHERE Alfagtv58,Fettagtv and Evan well put and thanks--i have been stewing on this for a while to the point that i bought a 77 gtv last weekend(very rusty and dented)to get all the bits to convert my GT back to a road car but have found out QLD Transport wont allow full cages as of end of June last year in road going vehicles????so now i have everything to convert my GT to yes GROUP S-thanks to the realists
Quote from: Evan Bottcher on June 05, 2015, 08:03:12 AM
Neil aside, damage is quite rare.
hmmm is there a hidden message in 'them quotes'?
and Sud owners relax, Sud are not eligible for Group S.
Afetta coupes were always going to go up in value, just a question of when. Look at what has happened to the value of 240/260z Datsuns, and early RX-7s. And how many good alfetta coupes are really left? Not many.
I think group S has saved many of these cars as they get used and maintained. And I think it would be very easy to convert a group S car back to road use, it's not like sports sedan where little of the original car is left.
It's fun to look up http://www.howmanyleft.co.uk to see what's trending out of existence. Right hand drive 116's are getting harder and harder to get - and get parts for. If I had room, I'd fill a shed full of any 116 I could get my hands on right now.
(confession: I haz one, but I need moar).
That's a great tool . Thanks .
Better tell Neil Choi the trend line for Toyota Camry's is also alarming in the UK.
That's because they're all here! BLOODY CAMRY's. I've been waiting ages for a chance to say that again!
But back on thread, while I agree Alfetta GT's wil appreciate, particularly RHD and Euro spec LHD ones, they're still relatively easy to find in the U.S., in LHD Spica form of course, and I suspect they will always lag 105 coupes simply because the 105's are seen in the wider community as more iconic Alfa's.
Quote from: aggie57 on June 23, 2015, 12:59:53 AM
105's are seen in the wider community as more iconic Alfa's.
I don't think that is universal, and i think it'll change over time. If I say I own a GTV to an enthusiast under 40, they usually think I mean an Alfetta GTV. The Alfetta was common on the roads and within aspirational reach when they were younger. I always wanted one, and would quite like to acquire one now (need more storage first!). I didn't discover the 105s until I'd already had a couple of Alfas.
The GTV6 was the first car I ever dreamed about owning when I was about 12 in the early 80s, after our family doctor bought a brand new one.
So for me, that shape has pretty much always defined Alfa Romeo.
If Alfa Romeo can get these new vehicles [4C is ticking boxes, Giulia?] right, we may well see an elevated regard for the marque & a new found desire for the 'classics'?!?!?!?
Just like Maserati.
Quote from: Evan Bottcher on June 23, 2015, 09:11:55 AM
Quote from: aggie57 on June 23, 2015, 12:59:53 AM
105's are seen in the wider community as more iconic Alfa's.
I don't think that is universal, and i think it'll change over time. If I say I own a GTV to an enthusiast under 40, they usually think I mean an Alfetta GTV. The Alfetta was common on the roads and within aspirational reach when they were younger. I always wanted one, and would quite like to acquire one now (need more storage first!). I didn't discover the 105s until I'd already had a couple of Alfas.
Possibly so but in a way we both make the point of my post: We both admire 116 GT/GTV's but we both own (non-functioning) 105 GTV's.
Watching this one with interest. I have not seen it and do not know its condition, looks ok from the pics.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/like/Alfa-Romeo-Alfetta-GT-1800/231862020349?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&_trksid=p2050601.c100103.m2451&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140211150826%26meid%3D38e3277b3c1949a0a924864607494cd5%26pid%3D100103%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D201532067790%26clkid%3D3706614700679053778&_qi=RTM2010742
Just my two cents worth but when I was looking for something to restore and look after I couldn't believe I could get a car like my 82 gtv for the price I got it for.
There were cars from the seventies and early eighties that were just junk and not a patch on (Sophia) for style ,performance etc etc .
This is a car that right now if someone offered me double what I paid I'd think twice before selling her.
Yep they are best bargain sports car possibly in the world at the moment
Bang for buck its thru the roof
i think that particular car on ebay might even hit 6500-8500 its the right model being the rare 1.8 GT
and the one to restore in a around 5 years I personally believe nothing under 25K for a good one
'the new generation likes the wedge
FYI The alfetta GT is no longer desirable as a group S racer. Recent rule changes mean the GT must use the original 1.8 donk, no upgrading to the 2.0L
Since 95 when I got my first gtv6 I have had around 10 alfetta's through my hands. Me like some of you, had some experience when young that ingrained that shape into my mind that never wavered, still not to this day. I have always kept a close eye on prices, mainly on the gtv6 and could never understand how such an awesome car was never increasing in value. From when I paid 12.5k in 95 there was no increase in prices till 2012/13. You can say they decreased because of inflation, but now you can see them edging north. The 2.0L was not my focus till 2007 when i was getting involved with guys in group S. I will go out on a limb here and suggest that group S racing is partly responsible for the increase in value of early alfettas. I remember they were dirt cheap a bit before i started looking and when I bought around 2012 at 3k, that was the last time i saw a decent steel bumper alfetta for the money.At this time there was around 10 competing in group S. My reasoning for this claim is, why would an alfetta owner purchase an older version over the later model if not for the racing aspect. It is basically the same car with the later model having a superior body with regards to corrosion protection and marginally better quality interior, granted you can argue the chrome.
The relative cheap pricing has allowed us to indulge whereas the increasing prices will hopefully reach a level where they will be a viable restorable model
Quote from: sportiva on April 10, 2016, 12:57:57 PM
Rising values are a free kick when you want to sell and a penalty when you want to buy. Montreal's are fetching upwards of $150k overseas for top quality cars. There out of my reach so i'll never own one. this one is priceless he wont sell it
That one annoys me. I tried to pry it out of his hands too but no luck. If someone ever does, send them my way as I need parts off it for my project!
Quote from: Evan Bottcher on June 04, 2015, 09:25:25 PM
All those HUNDREDS of Alfetta GTs that have been butchered for Group S. Oh the humanity!
Evan, your not being facetious by chance? :o
;D
Baz