Is there any update for the factory Nav/maps available? The system works fine, but the maps in Victoria are so so so outdated. When I spoke to the dealership a couple of months ago they've said that I have the latest maps, but I found it really hard to believe.
When I went to the Mopar website and entered my VIN, it offered an update for the Europe map was uploaded in Dec 2019, so it's quite new, but what can I do with it? Lol I don't want to drive around Germany, I want to use my QV in Melbourne and Victoria.
So any other sources available?
This is of course why Alfa Romeo in Australia is a complete joke. The problem is NOT with the cars, the problem is, and always has been Alfa Romeo Australia itself! (in all forms it has been over the years) >:( >:( >:(
As of last month, there is still no update available as far as I am aware.
This is simply ridiculous. I'll buy that apple carplay adapter from KAP so I can use google maps on the screen.
Found this Youtube video on How to upload latest maps for your later model Alfas. As I do not have a car to try on, I am unable to verify if the Mopar website works and whether maps available for AUS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAbxMWSWDaY
Nah, they have updates for Europe and USA every 6 months, but just a big nothing for Down Under since early 2018 LOL.
Hello, I'm new to this forum and although we have owned lots of Alfas our recently acquired 2018 Veloce is our first Alfa with inbuilt navigation. We love the car but the maps are years out of date and it appears there are no local updates and no interest from Alfa Australia in providing any.
I was in a budget 2014 Suzuki yesterday and it had up to date maps. It's just expected.
The maps in the 2018 Veloce (Map 991.8471) as they stand are not "fit for purpose" at best and possibly dangerous if they are giving instructions on how roads were 3 or 4 years ago.
Why don't we approach Alfa Romeo or consumer affairs as a group and insist on updates for our inbuilt mapping system?
Don't hold your breath rc211e.
When navigation is crucial, I use Waze or Google maps.
Otherwise, I use Alfa's included navigation which can make life interesting.
The problem for Australian owners of the Giulia is that there are few of us. The market for AR here is so small, investing in updates for a few customers will never be a priority.
Quote from: alfagtv100 (Biggus) on March 06, 2021, 10:18:19 PM
Don't hold your breath rc211e.
When navigation is crucial, I use Waze or Google maps.
Otherwise, I use Alfa's included navigation which can make life interesting.
The problem for Australian owners of the Giulia is that there are few of us. The market for AR here is so small, investing in updates for a few customers will never be a priority.
I didn't hold my breath, just as well. Android Auto works ok in Giulia and integrates well except it doesn't use the full screen.
Has anybody found any better solutions?
PS The weird little Tom Tom in the centre of my Mito dash is small but up to date and works pretty well.
Quote from: rc211e on February 21, 2021, 06:00:30 AM
Hello,
Why don't we approach Alfa Romeo or consumer affairs as a group and insist on updates for our inbuilt mapping system?
Damn good idea!
Each car sold here should have the latests map that is no more than 12 months old.
Dont know if this helps, but can you register on this site?
https://maps.mopar.eu/en/home
I just bought a brand new Guilia and was assured that it came with free updates for the navigation system for three years.
To discover that it shipped with maps from 2018 and no updates are available was certinaly surprising.
Using a phone via CarPlay doesn't seem like an adequate solution to me: it involves an extra step to connect the phone to the car (I use Bluetooth, if I even have my phone with me in the first place) and CarPlay doesn't integrate in with the cluster display. Furthermore, iOS mapping applications that support offline maps are often subscription based. I hate subscriptions. Why should I have to pay a subscription for offline maps on my $1200 phone because my car doesn't have up-to-date maps? Craziness.
Take the car back to the dealership and demand your money back citing "Product not fit for purpose!" & "False representation". >:(
And as they KNEW the system was useless when they sold it to you, so it's also fraud.
See my comments in reply #1 above. ::)
Had a 2015 Giulietta bought new ,series1 with the updated screen nav etc , so useless it even struggled with ipods and iphone , very disappointing compared to my 2012 x5 , perfomance light years ahead , i shudder to think they are going to make electric vehicles in the future , and good luck in dealing with alfa and dealerships in oz . Once bitten twice shy.
Hi everyone,
Just an update that I did eventually manage to update the maps on my MY22 Giulia without the assistance of either Stellantis or my dealer - both of whom informed me Australian map updates were unavailable.
The maps exist and are available - if you know where to look. However Stellantis for whatever reason are not making this information public or easily accessible for customers in Australia.
Any chance you want to tell everyone where to look?
I would love to, but my concern would be that by posting instructions on how to do it, the loophole may be closed.
I'm trying to ascertain if there's a mechanism by which I can distribute the maps without disclosing the method - which hopefully means it will remain open. As the maps aren't tied to a specific vehicle as they use an entitlement license already installed on the unit, it should be possible to simply distribute the update file. However finding somewhere to host such a large file is challenging.
Quote from: Lee on February 13, 2023, 02:48:27 PM
Hi everyone,
Just an update that I did eventually manage to update the maps on my MY22 Giulia without the assistance of either Stellantis or my dealer - both of whom informed me Australian map updates were unavailable.
The maps exist and are available - if you know where to look. However Stellantis for whatever reason are not making this information public or easily accessible for customers in Australia.
Hi Lee,
I just registered on this forum to ask, please help!
Looks like you've found Atlantis, can you direct us to where we can update our Giulia / Stelvio maps from? Hoping it covers the 2017-2019 cars too. You could even charge a commission for it, that's how badly some of us are wanting newer maps for our otherwise perfect cars!!!
Quote from: Lee on February 13, 2023, 04:49:30 PM
I would love to, but my concern would be that by posting instructions on how to do it, the loophole may be closed.
I'm trying to ascertain if there's a mechanism by which I can distribute the maps without disclosing the method - which hopefully means it will remain open. As the maps aren't tied to a specific vehicle as they use an entitlement license already installed on the unit, it should be possible to simply distribute the update file. However finding somewhere to host such a large file is challenging.
Hi Lee - any chance you can share the details for the benefit of the rest of us? You know, with Alfa Romeo Australia completely letting down it's paying Customer's time and time again.... Are maps for 2017-2019 cars available?
Here you go: March 2023 maps for the Giulia MY2020+ (with Connect 3D).
http://www.32kb.net/software/tomtom/2023.03/MAP50166.bin
Let me know how you go!
Lee
Quote from: Lee on June 17, 2023, 04:00:55 PMHere you go: March 2023 maps for the Giulia MY2020+ (with Connect 3D).
http://www.32kb.net/software/tomtom/2023.03/MAP50166.bin
Let me know how you go!
Lee
Thanks, unfortunately I have the MY17-19 Giulia, do you know where I can get those maps from? Also, doesn't the maps you shared need a licence file too?
Thank you again, but would be awesome if you shared how you gained access to the maps in the first place.
Hi mms,
The Connect 3D navigation system use in MY2020 onwards doesn't require a license file, just the maps. The file above should be all that is required for owners of these vehicles. Earlier makes do require the license file which is a (slightly) added complexity.
I will see if I can find a way to obtain maps for the earlier versions, including the license files.
The method for obtaining the maps isn't complex. My concern with sharing how they were obtained is that Stellantis may close the loophole.
Quote from: Lee on June 18, 2023, 09:20:37 AMHi mms,
The Connect 3D navigation system use in MY2020 onwards doesn't require a license file, just the maps. The file above should be all that is required for owners of these vehicles. Earlier makes do require the license file which is a (slightly) added complexity.
I will see if I can find a way to obtain maps for the earlier versions, including the license files.
The method for obtaining the maps isn't complex. My concern with sharing how they were obtained is that Stellantis may close the loophole.
Any update on this Lee?
The forum post of heartbreak.
Looks like they posted the maps for everybody on the navshop site for MY20+ cars, but shame nothing for the MY17-MY19.
Fca.navshop.com
Quote from: Lee on February 13, 2023, 04:49:30 PMI would love to, but my concern would be that by posting instructions on how to do it, the loophole may be closed.
I'm trying to ascertain if there's a mechanism by which I can distribute the maps without disclosing the method - which hopefully means it will remain open. As the maps aren't tied to a specific vehicle as they use an entitlement license already installed on the unit, it should be possible to simply distribute the update file. However finding somewhere to host such a large file is challenging.
I will gladly host it on behalf of everyone here. 😁