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General Category => Photos & Videos => Topic started by: David Mills on December 18, 2011, 03:30:21 PM

Title: Out & About
Post by: David Mills on December 18, 2011, 03:30:21 PM
Well, here's something I never knew about before!.  Spotted at the roadside today.

Despite the Alfa badges front & back and on the steering wheel, the reg sticker identifies it as a 1984 Marlin Roadster.  A quick web search reveals it to be an English kit car based on Morris Marina components.  There were models called Berlinetta, Romero, Julietta and Mille Miglia amongst others!

I don't want one.

Title: Re: Out & About
Post by: Darryl on December 18, 2011, 07:22:59 PM
My mum had a Marina - awful car. So as a basis for a kit excellent I guess - PO would probably pay you to take it away, and anything you could do to it/turn it into could only be an improvement  ;D
Title: Re: Out & About
Post by: colcol on December 18, 2011, 09:38:49 PM
Why worry about it having Morris Marina parts?, the front had proven torsion bars and lever type shock absorbers and the back had a solid rear axle with leaf springs, all off a 1950's Morris Major, i would be more concerned about a piano dropping on to it, Colin.
Title: Re: Out & About
Post by: colcol on December 25, 2011, 11:16:45 AM
I beleive most of the clubmans in the early days had Triumph Herald running gear, later on they used better engines 4valve heads, twin cams and injection from various makers, but they still used Triumph Hearald generic suspension replacement parts, which kind of means Triumph got it pretty right with the Herald, as for the Morris Marina parts, why would you?, maybe because they were still making it in 84, but they changed the name Marina to Morris Ital, but still a turd by any name, Colin.
Title: Re: Out & About
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on December 25, 2011, 12:58:18 PM
Quote from: colcol on December 25, 2011, 11:16:45 AM
which kind of means Triumph got it pretty right with the Herald

Maybe for the front, but the rear was notoriously bad, I'd be surprised if any kit-car used that. 
Title: Re: Out & About
Post by: colcol on December 25, 2011, 05:38:09 PM
Nothing wrong with swing axles, thousands of [dead] beetle owners can't be wrong, seriously, i don't know what suspension most clubmans used at the back, hopefully not a live axle with leaf springs of a Morris Major \ Marina \ Ital, Colin.
Title: Re: Out & About
Post by: David Mills on December 25, 2011, 07:32:22 PM
The car pictured had a live axle with leaf springs!  I don't know what a Marina front end looks like but the one on the car included torsion bars and smallish telescopic shocks.
Title: Re: Out & About
Post by: Paul Gulliver on December 25, 2011, 08:02:16 PM
Great shot of the Truimph Sheldon . About 30 years ago I remember a mates of mines mum's Truimph looking just like that moments before he parked it on its roof on the way home from the Portsea pub. We put it back on its wheels drove it home and hoped she wouldn't notice.
Title: Re: Out & About
Post by: colcol on December 25, 2011, 08:22:59 PM
Morris Marina's had front torsion bars, and there is nothing wrong with that, but instead of telescopic shock absorbers they had lever arm type, you know the type that work as door closers, Holden used them on the 48-215, but replaced them to telescopic type in 1953, Colin.
Title: Re: Out & About
Post by: David Mills on December 26, 2011, 11:35:24 AM
According to Wikipedia (risky source, I know) "More comprehensive suspension changes were made with the introduction in 1975 of the Mark 2; anti-roll bars were fitted which calmed the earlier car's wayward tendencies, but even as late as 1982, the Ital changed its Marina-derived front lever arm shock absorbers for telescopic shock absorbers."
Title: Re: Out & About
Post by: colcol on December 26, 2011, 09:48:10 PM
I know i am wandering of the original subject, but  when Ital restyled the Marina it went from Horrible looking to something quite good looking, like an Audi, but what would you expect from an Italian styled car something horrible looking, like the original Marina, Colin.
Title: Re: Out & About
Post by: Sheldon McIntosh on January 17, 2012, 12:43:46 AM
Here you go Col, I couldn't believe it when I came upon this sight at a 'Transport Museum' in NZ.  It was more like a musuem of mediocrity.  Looks like they parked it in the right place though, underneath the fire extinguishers.
Title: Re: Out & About
Post by: colcol on January 17, 2012, 09:30:51 PM
Should have been parked under a decending piano, Colin.
Title: Re: Out & About
Post by: David Mills on January 25, 2012, 04:51:25 PM
Well I suppose I did start talking about kit cars.  How about one of these?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Replica-Kit-2000-MIATA-Makes-Alfa-Romeo-Spider-Sports-Car-/180802329860?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2a18a89d04
Title: Re: Out & About
Post by: aggie57 on January 25, 2012, 06:22:50 PM
When I left Uni in Auckland I worked for a car dealer for 6 months cleaning and prepping new cars.  They were a BL and Honda dealer.  I remember Austin Allegro's and the very first 2-door (not hatchback) Honda Civic's. 

What a contrast - the Allegro's were just horrible cars and always had bits falling off them.  The Civic's were basic with rubber mats, really thin doors and little equipment but just worked and an absolute hoot to drive.  I imagine we had Marina's as well given they were current models then (late seventies) but quite frankly I don't remember them.  Guess that says it all.
Title: Re: Out & About
Post by: Beatle on January 25, 2012, 08:15:41 PM
So, David

Was the Marlin for sale?
Title: Re: Out & About
Post by: colcol on January 25, 2012, 08:55:04 PM
The last of the Eggrolls were actually quite well put together, and are becoming collectable, the first Civics were great, lots of noise, good handling, ripper motor, Honda build quality, don't think that the original Civic has been topped by any Civics since, Marina, aptly named, always fills with water when it rains, performance suggests has too many boats moored to it, thank you Tony Davis for that description, Colin.
Title: Re: Out & About
Post by: David Mills on January 29, 2012, 02:16:03 PM
Quote from: Paul Bayly on January 25, 2012, 08:15:41 PM
So, David

Was the Marlin for sale?

Don't know Paul.  I just saw it by the roadside.  But then everything is for sale isn't it?

Phil from NAMT in Launceston where my Z4R is currently on dispaly as part of Bella Alfa Romeo  http://www.namt.com.au/event.jsp?event=717  tells me lots of people want to buy it!