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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #285 on: November 14, 2021, 11:48:10 PM »
Agreed John that 9mm is overkill. A thiner metal would give it a cleaner look as well as it doesn't stick up so high. However I am surprised that I managed to pick the correct galvanized steel metal so for me anything from there is a bonus as never done this before ;D.
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« Reply #286 on: November 15, 2021, 09:01:20 PM »
Why weld at all when some reinforced duct tape would've done the job alright too?

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« Reply #287 on: November 15, 2021, 10:24:43 PM »
Why weld at all when some reinforced duct tape would've done the job alright too?

I needed to fix up a few speed holes I made with the chisel as well. I have used flashing tape and silicone on rusted out gutters before and it still let water through so I figure welding and covering it with underbody spray and than paint on the interior side should be a good result for the price of a welder and a few beers. I doubt it affects the rigidity in any scale but in case of a racing incident if I have a mate in the car I would rather know that I did everything I reasonably could to ensure its a "safe" race car. But I completely understand why previously some of the holes were covered up with tape. It's been about 10 hours of work and almost done. Plus I can weld at a beginner level and know not to ever buy a rusted classic car to restore myself unless I don't want to speak to anyone for many years ;D. So far it's about 3 months and I reckon about 200 hours put in the car. But it should be done soon and I didn't think I would own a race car so it's a pretty good result overall.
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« Reply #288 on: November 17, 2021, 04:57:26 PM »
Off to the mechanics. Did all I can do as leaving timing belt, water pump and bucket seat, harness for the pros. Pretty good result for 3 months of work and around 200 hours.

Break down of costs involved:

Car $1000
Bucket seat $1200
Rails $100
Harness $270
Steering Wheel $350
Gear knob $50
Spark plugs $50 for bosch + $150 ngk as no one shipped them
Brakes $580 pads
Braided lines $200
Discs $320
Tyres $800
Headlight bulbs $50
Battery $250
Wipers $100
Stickers $450
Oils $300
Towing Straps $100

About $6,500

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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #289 on: November 17, 2021, 05:05:58 PM »
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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #290 on: November 17, 2021, 05:28:07 PM »
Impressive - Looks set to go. 
All sorted for Philip Island this Sunday?
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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #291 on: November 18, 2021, 11:06:51 AM »
Well done! The car looking good, apart from the gap between the guard and the bumper which bugs me.

Is it your first time on a track ever or just in the Alfa?

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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #292 on: November 18, 2021, 11:48:05 AM »
Impressive - Looks set to go. 
All sorted for Philip Island this Sunday?

It's tentative. Depends on the mechanic and how much wires I shouldn't have cut out. :D
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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #293 on: November 18, 2021, 11:52:01 AM »
Well done! The car looking good, apart from the gap between the guard and the bumper which bugs me.

Is it your first time on a track ever or just in the Alfa?

Gap is there as didn't screw in the screws on the side as I found I have to do full lock and had a bunch of other things to do before the tow truck came. Rest assured the gap won't be there permanently ;D.

I have done sprints at Sandown, Winton and Phillip Island before in various cars over the years. But first time in the 156. It got to the point where I have realized there isn't much point in tracking a road registered sports car especially at today's prices. The only good thing about old cars used to be the price and now that everything has become a van gogh I prefer to do it in a cost effective way. I have spent too much money on cars and trying to limit that now.
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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #294 on: November 23, 2021, 12:12:21 PM »
Car looked pretty good from up in Race Control - difficult to miss!. 
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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #295 on: November 23, 2021, 10:20:41 PM »
Yeah really good. Best motoring experience I have ever had. I love the light weight, no traction and no stability control interfering. I could even get rid of the abs as it was kicking in on the hair pin.

Ended up with a 2.08 flat so pretty happy for the first time out in the car. That was with a crooked steering wheel as didn't get a wheel alignment in time. Turns out I got the double R version of the federal so very happy they they held up for the whole day. Car didn't screech once.

A huge thanks to Hugh and the guys at Monza Motors for getting the sorted in time. Hugh has one of the fastest twin sparks and is a wealth of knowledge about the Twin Spark Cup. Also taught me how to trailer a car. Make sure you have the 2.5 tonne ratchet straps which I got from bunnings.

Got a new water pump, timing belt and pulleys. Also had the bucket seat, harness installed plus brakes which was about $2,500 so car owes me about $9,000 now.

Hired the car carrier trailer from u haul but turned out that the car won't get up the trailer. So had to get a beaver tail trailer and than a car to tow it as it was above my tow car capacity. That was probably the most stressful part of the whole experience as haven't done it before.

Found out that the red eibachs were an option on the car so many 156s had them ticked.

Another tip I got is overfill the oil by half a litre to prevent oil surge and bearings going.

Took off the engine cover and timing belt cover for weight and better heat management in the engine bay.

Next step will be to take out the air con and cat.

Another tip was to get the roll cage that goes into the dashboard so you have more space to get in and out of the car. I understand why people buy quick release steering wheels now as it's not too graceful to get in and out.

From what I understand is that slotted rotors are okay for the Twin Spark Cup. A few guys looked over the car and it looks like it fits within the regulations.
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« Reply #296 on: November 23, 2021, 10:30:21 PM »
Got a tonne of positive comments of the colour scheme so very happy with the whole process. Took a bit of time and money but it's well worth it.

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« Reply #298 on: November 29, 2021, 02:22:52 PM »
Here are some pics for a potential solution for the bucket seat and harness set up. I love the momo bucket seat, steering wheel, gear knob and pedals. I should have got a momo harness as well. I found that by taking out the cushion I fit well with a helmet on. It's not perfect but with the adjustable steering column that goes all the way up and out, it's fine to get through a track day.
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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #299 on: November 29, 2021, 02:24:52 PM »
A few more. Sorry bazz but didn't have time to figure out a new fire extinguisher set up. Most advice is gtfo and run anyway in case of fire :o
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