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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #255 on: November 05, 2021, 04:24:35 PM »
Speaking of weight and potentially safety, can I get rid of the lock switch and wires? It won't affect the doors being closed from the outside? Or do I need to keep it for some regulation somewhere?
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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #256 on: November 05, 2021, 04:25:55 PM »
Also here are the jack points that I am using for the rear. Found it by digging through threads. Disclaimer this isn't safety advice.
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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #257 on: November 05, 2021, 05:49:53 PM »
I'm curious as to how much car mass has been lost as a result of the fairly comprehensive shedding of material.
Did you weigh the car prior to hacking in to it? 
The club has corner weight scales if you want weigh the car.  Just need to find a very flat surface.

I am happy to weigh the car Colin. If you are at Phillip Island at the AROCA sprint than we could set them up? I took out the foam bumper bits behind the bumper, most of the dash is gone etc
I'll be at PI on the 21st.  I can bring the scales.  Make sure you bring a good trolley jack that will pick up one half of the car at a time.  Have you booked a garage?  The floors in the garages under the main grandstands aren't too bad. 
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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #258 on: November 05, 2021, 07:58:20 PM »
I'm curious as to how much car mass has been lost as a result of the fairly comprehensive shedding of material.
Did you weigh the car prior to hacking in to it? 
The club has corner weight scales if you want weigh the car.  Just need to find a very flat surface.

I am happy to weigh the car Colin. If you are at Phillip Island at the AROCA sprint than we could set them up? I took out the foam bumper bits behind the bumper, most of the dash is gone etc
I'll be at PI on the 21st.  I can bring the scales.  Make sure you bring a good trolley jack that will pick up one half of the car at a time.  Have you booked a garage?  The floors in the garages under the main grandstands aren't too bad.

Sounds good. I will see if I can pre book a garage.
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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #259 on: November 05, 2021, 10:05:44 PM »
Also here are the jack points that I am using for the rear. Found it by digging through threads. Disclaimer this isn't safety advice.

Just for future reference, that is not a good place to jack the car, as the rear suspension mount that you are using is made of alloy and bolted to the chassis at the ends, thus the center section is unsupported. I mention all this as people have cracked them in the past by using them as jack points.

Just thought I should mention it.

Have fun at the track, and do try and keep it upright.  ;)
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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #260 on: November 05, 2021, 10:16:32 PM »
Also here are the jack points that I am using for the rear. Found it by digging through threads. Disclaimer this isn't safety advice.

Just for future reference, that is not a good place to jack the car, as the rear suspension mount that you are using is made of alloy and bolted to the chassis at the ends, thus the center section is unsupported. I mention all this as people have cracked them in the past by using them as jack points.

Just thought I should mention it.

Have fun at the track, and do try and keep it upright.  ;)

Cheers bazz. Is there a jacking point where you can lift the car in the rear and front?
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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #261 on: November 06, 2021, 06:33:53 AM »
Wanted to research the touring cars weight and there is a book on it already. Amazon have some 2nd hand copies at a good price.

I have this book, itís a nice one but donít expect too much technical stuff to look up in it

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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #262 on: November 06, 2021, 01:05:18 PM »
Anyone know what tool can push the rear piston in the caliper back? I bought the cube tool and it doesn't really fit well. Maybe it's seized? Should it be easy to twist clockwise?

The braided brake lines aren't too bad to put on. Need flare nut spanners in 11mm, 14mm and 17mm. Put it into the caliper first than the brake line up the top. Being a metal brake line up the top, you can't use clippers to stop the flow of brake fluid but it drips out at a pretty slow pace. Washer goes on the top part.

Although I am stuck with screwing in the top part into the line so either it doesn't fit or it's super hard to put on so might just take it off and put the old ones back and give to the mechanic.
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« Reply #263 on: November 06, 2021, 04:59:59 PM »
Iíve got this one:
https://www.repco.com.au/en/tools-equipment/automotive-tools/braking/gearwrench-rear-brake-caliper-set-11pc-41540/p/A9716200

It works alright, though the older caliper that you have is more annoying to wind than newer ones

You need to wind and push at the same time which this tool does

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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #264 on: November 06, 2021, 06:15:12 PM »
Iíve got this one:
https://www.repco.com.au/en/tools-equipment/automotive-tools/braking/gearwrench-rear-brake-caliper-set-11pc-41540/p/A9716200

It works alright, though the older caliper that you have is more annoying to wind than newer ones

You need to wind and push at the same time which this tool does

Bought that kit and it works well. Turns out the rear drivers side caliper is siezed as it retracts about half way and stops. Eventually the rubber split from turning so will have to get a new caliper. Other side was fine.

I think the braided brake lines are fine as other side turned out the sane way. The standard brake line sticks out as well so should be okay.

Tip: if it's not screwing on than pull down the factory line end bit and it will work. Makes more sense when you doing it ;D. I also now remember why I stopped wrenching on cars :o. Everything takes many hours when doing it at home ::).
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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #265 on: November 06, 2021, 07:31:40 PM »
I have a bag of calipers, but even though I have a set one like these, but one is half-seized too, caused the car to veer under braking. So I think the left one is stuffed.

I installed a set from facelift 147. Same rotor diameter but different caliper and pad.

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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #266 on: November 11, 2021, 05:05:39 PM »
Car won't start. Cranks really well. Got a new battery. But when pressing accelerator it does nothing. Lights all work.

These are the dash lights. Any ideas on what could be wrong besides I cut out something that was needed to start?
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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #267 on: November 11, 2021, 05:38:03 PM »
Could be any number of things, besides the obvious that you've already mentioned.  ;)

How long has it been since you last started it?

Diagnostics would hopefully give you an idea as to what would be wrong, otherwise it's all "taking potshots in the dark" guessing as to what it could be.

I'll start it all off with "Any fuel in the tank" ? 
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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #268 on: November 11, 2021, 05:56:42 PM »
Could be any number of things, besides the obvious that you've already mentioned.  ;)

How long has it been since you last started it?

Diagnostics would hopefully give you an idea as to what would be wrong, otherwise it's all "taking potshots in the dark" guessing as to what it could be.

I'll start it all off with "Any fuel in the tank" ?

Half a tank of fuel.

Started it last about 2 months ago.

Immobiliser seems okay even though code comes up when you first start the car.

The dash light for what looks like a hose spraying or fuel injector occasionally flashes as it cranks.

Checked these fuses and relays and seem okay.
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Re: Twin Spark Cup & Enduro 156 Project
« Reply #269 on: November 11, 2021, 06:19:51 PM »
Is there an obd port on this one? I do have a blue tooth obd 2 thing and I had a diagnostic tool for my GT which worked but can't find the port on this 156.

Edit found it ;D

Obd Bluetooth tool would not want to talk to the ecu.

Tried to hook up diagnostic tool about 10 times but it does not want to communicate.

Conclusion: the ecu needs to see a therapist ;D
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