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Anth73

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Driverís side mirror
« on: November 05, 2019, 10:58:05 PM »
Finally picked up the GTV from Monza Motors and found the driverís side wing mirror would fold in when travelling at high speeds, say above 80kmh. Is there a way to tighten the mirror so it holds its position at freeway speeds?

Nothing obvious I could see on the mirror housing and no luck with Dr Google.

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Anth
« Last Edit: December 21, 2019, 11:42:18 AM by Anth73 »

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Re: Driverís wing mirror adjustment
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2019, 04:11:43 PM »
Hi Anth73
Not sure if we are talking 116 or 932 Series mirrors. If it is a 932 series, then the following post might help as I had a similar problem on my 156 JTS.  Here is the link to the post on how to rectify with pictures.
http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=17791.0
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Re: Driverís wing mirror adjustment
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2019, 08:33:49 PM »
Hi Anth73
Not sure if we are talking 116 or 932 Series mirrors. If it is a 932 series, then the following post might help as I had a similar problem on my 156 JTS.  Here is the link to the post on how to rectify with pictures.
http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=17791.0

Defintely a 116 GTV.

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Re: Driverís wing mirror adjustment
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2019, 09:14:10 PM »
Well in that case, I would suggest that the nut has come loose at the base of the attachment point and body and needs to be tightened. Remove mirror by removing the 3 mounting screws to get access to the nut and tighten sufficiently to give sufficient grip and reattach the mirror (refer to the photo OEM mirror fitted).
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Re: Driverís wing mirror adjustment
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2019, 11:06:09 AM »
Lucky you. My nut has rusted on and I can't get it off. I am hoping I could adjust the resting position of mine (passenger side) so I could angle it to be actually useful. When you tighten it, see if there is any adjustability of the rest position.

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Re: Driverís wing mirror adjustment
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2019, 09:12:48 AM »
How to undo the mirror nut. I place a screw extractor into the threaded tube the motor wires run through, disconnect the wires at the connector block pull them through the tube.
The screw extractor will hold the tube while you use the 17mm socket to undo the nut.
The rear cover and the motor housing are easily removed with a small flat blade screwdriver by gently levering the tab retainer to release the tabs from the mirror housing 
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Re: Driverís wing mirror adjustment
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2019, 09:53:22 PM »
Thanks, I will give that a try.

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Re: Driverís wing mirror adjustment
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2019, 05:58:20 PM »
Thanks Bonno I will try unmounting the mirror and tightening the nut as you described.

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Re: Driverís wing mirror adjustment
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2019, 08:43:04 PM »
Does anyone know where I can get new glass mirror , my Alfetta gtv mirror is badly scratched. :(
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Re: Driverís wing mirror adjustment
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2019, 08:49:37 PM »
Speak to your local glazier, who should be able to cut a mirror to match youíre existing piece. 
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Re: Driverís wing mirror adjustment
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2019, 08:17:40 PM »
Thanks Bonno I will try unmounting the mirror and tightening the nut as you described.

Unscrewed the door mirror and found the tightening nut wouldn't budge, though it is hard to reach it with a spanner and a socket plus driver was no good due to the electrical wires for the motor in the mirror. After several days applying WD40 I managed to thread a 17mm socket through the wires and into the nut, then wedge a small spanner into the socket and twist the nut free.

I'm thinking of adding a small spring washer to hopefully provide a little more resistance to stop the mirror turning in above 50kph.

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Re: Driverís wing mirror adjustment
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2019, 07:24:01 PM »
Whilst I managed to lock the mirror in place by adding an additional spacer washer itís clear my mirror is missing a spring that allows the mirror to lock into one of three preset positions.

Attached is a photo of my hack for comparison with the additional zinc plated washer. Anyone able to show me your mirror and advise where I could source the missing spring without having to buy an entire mirror?
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Re: Driverís wing mirror adjustment
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2019, 01:56:16 PM »
Is there enough length on the threaded part to fit a spring and still attach the nut? It might be the angle of the photo but the nut seems to be towards the end of the thread. Keep in mind the spring is perhaps 8-10mm long. Maybe that is why there is no spring installed.

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Re: Driverís wing mirror adjustment
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2019, 03:03:22 PM »
Hi Anth73
Suggest that a S/S compression spring is required of the following dimensions to fit the internal cast recess (outside diameter mm, free length, loaded length and approx. solid height) similar to the one shown at the following link. I have attached 2 x photos of the mirror base incorporating cast recess and the 3 x protrusion to provide locked rotation
https://www.accu.co.uk/en/1280-compression-springs#elasticsearch_id_feature_811008=811008_397&elasticsearch_id_feature_810791=810791_754&id_elasticsearch_category=1280&orderby=ranking&orderway=asc
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Re: Driverís wing mirror adjustment
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2019, 04:06:33 PM »
If you look closely at Bonno's photo you will notice three raised sections in the base plate of the mirror, these move against three detents or low points in the mirror housing, it is between these two pieces that a spring allows enough tension and release for the two sections of the mirror to rotate and return to a set point if pushed or hit. It could be that the wear of the high and low points is allowing the mirror to rotate freely,       
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