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carlo rossi

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balancing tailshaft on car update
« on: April 12, 2019, 07:22:10 PM »
ok rather than spend $2000 for removal and balance i found a you tube on how to balance insitu
basically buy 2 70mm screw clamps
start engine get your mate to rev it to where it vibrates around 2100rpm
on a hoist get some chalk and very gently introduce it so that it just touches
turn motor off
put screw clamps  on and place the screw section 180 degrees opposite chalk marks
restart engine does it feel different?  then to improve adjust in 3cm increments one of the braces
worse go other direction
better but still there move it 1cm either direction marking it last location
stat again and test
after4 or 5 times you will be very close
enjoy
« Last Edit: May 06, 2019, 05:14:46 PM by carlo rossi »
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Re: balancing tailshaft update
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2019, 07:54:43 PM »
Got a link to the you tube?
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Re: balancing tailshaft update
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2019, 08:10:49 PM »
Sounds interesting where do you get the braces from
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Re: balancing tailshaft update
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2019, 08:36:27 PM »
https://youtu.be/zuPSGJZpL3k

i used my own modified version of this
it works
the braces from bunnings
current cars
red 83 gtv 2.0


previous cars
Red 76 1.2/1.5 alfasud ti
white 79 alfetta 2000
alfetta 74 1.8
escort Lotus twin cam
bikes
ducati 900 ss 1979
moto morini 3 1/2 sport 1975/6
Moto morini 3 1/2 valentini speciale 77 oh and a deltek rockhopper

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Re: balancing tailshaft update
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2019, 10:45:53 PM »
You had me a little confused there, don't you mean 70mm hose clamps?

THIS is a speedbrace -

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Re: balancing tailshaft update
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2019, 02:47:31 PM »
Yeh brain snap no idea why
Screw clamps ala hose clamps
Ps i got it very close and then i took one off perfect
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Red 76 1.2/1.5 alfasud ti
white 79 alfetta 2000
alfetta 74 1.8
escort Lotus twin cam
bikes
ducati 900 ss 1979
moto morini 3 1/2 sport 1975/6
Moto morini 3 1/2 valentini speciale 77 oh and a deltek rockhopper

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Re: balancing tailshaft update
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2019, 03:35:07 PM »
Just out of curiosity, did you use the same water & cup method as an indicator.
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Re: balancing tailshaft update
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2019, 04:50:03 PM »
No just the feel of it st around 2000rpm
When i got close i took it for a drive
Didnt really have the interest in the water method no time to build jig off the centre bearing
But it would be the best for the ultimate fine tune
might look at it down the track
how did you go
« Last Edit: April 14, 2019, 06:54:56 AM by carlo rossi »
current cars
red 83 gtv 2.0


previous cars
Red 76 1.2/1.5 alfasud ti
white 79 alfetta 2000
alfetta 74 1.8
escort Lotus twin cam
bikes
ducati 900 ss 1979
moto morini 3 1/2 sport 1975/6
Moto morini 3 1/2 valentini speciale 77 oh and a deltek rockhopper

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Re: balancing tailshaft update
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2019, 02:07:19 PM »
Looks like a good option for those who donít want to spend 2k on a balance
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Re: balancing tailshaft update
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2019, 03:03:06 PM »
If necessity is the mother of invention, then surely desperation is the father of it, for I have seen men with a necessity be very clever, yet wondered at how the desperate are driven to be downright bloody brilliant! - Baz

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Re: balancing tailshaft update
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2019, 02:06:18 PM »
It appears  the US tolerances are not as close as alfa '
so only use 1 clamp on the engine half of the tail shaft
Im finally enjoying a smooth ride after almost 8 years
fantastic
current cars
red 83 gtv 2.0


previous cars
Red 76 1.2/1.5 alfasud ti
white 79 alfetta 2000
alfetta 74 1.8
escort Lotus twin cam
bikes
ducati 900 ss 1979
moto morini 3 1/2 sport 1975/6
Moto morini 3 1/2 valentini speciale 77 oh and a deltek rockhopper