Hyundai aims to be sexier than Alfa Romeo

Started by ugame, August 06, 2018, 06:40:46 PM

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ugame

Past: 180SX | 300ZX Twin Turbo | 350Z HR Roadster | 300C 5.7 V8 HEMI | 98 GTV 2.0 TS
Present: 2002 GTV 2.0 TS | 147 TS | 74 Super Beetle | Porsche Cayman S 987.1
Future: I've stopped looking. Wife says "No more Alfas" lol.

Citroënbender

QuoteHyundai's VP for design SangYup Lee has declared that from next year all new Hyundai models will be "sexier than Alfa Romeos".
Does he parade around in a mesh vest, saying "I'm too sexy for my shirt"?


Citroënbender

You have to credit the emotive slant he's taken. 

I have neighbours who are Hyundai addicts, they pilot maybe four of them.  They look at my 147 and don't get it.  Mr Lee has a BIG mission ahead, and if he really believes that objective - what a bloke.

Pseudonym

I love that it's the bench mark though. Word association between sexy and car equals Alfa [emoji108]

I wouldn't out it past them - I mean they'll never have the soul from the heritage and the bonkers form over function design choices, but once upon a time we scoffed at the idea of a sporting Hyundai, and now look at the i30n, they basically hit the segment for hatchback GT 86 bang on.

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poohbah

Good to see he knows that Alfa is the benchmark.

But boy does he have a job ahead of him.

The Veloster must be one of the ugliest cars I've seen in a long while - reminds me of a cockroach.

Mind you, so does the new Civic. An awful design that will date quicker than a US sitcom. Drove past one today and I truly couldn't tell if it had been in an accident that dented the side panels. Only colour I've seen it in that makes it passable is black - cos it hides the shape.

Also saw my first Stinger in the fless today too - styling is way too busy to my eye and it looks like it weighs two tonnes. Too fat over the hips.

Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

ugame

Quote from: poohbah on August 08, 2018, 12:32:44 PM
Good to see he knows that Alfa is the benchmark.

But boy does he have a job ahead of him.

The Veloster must be one of the ugliest cars I've seen in a long while - reminds me of a cockroach.

Mind you, so does the new Civic. An awful design that will date quicker than a US sitcom. Drove past one today and I truly couldn't tell if it had been in an accident that dented the side panels. Only colour I've seen it in that makes it passable is black - cos it hides the shape.

Also saw my first Stinger in the fless today too - styling is way too busy to my eye and it looks like it weighs two tonnes. Too fat over the hips.

Na see I'd have to totally disagree with you there mate.

Friends, for example, I think holds up quite well. :P :D
Past: 180SX | 300ZX Twin Turbo | 350Z HR Roadster | 300C 5.7 V8 HEMI | 98 GTV 2.0 TS
Present: 2002 GTV 2.0 TS | 147 TS | 74 Super Beetle | Porsche Cayman S 987.1
Future: I've stopped looking. Wife says "No more Alfas" lol.

poohbah

www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2016/12/2017-honda-civic-hatchback-ugliest-car-ive-driven-since/

I am clearly not alone.

BTW - I have just one name to throw in the ring: Joanie Loves Chachie (the horror, the horror  :-[)
Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

carlo rossi

that civic is a very ugly car
A friend of mine was saying the other day the problemn with modern car design is the cad
programs there are only adozen or so of them '
so you get repetition alot and they dont like curves
curves are hard for a computer as we know a circle by definition
has infinite sides it has to create short cuts
current cars
red 83 gtv 2.0


previous cars
Red 76 1.2/1.5 alfasud ti
white 79 alfetta 2000
alfetta 74 1.8
escort Lotus twin cam
bikes
ducati 900 ss 1979
moto morini 3 1/2 sport 1975/6
Moto morini 3 1/2 valentini speciale 77 oh and a deltek rockhopper

poohbah

Agreed Carlo. Most of the current crop of cars in each class pretty much all look just like each other. Subaru should go as far as suing Nissan for plagiarism over the latest Pathfinder - dead set rip off of the Forester, only bigger.

Its one of the reasons I love the look of my 156 - it really is a class above most current cars yet still looks contemporary (especially as mine has no sills, spoilers or other bolt-ons ruining the lines). I still get the occasional query from non-car people wondering what it is and if its new.
Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

ugame

#10
I wasn't arguing about the Civic hatch.

I've moved on to the more important debate about whether american sitcoms age well :D

Everybody Loves Raymond?

I swear that show is a hidden camera on my life.  Even down to the twins, and I have to say, my wife and "Debra" are not that far apart. I count myself lucky :D

ok fine...let's talk about "cars".

The Honda Civic sedan from ....oh....around 2007 I think is a pure work of art :P

As for CAD....CAD is not the problem. Lazy cad USERS are the problem. Templating is the problem.  Sure a computer will never draw a "true" curve, but my god it'll be so close that you and I can't see the diference.

Back in the 70s and 80's when CAD was coming into it's own and replacing more traditional drawing method BUT they couldn't handle cuves, yes that were true.

And my God did we go through a period of boxy designs because of it.

Cars had curves back in the day, and then we saw THIS:

and every other car of the era that looked like it.

THAT was when CAD was a problem.

Not anymore.

Let's not forget that vector graphics work not be drawing lines, but by plotting points. This makes the images infinitely scalable.

God I'm dull at parties.
Past: 180SX | 300ZX Twin Turbo | 350Z HR Roadster | 300C 5.7 V8 HEMI | 98 GTV 2.0 TS
Present: 2002 GTV 2.0 TS | 147 TS | 74 Super Beetle | Porsche Cayman S 987.1
Future: I've stopped looking. Wife says "No more Alfas" lol.

poohbah

I'm a Raymond fan too.

But I always kinda liked the TE and TF Cortinas - and the XD Falcon (but not the XE or XFs).

In fact my penchant for 70-80s-style "boxes" is one of the reasons why I love my GTV (I prefer the plastic bumper models!) so much and am determined to get a 75 eventually.

Its an age thing I guess - I finished high school in '86.

Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

ugame

Quote from: poohbah on August 08, 2018, 05:18:05 PM
I'm a Raymond fan too.

But I always kinda liked the TE and TF Cortinas - and the XD Falcon (but not the XE or XFs).

In fact my penchant for 70-80s-style "boxes" is one of the reasons why I love my GTV (I prefer the plastic bumper models!) so much and am determined to get a 75 eventually.

Its an age thing I guess - I finished high school in '86.

Nostalgia is a powerful thing.  I'd take the above Cortina because my dad had one.
THIS makes me want one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjOExkGV9oY

But then....I'd also, for the same reasons, buy one of these.......


My god it was a hateful car when we rode in it as kids from Kent to Somerset for a "holiday".

But now on the very very rare occasion I see one, my neck almost snaps as I try to look at it as I drive past.
Past: 180SX | 300ZX Twin Turbo | 350Z HR Roadster | 300C 5.7 V8 HEMI | 98 GTV 2.0 TS
Present: 2002 GTV 2.0 TS | 147 TS | 74 Super Beetle | Porsche Cayman S 987.1
Future: I've stopped looking. Wife says "No more Alfas" lol.

poohbah

This is getting embarrassing. I too have a thing for Austin 1800s - and ... ahem... the Austin Kimberley

Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

kaleuclint

That Cortina is wonderful!  People in Europe couldn't believe we had them with 4.1 litres under the bonnet.  Love the colour too.

Reality tells us that Italy does operatic masterpieces while Korea does K-pop.
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