Cheap Dailys??

Started by V AR 164, May 16, 2018, 03:21:10 PM

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V AR 164

Cheers for the replies,

Alot of food for thought. Have thought of a 2005ish Yaris, and although they are verrry boring, parts are cheap as and their fuel economy is great.

Considering an early Swift or a Mazda 323 Protege, manual of course. I was also looking at MX5s, and it would be heaps of fun and i'll own my first RWD car, but they are a tad too expensive and I feel as though if I had a RWD car, I would just be tempted to slide it about...

Also was looking at a 147, but again, would like something a bit more 'mainstream'. As CB said, I would like a change in scenery, something from Japan would be very welcomed.

Quote from: poohbah on May 17, 2018, 09:10:33 AM
Cripes. Don't tell Tony those GTA rims are probably worth as much as he wants for the whole car!

I thought they were the standard rims on the car? I always thought the GTA rims had the 5 circle design?

Cheers, Andrew.
Present:
-1992 164Q
-1993 Hilux Surf

Past:
-2006 159 2.4 Ti

poohbah

I may be wrong - I thought the 147 GTA rims were three ring. No matter, buy the rims get the car for free! Aren't they what is on your recently acquired 164Q?

Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

Citroënbender

RWD cheap hoon fun = ex-Taxi Falcon wagon on LPG. 3m wheelbase makes them fairly stable and predictable.

But do you really want to lose points or nudge your premium for hanging the tail out?  And the minute you take your "cheap car" to the track to get it sideways it is not a cheap car anymore, it's another hobby costing more than the money you thought you would save.

You can buy a shitter E46 for a few thou, it's another car well supplied by aftermarket internet parts.  Judging by the Gumtree adverts, many seem to come with P-plates more or less permanently stuck on them.

V AR 164

Quote from: Citroënbender on May 17, 2018, 07:32:21 PM
RWD cheap hoon fun = ex-Taxi Falcon wagon on LPG. 3m wheelbase makes them fairly stable and predictable.

But do you really want to lose points or nudge your premium for hanging the tail out?  And the minute you take your "cheap car" to the track to get it sideways it is not a cheap car anymore, it's another hobby costing more than the money you thought you would save.

You can buy a shitter E46 for a few thou, it's another car well supplied by aftermarket internet parts.  Judging by the Gumtree adverts, many seem to come with P-plates more or less permanently stuck on them.

Exactly my thought, I want a daily, not another project!!! I want to get something which is difficult to modify, so I won't have the urge to mod it. And I can't loose licence points drifting if I get a FWD, something that I wouldn't be able to say if I pick up a VX or BA...

Quote from: poohbah on May 17, 2018, 07:27:35 PM
I may be wrong - I thought the 147 GTA rims were three ring. No matter, buy the rims get the car for free! Aren't they what is on your recently acquired 164Q?

Hahaha, fair enough. Indeed, they are the wheels that were on the black car. Still unsure if I like them or not, the tri spoke design hasn't grown on me yet.

Andrew
Present:
-1992 164Q
-1993 Hilux Surf

Past:
-2006 159 2.4 Ti

poohbah

#19
I'm very surprised you can get these so cheap. Tough as nails too. But almost too nice for a beater.

www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Subaru-Liberty-2001/OAG-AD-15968789/?Cr=0

And it seems the three ring are just standard 147s - but at least I got the price right!
www.ebay.com.au/itm/Alfa-Romeo-147-17-wheels-rims-alloys-toyo-tyres-/292367599560
Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

Citroënbender

I've mostly seen those wheels on Ti trim 147s, with matching lowered suspension and extra-bolstered seats. Look like the "Biohazard" symbol to me!

V AR 164

Quote from: poohbah on May 17, 2018, 09:56:45 PM
I'm very surprised you can get these so cheap. Tough as nails too. But almost too nice for a beater.

www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Subaru-Liberty-2001/OAG-AD-15968789/?Cr=0

And it seems the three ring are just standard 147s - but at least I got the price right!
www.ebay.com.au/itm/Alfa-Romeo-147-17-wheels-rims-alloys-toyo-tyres-/292367599560

That Liberty is sweet! I didn't even know they were as cheap as that! Definitely one to consider, although I agree with it being too nice for a beater. But it is indeed a very nice car... ugh, too many decisions haha
Present:
-1992 164Q
-1993 Hilux Surf

Past:
-2006 159 2.4 Ti

Paul Gulliver

With Black GONE & cash in your pocket pressure is on.
Paul Gulliver
Present
2017 Silver Giulia Veloce
1979 Silver Alfa 116 GTV Twin Spark
1973 Red Alfa 105 2.0 GTV

Past
2013 Giulietta QV
2006 Black 159 2.2 J
1970 Dutch Blue Series 2 1750
1975 Blue Alfetta Sedan 1.8
1981 Piper Yellow Alfetta GTV 2000
1985 Red Alfetta GTV2.0
1989 White Alfa 164
2000 156

V AR 164

Definitely, may sell the silver car with the black one so will free up even more space and some extra cash can't hurt!!

Been looking at small hatchbacks and the 1995ish Starlet's have caught my eye.

Always thought they were pretty cool cars, just something about they way they look. Fuel efficient, 4 door, manual and parts are very cheap, whats not to like?

Andrew.
Present:
-1992 164Q
-1993 Hilux Surf

Past:
-2006 159 2.4 Ti

Paul Gulliver

#24
Maybe get something a little bit heavier ( not much)  with an airbag. I remember hiring one of those (Starlet) many years ago. The sound of  the drivers door slamming didn't inspire a lot of confidence. Also not to sure if 1.3 litres really cuts the mustard anymore . Maybe 1.6 , 1.8 or 2.0 litres is going to keep up with traffic and not afraid of a hill or slight incline.
Paul Gulliver
Present
2017 Silver Giulia Veloce
1979 Silver Alfa 116 GTV Twin Spark
1973 Red Alfa 105 2.0 GTV

Past
2013 Giulietta QV
2006 Black 159 2.2 J
1970 Dutch Blue Series 2 1750
1975 Blue Alfetta Sedan 1.8
1981 Piper Yellow Alfetta GTV 2000
1985 Red Alfetta GTV2.0
1989 White Alfa 164
2000 156

Pseudonym

NX coupe or SSS pulsar will cost minimal fuel, is probably already door dinted to hell and as long as they've serviced it well is pretty much bulletproof and enough fun that you'll want to do the suspension.

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Quote from: Citroënbender on May 17, 2018, 07:32:21 PM
RWD cheap hoon fun = ex-Taxi Falcon wagon on LPG. 3m wheelbase makes them fairly stable and predictable.

How much do these things cost?  When I see an ex-taxi in private use I tend to think: how desperate are these people?  Alternatively they might be a 'disposable car' bargain and they are actually laughing at me!


2011 159ti 1750TBi

Citroënbender

Prices vary widely, rust treatment was hit-and-miss. Also the amount of bruising and mileage will impact. 

The other issue with ex-cabs used to be the obsessives, a subset who were convinced "Gotta get an ex-taxi on LPG because it's cheap to run" but would overpay in real terms for the relative economy and overall condition of their asset. This can push asking prices up.

I really like LWB vehicles for the composed ride, but if you find yourself doing laps of the inner city looking for a parking space, something measurably shorter usually appeals.  :)

Paul Gulliver

#28
"3m wheelbase makes them fairly stable and predictable. "

He wants to buy something to drive not live in
Paul Gulliver
Present
2017 Silver Giulia Veloce
1979 Silver Alfa 116 GTV Twin Spark
1973 Red Alfa 105 2.0 GTV

Past
2013 Giulietta QV
2006 Black 159 2.2 J
1970 Dutch Blue Series 2 1750
1975 Blue Alfetta Sedan 1.8
1981 Piper Yellow Alfetta GTV 2000
1985 Red Alfetta GTV2.0
1989 White Alfa 164
2000 156

Citroënbender

I've seen plenty of small cars where - by the range of debris within - I would not be surprised if told the owner was living in them!  :P