Cheap Dailys??

Started by V AR 164, May 16, 2018, 03:21:10 PM

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bazzbazz

Quote from: Craig_m67 on June 07, 2018, 04:15:40 PM

159 (Spider & Brera) dervs, both 1.9 and 2.4 have all the EGR, swirlvalves and DPFs to cause issues (like most every other contemporary diesel).. it's not legal to remove or disable any of this.


Hmmm, Qld Transport may disagree with you on this.  ;)
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Craig_m67

Quote from: bazzbazz on June 07, 2018, 06:23:37 PM
Quote from: Craig_m67 on June 07, 2018, 04:15:40 PM

159 (Spider & Brera) dervs, both 1.9 and 2.4 have all the EGR, swirlvalves and DPFs to cause issues (like most every other contemporary diesel).. it's not legal to remove or disable any of this.


Hmmm, Qld Transport may disagree with you on this.  ;)

Really, so it is legal to remove this in Queensland?
(I'm surprised)
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bazzbazz

Doh, I misread what you said, I thought you said "it's not illegal", that will teach me for not wearing my glasses.  ::)
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Citroƫnbender

I'm curious as to whether anyone here has tried amateur reflashing on a 147/156/159.  I mean, as opposed to paying someone else to work black magic on the ECU firmware. 

Pseudonym

They come with DPF - it's an invention put in modern diesels to let the poms satisfy their love of klack klack engines while reducing smog to make their country look a tad less miserable.... they do work as advertised as long as each journey is sufficiently long enough to heat them to max temp.

EGR should be an exhaust recirculation back to inlet under certain engine loads to reduce the overall emissions, they've been around for ages and as said, they work as advertised in the unreal world, they all eventually foul with soot. I repaired an NX one once and regretted not taking the shops advice to merely weld it up out of sight [emoji28]

Just remember the stock fuel maps are designed with recirculated exhaust and filtered particulate in mind - you can get more power by gutting them but you'll need to remap. I wouldn't be too averse to trying a pre-made map chip and checking using the ecu scan tool, I mean the revo gear for the sootwagens is literally plug and turn the key, but building a custom map is a specialist skill, and I don't know if that many people outside of jap cars interested in that sort of work.

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poohbah

Anyone looking for advice on souping up their diesel should ask this recently joined member from the UK. His GT is an absolute monster masterpiece.

http://www.alfaclubvic.org.au/forum/index.php?topic=18139.0
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            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

kaleuclint

What happened to the thread "Cheap Dailys"??!! :o
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bazzbazz

It morphed into "Comfortable Diesel Daily". (all of a sudden the Beetle Bailey cartoon song came into my head)  ???
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Pseudonym

Yeah there's a guy over there running a 2.4 ti at 300 and something horses and 700 odd NM using hybrid turbo and water methanol injection. Stock auto box.

Sounds like a good daily to me, and I guess  it's cheap relative to a new Giulia... [emoji28]

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V AR 164

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Quote from: kaleuclint on June 09, 2018, 11:39:24 AM
What happened to the thread "Cheap Dailys"??!! :o

I'm not sure either hahaha, I guess diesels are cheap when it comes to economy so it essentially is a 'cheap daily'  ::)

Been almost a week now and I haven't even looked at the 164! I will take her out this weekend, but it's hard to beat such a comfortable car like the 159. Still very happy with my decision!

Andrew.
Present:
-1992 164Q
-1993 Hilux Surf

Past:
-2006 159 2.4 Ti

ugame

Quote from: V AR 164 on June 10, 2018, 12:46:21 AM
Quote from: kaleuclint on June 09, 2018, 11:39:24 AM
What happened to the thread "Cheap Dailys"??!! :o

I'm not sure either hahaha, I guess diesels are cheap when it comes to economy so it essentially is a 'cheap daily'  ::)

Been almost a week now and I haven't even looked at the 164! I will take her out this weekend, but it's hard to beat such a comfortable car like the 159. Still very happy with my decision!

Andrew.

It's funny because later this year I'll possibly be consolidating and getting a "cheap reliable daily that doesn't cost much to maintain".
My thinking always STARTS in the right way....
"Maybe a Toyota Camry..... or a Honda Accord....or an Audi A4 1.8T, or a Mercedes or BMW, or Perhaps a 159 1750TBi, or perhaps a 156 GTA...wait, how did I get here on car sales again?"
Past: 180SX | 300ZX Twin Turbo | 350Z HR Roadster | 300C 5.7 V8 HEMI | 98 GTV 2.0 TS
Present: 2002 GTV 2.0 TS | 147 TS | 74 Super Beetle | Porsche Cayman S 987.1
Future: I've stopped looking. Wife says "No more Alfas" lol.

Craig_m67

Cheapest Alfa daily would have to be a well bought, sorted 147 1.9JTD

The best (reliable/output) Diesel engine ever produced by any manufacturer in my opinion.
Can be chipped out the wingwang, in a chassis that everybody knows/loves

... and it has flat rear folding seats for the tip run 👍
'66 Duetto (lacework of doom)
'73 1600 GT Junior (ensconced)
'03 156 1.9JTD Sportwagon (daily driver)

ugame

Quote from: Craig_m67 on June 12, 2018, 06:24:27 PM
Cheapest Alfa daily would have to be a well bought, sorted 147 1.9JTD

The best (reliable/output) Diesel engine ever produced by any manufacturer in my opinion.
Can be chipped out the wingwang, in a chassis that everybody knows/loves

... and it has flat rear folding seats for the tip run 👍
Funny you say 147.

Even though mine is the TS, I think my cheap daily most viable option is.....to recommit to another 2 to 3 years of 147 ownership.

Swapping I to the type/age of car I'd like would cost me at least $10k.

Doing what needs to be done to the 147 inc timing belt again, will cost be around $2k.

Car just does all jobs well and mine presents well too bar a few external dings and scratches.

Alfa maths :D
Past: 180SX | 300ZX Twin Turbo | 350Z HR Roadster | 300C 5.7 V8 HEMI | 98 GTV 2.0 TS
Present: 2002 GTV 2.0 TS | 147 TS | 74 Super Beetle | Porsche Cayman S 987.1
Future: I've stopped looking. Wife says "No more Alfas" lol.

Pseudonym

Yes - cileberti has a manual 1.9 147 but it's too clean. You've got to be able to not stress about door dings and the like in a daily. The twin spark you usually can pick up for a steal and have a blast in.

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ugame

Quote from: Pseudonym on June 13, 2018, 02:40:25 PM
Yes - cileberti has a manual 1.9 147 but it's too clean. You've got to be able to not stress about door dings and the like in a daily. The twin spark you usually can pick up for a steal and have a blast in.

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You got that right.

A guy at worked scuffed one front/side very slightly with his old falcon while parking. He was very very apologetic. When I walked out to view the "damage" I just shook his hand and said "dont worry about it".

All he'd put was a slight black rub mark, which oddly enough, made it match a similar one on the other side :D
Past: 180SX | 300ZX Twin Turbo | 350Z HR Roadster | 300C 5.7 V8 HEMI | 98 GTV 2.0 TS
Present: 2002 GTV 2.0 TS | 147 TS | 74 Super Beetle | Porsche Cayman S 987.1
Future: I've stopped looking. Wife says "No more Alfas" lol.