Flammable Fuel Rails

Started by bazzbazz, September 24, 2017, 05:00:04 PM

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ACE

Thanks Bazz,

and thanks for raising this thread.
I'm sure that it was not my footsteps alone that you heard trotting out to the car a few days back. None of us would like to see our Busso combusting - aka comBussto?

aggie57

Quote from: Citroƫnbender on September 25, 2017, 04:07:40 PM
The brass infeed nipple coming loose, is well known on other makes. It's incinerated Citroƫn Dee models and Renaults of the same era. There were fixes offered for some carbs with a finely threaded replacement nipple sold in a kit with tap to suit.

Now you mention it, I recall a burning Fuego years ago on Dandenong Rd.  Fuel fire under the bonnet.
Alister
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Duk

Alfa Romeo really have no idea about plastics.
Absolutely piss pour that they used such unsuitable components in the fuel system.

Little wonder they have such a crap reputation.
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poohbah

Hey Bazz (or anyone), your connectors look significantly different to mine. Any insight as to why they are different (and which is better)?
Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

ACE

PB, what about year?
Yours is a '99 (and it looks to have metal fittings?)
Mine is an '04
I wonder what type was in your '01?

poohbah

I'm pretty sure the 01 had similar fittings
Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

philpot

#21
Jump onto Carsales, of the eight Busso's that come up, in 156's, only one appears to have metal fittings, a '99 model

nb:   just had another look. do any of the plastic connectors of the carsales busso's have the lock-rings?
1992 33 1.7 16v QV - white     1998 156 Twin Spark - white     1990 33 1.7 16v QV - silver     1985 33 1.5 QV - silver

Past:   '81 Alfasud ti      '76 Alfasud ti

poohbah

I can't find any old pics of the engine in m '01 to compare, so it may have had plastic rather than metal fittings.
Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

bazzbazz

Well I know metal are better, but also more expensive.

By the way, that's lovely clean engine bay you have there Pooh.   8)
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poohbah

#24
Thanks!

Have found some better pics of the connectors on my Busso - they certainly look neater than the plastic ones. Why would Alfa have switched to plastic?
Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

poohbah

I also found a pic of my first 156 with the bonnet up and can confirm it had plastic connectors. It was one of the very last original series 1 (ie with black mirrors) - manufactured Dec 2001. Google research shows the SZ 3L V6 (Il Mostro!!) had the same metal connectors, so I assume it was standard for the first generation of 24v V6 motors. I can only assume they switched because it represented some sort of improvement? But what?
Now:    2002 156 GTA
            1981 GTV
Before: 1999 156 V6 Q-auto
            2001 156 V6 (sadly cremated)

ACE

Quote from: poohbah on September 28, 2017, 11:05:45 PM
... it represented some sort of improvement? But what?

Maybe cost? Possibly in both manufacture and assembly?

btw: That metal kit looks good!

belitalia

Hi there,
New to the forum, I have been driving a 156 GTA Sportwagon manual for the past 10 years now.

Does anyone know where to source new connectors for the injection ramp?? I had a fuel smell for dyas and just realized I had a major leak from one of them.

Many thanks

bonno

Hi belitalia
Try either your local club sponsors or find link to Arese Spares home page.
https://www.aresespares.com.au/home