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Re: Project 164 - lets see how this goes
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2017, 12:47:16 PM »
My first thought when I saw those rims was that they had been pulled off a late 80s/early 90s Nissan Skyline.

I'd go hunting for some Speedlines (pepper pot style).
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Re: Project 164 - lets see how this goes
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2017, 01:33:39 PM »
My first thought when I saw those rims was that they had been pulled off a late 80s/early 90s Nissan Skyline.

I'd go hunting for some Speedlines (pepper pot style).
Yes not sure im a fan of the rims myself - low priority though

My strut man regassed my old bonnet struts on the spot - $30 a bargain. Just need to fit them now cross another job off the list.

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Re: Project 164 - lets see how this goes
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2017, 03:21:12 PM »
OK So here we go people.

What is this bracket from the 164 - i suspect "somewhere" associated with the power steering/rack, but would be good to know where.

Yes there is a prize :-)
I suspect it is a spacer for the mounting of power steering. The signs of power steering fluid seems evident on the surface. l had a look at various images of the power steering assembly for the 164 but nothing seems to be coming up. Your best bet is to establish location for were you found the item then go from there.
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Re: Project 164 - lets see how this goes
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2017, 03:43:26 PM »
could be this
spacer underneath the rack mount
i had it circled on other image, dont know what happened
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Re: Project 164 - lets see how this goes
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2017, 05:08:59 PM »
Anybody else having difficulty opening the last jpg file uploaded by FettaGTV. 
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Re: Project 164 - lets see how this goes
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2017, 07:42:40 PM »
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Re: Project 164 - lets see how this goes
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2017, 07:52:40 PM »
Thanks Fetta GTV
 Re-instated the circle around the part
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Re: Project 164 - lets see how this goes
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2017, 06:41:35 AM »
could be this
spacer underneath the rack mount
i had it circled on other image, dont know what happened
I think we have a winner yes Fetta GTV that spacer looks like it. Tells me the steering assembly is not all together. Hope to get the car up this weekend and make a start

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Re: Project 164 - lets see how this goes
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2017, 03:53:00 PM »
So had a bit of spare time.

Fitted the re gassed bonnet struts - working well, and fitted the new air intake tube.

Engine now seems to run smoother and less missing in the mid range.

It did however show up another issue - lots of rusty water coming out of the exhaust.

So this begs the question - exhaust systems for these machines.

What is the standard/recommendations/fixes.

The manifolds on the engine do appear very rusty on the outside. I have sort of a mental plan to pull the exhaust off and I suspect there may be a leak or two.

Do people run twin systems? Are there Headers that people use ??

I remember with one of my Alfa 33's I just took the car to an standard exhaust joint, he fitted what he thought would be o.k. and away it went. Very happy and not that expensive.

SO thoughts on exhaust systems people .

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Project 164 - lets see how this goes
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2017, 12:08:23 AM »
In short, there is very little aftermarket support for these cars, including a limited range of exhausts.

Pretty much all of the 164 crew run stock headers and cats. The only modification typically made is rear mufflers and maybe the reasonator.

The manifolds typically do not rust out and should still be in good nick. The main parts that rust is the rear muffler and resonator.

Honestly, I would go down the route of a custom exhaust made up from the cat back, and leave the front part stock.

I should also mention a great place for parts called Alfissimo International. They have a wide variety of new oem parts as well as aftermarket options too.
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Re: Project 164 - lets see how this goes
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2017, 10:02:29 AM »
Thanks Andrew.

I imagine with the cat side of things this is pretty much a must have for road legal, so will take you advice on the back part.

Lets see what I find when I have a look at it.

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Re: Project 164 - lets see how this goes
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2017, 12:33:48 PM »
so managed to get the car up on one side, other side need something to raise my jack.

@VeeSix - this plate in the boot that we need to get off for the fuel pipe fix - how is it attached to the car?? looks like is just selastic, or maybe a turn and it comes off - any tips.

Now for the picture attached.

I'm not an expert on power steering and only been working on cars as a hobby for 40 years but that just doesnt look right to me :-)

I'm sure that pipe should be connected to something.
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Re: Project 164 - lets see how this goes
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2017, 12:39:19 PM »
Found it :-)

it appears to be the main output from the pump - no wonder the power steering isnt working.

It all makes sense sometimes.

So strategy will be, connect it back on, clean area thoroughly, check for any other leaks.

IF so, out the power steering rack comes :-(

No looking forward to that.
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Re: Project 164 - lets see how this goes
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2017, 02:59:44 PM »
and more loose/disconnected power steering stuff.

So, has anyone removed the power steering rack and how tough is it. Any hints or tips :-)

Thanks

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70 White Berlina 1750 (my first)

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Re: Project 164 - lets see how this goes
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2017, 04:55:05 PM »
Is it one that has an integrated ram, or is the hydraulic assistance a separate cylinder "piggyback" mounted on the rack?

If it's integrated it'll be more readily extracted with most other stuff in situ. If you have to lower the subframe don't forget to make alignment marks, and check that all piping (steering and brakes) is released from clips on the subframe before lowering it.

PAS doesn't take kindly to even minute amounts of grit/dust, if you chance it the odds are against you. This especially applies to internal PTFE sealing bands inside the pinion and ram.