Which Alfa does this engine come from ?

Started by Rigi, July 09, 2017, 09:10:45 PM

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Rigi

Hi all ..... just wondering if anyone knows which Alfa had a 1.8 engine with SOLEX downdraft carby.
Current
2010 GT 3.2 100 year Anniversary
1977 Alfetta GTV - Grp s
1974 GTV105 Resto (wip)
1977 Alfetta GTV Normal Roadie on Historics

Past
1980 Alfetta sedan('prettyboy')
1986 Alfetta GTV6GP
1985 Alfetta GTV6
1984 Alfetta GTV
1980 Alfetta Sedan
1978 Alfetta Sed

Rigi

Current
2010 GT 3.2 100 year Anniversary
1977 Alfetta GTV - Grp s
1974 GTV105 Resto (wip)
1977 Alfetta GTV Normal Roadie on Historics

Past
1980 Alfetta sedan('prettyboy')
1986 Alfetta GTV6GP
1985 Alfetta GTV6
1984 Alfetta GTV
1980 Alfetta Sedan
1978 Alfetta Sed

GTV-074

Rigi,

Not sure that any 1.8's that came to Australia had a single down draft carby. I presumed all ours we dual side draft.

Some of the Giulia TI's etc. had a single carby but not any 1.8's that I can recall. That would put it in the "Alfetta" range of cars.

Any pics you can post? That may help with the identification. Is the sump a 105 sump (fan shaped front edge) or a more rectangular shape, as per 116 range?

My guess would be an import of some type (I am sure in the Alfa world there was a lower spec engine available).

Cheers,

Paul.
Speed costs money - how fast do you want to go?

aggie57

I've been racking my brain about this and I can't recall any 1.8 engines with a single downdraft. Maybe a commercial application overseas but I can't recall any car. 
Alister
14 Alfa's since 1977. 
Currently 1973 GTV 2000, 2020 911 C2S MT, 2021 Mercedes GLE350, 2023 Polestar 2 LRDM
Gone......far too many to list

Rigi

Thanks for the thoughts so far .... it has been wrapped in plastic for quite a while probably because it has no sump .... I'll post a photo when I pull it out of the bowels of the container and post the engine number also - cheers Richard
Current
2010 GT 3.2 100 year Anniversary
1977 Alfetta GTV - Grp s
1974 GTV105 Resto (wip)
1977 Alfetta GTV Normal Roadie on Historics

Past
1980 Alfetta sedan('prettyboy')
1986 Alfetta GTV6GP
1985 Alfetta GTV6
1984 Alfetta GTV
1980 Alfetta Sedan
1978 Alfetta Sed

GTV-074

Rigi,
Is the 1.8 written on the wrapping or something?

Just had a thought and it would make sense, could it be 1.3 ?

Is it clearly 1.8?

Cheers.
Speed costs money - how fast do you want to go?

Craig_m67

Alfa sud
Boxer(Flat four)

(Unlikely, but did come with a choice of carbs)
'66 Duetto (lacework of doom)
'73 1600 GT Junior (ensconced)
'03 156 1.9JTD Sportwagon (daily driver)

aggie57

Quote from: Craig_m67 on July 17, 2017, 11:23:32 PM
Alfa sud
Boxer(Flat four)

(Unlikely, but did come with a choice of carbs)

Very true. We're assuming Nord...
Alister
14 Alfa's since 1977. 
Currently 1973 GTV 2000, 2020 911 C2S MT, 2021 Mercedes GLE350, 2023 Polestar 2 LRDM
Gone......far too many to list

bonno

Hi Rigi
From what I can gather the 1300 Giulia in LHD only used the solex down draught carburettor.
Refer to the following wiki link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_Giulia
regards
bonno

GTV-074

Speed costs money - how fast do you want to go?

aggie57

Well of course all 101 series 1600 Normale's had a single downdraft carb and there's plenty of them still running around.  But they were 1570cc engines, not 1779cc.
Alister
14 Alfa's since 1977. 
Currently 1973 GTV 2000, 2020 911 C2S MT, 2021 Mercedes GLE350, 2023 Polestar 2 LRDM
Gone......far too many to list

Rigi

Well the answer is ..... we have verified from the engine number that the engine came from a 1750 and therefore someone with a 1300 /1600 decided that they wanted an 'original look' by fitting the Solex to it .... go figure ...  looks over gagging the performance of the 1750 engine  :(
Current
2010 GT 3.2 100 year Anniversary
1977 Alfetta GTV - Grp s
1974 GTV105 Resto (wip)
1977 Alfetta GTV Normal Roadie on Historics

Past
1980 Alfetta sedan('prettyboy')
1986 Alfetta GTV6GP
1985 Alfetta GTV6
1984 Alfetta GTV
1980 Alfetta Sedan
1978 Alfetta Sed

carlo rossi

sounds to me like a US motor they quite a few of those for pollution reasons
current cars
red 83 gtv 2.0


previous cars
Red 76 1.2/1.5 alfasud ti
white 79 alfetta 2000
alfetta 74 1.8
escort Lotus twin cam
bikes
ducati 900 ss 1979
moto morini 3 1/2 sport 1975/6
Moto morini 3 1/2 valentini speciale 77 oh and a deltek rockhopper

aggie57

Quote from: carlo rossi on August 28, 2017, 05:56:50 PM
sounds to me like a US motor they quite a few of those for pollution reasons

No, US cars have SPICA injection.

Interesting choice made by the previous owner! 
Alister
14 Alfa's since 1977. 
Currently 1973 GTV 2000, 2020 911 C2S MT, 2021 Mercedes GLE350, 2023 Polestar 2 LRDM
Gone......far too many to list

carlo rossi

no prior to 1972 they had double barrell carb and normal exhaust ie no headers

According to my parts book,this carburetor was used on spider engines up to 1315.45854,but doesn't give an engine number(spider normale) for when Alfa began using the Solex C35 APAI-G on spiders.Again,according to this parts book(11/61)the smaller carburetors,Solex C.32 BI,C.32 BIC,C.32 PBIC,and 32 PAIAT were used on Berlinas',T.I.s',and sprints.BUT,over forty years ago I had a 56' spider that had a one-piece cast iron exhaust manifold,and "I think" a small carburetor,but I'm not sure.I hope someone chimes in.
taken from alfabb
current cars
red 83 gtv 2.0


previous cars
Red 76 1.2/1.5 alfasud ti
white 79 alfetta 2000
alfetta 74 1.8
escort Lotus twin cam
bikes
ducati 900 ss 1979
moto morini 3 1/2 sport 1975/6
Moto morini 3 1/2 valentini speciale 77 oh and a deltek rockhopper