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marktim

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Clutch replacement
« on: February 16, 2016, 10:41:49 PM »
I know this has probably been asked a few times but I need to have a look at replacing the thrust bearing in my 1982gtv and would probably do the clutch and pressure plate at the same time, I've been quoted just on $1000 to do this ,I would like to do it myself as I'm a reasonable backyard mech,would anyone recommend me doing it myself or is it better left to the alfa  guys who quoted me,thanks for any help, cheers.

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Re: Clutch replacement
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2016, 12:29:06 AM »
Well, since in your other post you were talking about bleeding the clutch to cure a noise in the thrust bearing, I would say you have very little mechanical knowledge.

But I don't know you, I can only go off what I've read in your posts, and what I've read suggests to me you aren't qualified to tackle this particular job.

So, based on the information I have about you,  I would suggest take it to your mechanic.

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Re: Clutch replacement
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2016, 12:56:10 AM »


It's not complicated.

Nothing in these cars is complicated if you have some confidence, instruction, tools, space and time ie. Can you have it up on stands (hoist better) for a few weekends while you leisulry tackle the job and all the bastard bolts and bits that should be easy to undo and remove...but aren't and break and stress you and your loved ones out.

If you have the time and want to learn how to work on your own car there's no better way to do it than to research the method and dive in.

That said, I've never done a transaxle car.. I bet they're a pig :)
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Re: Clutch replacement
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2016, 04:27:31 PM »
How can you give advice about something you've never done?

There are a few tricks to this particular job. Also a certain order and some special tools required.

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Re: Clutch replacement
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2016, 09:57:22 PM »
I  have rebuilt  Ford and Holden engines and gear boxes in the past and regard my mechanical abilities as satisfactory but have never worked on a transaxle vehicle before that is why I asked about the clutch replacement in regards to the difficulty involved,the reason I asked about bleeding the clutch was not as a way to  fix a thrust bearing on it's way out but read that  being a hydraulic system that the first thing to check was the fluid and cylinder to make sure there was no leaks.I have every confidence in my abilities to do most jobs on this car and welcome advice when genuinely offered and don't need opinions on my mechanical ability, Thanks Mick a for your opinion at least you were positive and not sarcastic,cheers.

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Re: Clutch replacement
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2016, 11:00:25 PM »
No worries Mark. Glad you took it the right way.
If you want, send me a PM and I'll give you a run down of what to do.
I am a qualified mechanic and have done this job many, many, many times.

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Re: Clutch replacement
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2016, 08:04:30 AM »
HI Marktim

Did you get it sorted out interested in knowing what the noise turned out to be and how much wear was on the clutch and pressure plate
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Re: Clutch replacement
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2016, 11:10:26 PM »
I was all set to have the clutch replaced along with the thrust bearing when I discovered termites in the floor boards of my house, the interesting or weird thing was it cost me about the same to clean up the floor boards and have the house treated as the quote to get the car done so I'm saving my pennies and hopefully will give Sofia a new clutch and thrust bearing soon.

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Re: Clutch replacement
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2016, 07:44:16 PM »
I understand about termites they ate out my bathroom and laundry yrs ago
With your car hopefully its only a thrust race you might not need a full clutch replacement. If the car is not going and you have the space you might be able to replace the clutch parts yourself. A mechanic will recommend a clutch rebuild because of the labor costs. If you do your own labor you only pay for the parts you need.  You could assess the worn parts and see what you need and go from there, save some money by not giving it to a mechanic and have the sense of achievement in doing it yourself and you get your car going sooner. You said you have rebuilt engines before if you have the skills to do that you can do an Alfetta clutch
Any way I don't know your schedule or what family commitments you have I hope you get your car going again soon
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Re: Clutch replacement
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2016, 08:36:03 PM »
Thanks for that, It's a shock when you first see the little buggers but it's all done and dusted now, thank god, yeah it's a job I'm tempted to do myself, at my age I'll just have to have a good supply of anti inflammation pills to keep me going 😊. Anyway I hope your Alfa is going well, cheers.

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Re: Clutch replacement
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2016, 09:12:31 PM »
Yes I also understand the anti inflammatory reference years of playing contact sport and dirt bike riding is taking it's toll and working under the car is getting more difficult each year. I'm rebuilding a 3lt at the moment rings and bearings and just lapped in the valves and put new valve stem oil seals in the  heads it will be good to get it in the car

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Re: Clutch replacement
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2016, 09:15:42 PM »
Well I've bitten the bullet and booked the old girl in for a clutch replacement next Monday i can't stand to have her sitting in the garage and not being able to drive her. I got several quotes and most where around the same price but only one mentioned about machining the flywheel and even said if they didn't they wouldn't warranty the job which is fair enough, I've decided to go with the local alfa guys but I'm waiting to hear back from them about if they are going to machine the flywheel and if not I'll go elsewhere, can't wait to get her done and back on the road.

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Re: Clutch replacement
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2016, 09:26:32 PM »
I'm sure all the workshops will have the flywheel machined. It's very inexpensive and we always do it as a matter of course.

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Re: Clutch replacement
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2016, 10:31:54 PM »
That's the funny thing Mick l quizzed them about machining  the flywheel and they said that they normally don't on the 116 series in case it goes out of balance.
Now I've replaced clutches on older Ford and Holdens and as a matter of procedure always had the disc machined, as I'm new to the 116 alfas do they normally machine them or do they as the mechanic says go out of balance easily, cheers.

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Re: Clutch replacement
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2016, 03:10:56 AM »
Actually my mistake sorry. I thought for a minute this was a 156. My apologies.
Flywheel doesn't have to be machined unless you want to lighten it.