Tyres for 159TI 19"

[Australia]

Pirelli is now Chinese owned.

I'd go for the Contis for the 4 for 3 offer.  I have the R18s on mine - good grip.

Pirelli P Zero came 4th in the Motor tyre test this month.

[kaleuclint]

Today it is raining in Melbourne.  I can tell you the wet weather grip of the Eagle F1s is phenomenal.  I find I am uncharacteristically driving my 159 much harder with the new rubber (because I can) and the rain makes no difference.  Very different to the PZero Neros.

[blueblood1995]

Today it is raining in Melbourne.  I can tell you the wet weather grip of the Eagle F1s is phenomenal.  I find I am uncharacteristically driving my 159 much harder with the new rubber (because I can) and the rain makes no difference.  Very different to the PZero Neros.

Had the new 245/40 19 Conti Sport Contact 6s fitted at JAX Tyres, Preston this afternoon.
Of course a quieter and more compliant ride was immediately noticeable and after a quick sprint on the Eastern Fwy in the rain I could tell the Contis were more sure footed than the Pirellis ever wear. Unsure why? Perhaps more recent technology, a different groove pattern, the Conti reputation for wet weather performance, a different rubber compound or all of the above?

$885 for x4 incl. fitting.

What I'm most interested in now is how well these will wear in comparison to the Pirellis.

Stay tuned! I'll be back in a year or two!

[kaleuclint]

$885 for x4 incl. fitting.

That is within $4 of what I paid!  I just can't understand people shelling out $1300> on a set of rubber when with some shopping around there are the highest quality tyres to be found at very reasonable prices.  Problem is that the websites that are supposed to deliver that service come up with the $1300> options.

eBay can be even cheaper of course (and delivery always next day freighted overnight Sydney-Melbourne from my experience).  There is of course the obligatory whinge from the tyre fitter, but the problem is that he quotes too high as well, and he doesn't have the time to scour eBay for bargains.

[Colin Edwards]

There was a blue 159 on display at the Lygon Street Festival yesterday - is the owner out there?. 
Car was fitted with 19" wheels and 245/35 tyres.
I didn't get a chance to chat with owner.
No dramas fitting these tyres to standard(?) 19" wheels?
Are the wheels fitted to this car the "standard" 159 Ti 19" width.
I'm investigating the possibility of fitting 245/35 tyres on my 159 Ti in lieu of the standard 235/40.

Regards,
Colin

[kaleuclint]

There are better tyres around than the PZero Nero.  The Michelin PSS is clearly a superior tyre performance wise (possibly outperforming the car...).  It's also priced at a premium generally and anecdotally wears faster.  My compromise was to consider PS3s (so nearly bought these).  I've had Continental CSC3 and CSC5 on other cars -- the former were often fitted new to the Ti and my experiences with both have been excellent. 

Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 is another OEM choice for the Ti.  I can't recommend them highly enough.  I was offered 245/35 but the sidewalls are narrow enough already for mine. 

As for the 245/40 fitment, as per this thread there is no reason not to fit them.  I think I actually prefer them! 

Now -- as it happens I did happen to put a dent in my rear wheelarch and the metal DID foul on the sidewall (just).  Possibly would have happened with 235s anyway...  I reached under and pulled it out.  No issue.  And now fixed!!

I'll post a photo so you can make up your own mind about the aesthetic.  Remember we are talking 10mm of tread and about 3mm of additional diameter. 


[EDIT: Photobucket is playing up so PM me your email Colin and I can send you more.  The tyre does not extend beyond the metal.]

After much research I'm very happy with my 245s and I wouldn't pay any extra for 235s.

[Domenic]

Bought a set of Conti CSC3 in the correct 235/40/19 96Y a few weeks ago for my wife's Ti $320ea, which i thought was pretty decent and correct for the car.

[Colin Edwards]

PM sent

[kaleuclint]

Reviving an old topic, but once again I have been the recipient of some superb service from one of "the cousins" in Sydney. 

This time it's Tempe Tyres who delivered new widepack rear rubber for my Benz to Melbourne within 24 hours of order.  Conti Premium Contact 6 in Y-rating for $209 each.  Made in France during April.   Buying via eBay rather than their website meant free delivery too. 

Didn't know that CSC5 had been superseded.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Continental/Premium-Contact-6.htm

They don't have these to fit the 159 ti at present, and my Eagle F1s will be probably be good for another six years.  When the time comes though I know where to look.

[Australia]

 

[kaleuclint]

Interesting that when I purchased my Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2s there was some prior correspondence regarding the (very important to me) origin of the tyres.  As with most things automotive, "GERMANY" is the correct answer!

Goodyear in Croydon seems to have remembered our exchange in promoting 245/40/19 98Y rubber in Asymmetric 3:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Goodyear-245-40R19-98Y-XL-F1-Asymmetric-3-GERMANY-245-40-19-FREE-FITTING/172385222745?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D46669%26meid%3Da6582cf5d031403ab06c9890e0fbb90a%26pid%3D100678%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D9%26sd%3D182748978868&_trksid=p2481888.c100678.m3607&_trkparms=pageci%253Ac1599564-9469-11e7-9f0f-74dbd1806f8a%257Cparentrq%253A6073dc4815e0a860e6de6739fffeb5f0%257Ciid%253A1

[Winno]

FWIW, I had similar issues finding 235/40/19 in correct speed rating that were sensibly priced.
I fitted some 245/40/19 - Hankook Ventus S1 EVO2. These cost me $880 fitted, balanced and aligned to my spec from my local Euro mechanic. They were very highly recommended by the VW/Audi chaps who did my stage 1 tune.
They are very quiet (in fact, about the quietest tyre I have ever used), grip very well in dry and wet, and wear very well indeed.

I had considered Pirelli again but my friend runs some on his car and he got just over 20k km on them before he had to replace them. He did say they grip better than the Hankooks but, they are noisier and much softer.

[blueblood1995]

Now in the market for a set of 4 for my 2010 JTD Ti.
Replacing the OEM Pirelli Zero Nero GTs after just 40k.
Inside front wear no issue after having the alignment sorted. Great even wear across width.

Research so far...
Recommendation from several tyre dealers in 235/40 has been the Michelin Pilot Super Sport.
Class leading grip in dry and excellent wet weather traction.
Wear is outstanding for a performance tyre.
Good reviews on www.tyrereview.co.uk.
$390 per tyre best I can find.

Conti Sport Contact 3s @ $405 (although they have a 4 for 3 offer at the mo)

Bridgestone S001s @ $445 (the family wagon, 2006 Subaru Liberty 3.0, always clad in Bridgestone Potenza's due to great wear @ typically 60k to 70k but price is offputting)

Pirelli P Zero Nero GTs @ $385 (out of stock nationwide, Pirelli not expecting stock for at least another 3 months ALSO better tyres available for money )

Pirelli P7 Cinturatos @ $320

This sounds silly but it didn't feel right putting anything but Italian rubber on my beloved but having researched there are clearly better value-for-money tyres available and so it makes sense to find an alternative from the OEM... (or NOT depending on who you talk too?)

First question based purely on appearance (since the 159 is a thing of beauty not to be ruined by a terrible set of "shoes"!)
How do the 245/40s look on the rim in terms of height and width?
Assuming increased sidewall is not noticeable (4mm increase ??) BUT what about the width? Is the line from tyre to rim still "clean"?

Second question... what about the speedo?

I've always been a bit of stickler for running correct sizes. Hoping others can allay any fears.

Thanks to all in advance!

Conti Sport Contact 6s replaced just the other day after only 26k. Won't be purchasing Contis again but as I've been told by some Contis are generally softer and designed for "better " European roads.
Replaced with the Pirelli Dragon Sport still in a 245/40 R19. $250 per tyre from Bridgestone.
Will be interesting to see how these "designed for Asia/Australia market" tyres hold up.
Regards

[kaleuclint]

I used to be an "Alfa must have Pirellis" adherent.  Just doesn't make sense following experiences with PZero Nero and Rosso.  Glad to see the end of Selenia too, just quietly.

For me it'll always be Michelin / Continental / Pirelli / Goodyear (+ Metzeler for two-wheelers) though.  Next week I'll get around to having my CPC6s fitted to the wagon.

[torquemeister]

I fitted Michelin PS4s (correct size 235/40/19") here in Australia and find them rather noisy. So when I had to replace my Michelin PSS on my Brera in Singapore I fitted the new Pirelli P Zero 4s (also correct size - I paid the premium as the 245/40s look waaay too big in those arches even though Ive had them in the past).

Ive read road tests that the PZ4s are line ball with the PS4s in wet and dry but the big difference is that Pirelli worked on road noise and the results are amazing (apparently dB lower by 3 db). So in summary I prefer the PZ4 over the PS4 based on noise. Both have excellent road holding (wet roadholding is critical in Sodden Singapore).

Cheers
Simon